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[jazzguitar] Re: Cort Larry Coryell Archtop

 

Yes

The Cort is a great guitar for the money

Bob Pilcher


[jazzguitar] Software for transcribing music

Andy Robinson
 

I've seen some discussion here about software to help transcribing
recorded music but no mention yet of Transcribe! which I think you
should try (OK I'm biased!).

Features include :
- Place markers on sections, measures & beats so you always know where
you are.
- Slow down the music without pitch change.
- Chord analysis. Select any chord or note and Transcribe! analyses the
frequencies present, and displays them as a wavy line above a piano-
keyboard graphic. Peaks in the line identify the notes being played, and
their harmonics.

Transcribe! can be downloaded from :
www.seventhstring.demon.co.uk/xscribe/
It's shareware - 30 days free evaluation then $30 registration.

Currently for Windows 95/98/NT only but the Macintosh version is under
development for release towards the end of this year.

Feedback is welcome - let me know what you think.

Andy Robinson, Seventh String Software


[jazzguitar] Re: Music Software

RoboSens Enquiries
 

Check out our guitarmaster product. You can download a free demo of this
from our web page:

This works for stuff you play in directly into your PC from your guitar
via a pickup & sound card input. We are currently working on a new
version that will do imported WAV files, due out next year...
Jon Aylett


DsChordFinder v3.0
Find out guitar chords, solos, leads and riffs in recorded music.
DsChordFinder uses frequency analysis on the recorded music


Reed Kotler's Transcribing devices and Software


Musician's Ear - Chord Transcriber
"A software application which can identify the chords played in
virtually any piece of recorded music. You play an ordinary tape or CD
on your stereo system or CD-ROM drive, and Chord Transcriber names the
chords that are played by the recorded instruments"


Has anyone used these pieces of software ? Any thoughts ?

I checked out the Musician's Ear -- Chord Transcriber trial version and I
wasn't too impressed. I think it would work well with pop tunes and
perhaps folk ballads (anything slow to medium tempo tune with "basic"
chords), but I suspect that an up-tempo Wes tune will be frustrating for
the user. The user has to click a button EVERY time a chord change occurs.
Yuk!

As far as Reed Kotler's things go, I've heard good things about TR-400
(either here or from jazzguitar@...), but I haven't been too
thrilled about the Transcriber music study software. It doesn't seem very
intuitive to me, but then again I'm one of those people who hates to read
owner's manuals and tutorials. :-P

Like Alisdair, I would also be interested in anyone's opinion of DSChord
Finder 3.0, however, as there is no trial version available.

--brent

Brent D. Stuntzner Construction
7931 SW 40th Ave., #D
Portland, OR 97219-3598

Stuntzner@...

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Life without industry is guilt, industry without art is brutality.
John Ruskin (1819 1900), Lectures on Art, III,
The Relation of Art to Morals,[1870]

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[jazzguitar] Re: jazzguitar digest

Lan Mosher
 

Hi Rob,

If you like it, go for it. I've had several Heritages and found them to be
good guitars. essentially you are getting a Super 400C at about half price
or less. In my opinion, the Super Eagle is more comfortable to play as it
is 3/8" thinner. Your's must be a special order because they normally have
two set pickups. I have several friends with such custom made guitars and
they are great. Have you been able to play it? If not get it on 48 hr
approval and you'll be protected incase you don't love it.

lan
Lan Mosher, Center for Effective Organizations, CEO
6201 15th Ave. NW, PMB 559 Seattle WA 98107 [206]-297-3070
www.halcyon.com/ceolan

Also: at [206] 784-9117: "Have Guitar, Will Travel", Emerald City Jazz
Quintet; Guitar Times Two Trio, Seattle Jazz Guitar Society


[jazzguitar] Re: jazzguitar digest

Rob Clark
 

Hi List,

I'm very seriously considering purchasing a 4 year old used
Heritage Super Eagle for about $2900. The dealer is a
reputable Heritage dealer and has this one on consignment.
It has a single floating pickup with volume and tone control
on the pick guard. It's a large instrument (!8" rather than
the usual 17"), but has a huge acoustic tone. The only
defect that I've found is one very minor ding on the front.
Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. This is
the first time that I've seriously considered getting a
really expensive guitar (and an archtop at that).

Rob


[jazzguitar] Re: Kenny Burrell

 

That is happening to me, too - and it takes me about an hour each day to
clear my message box.
Help!!
John Pearse.


[jazzguitar] re. Gibson Pat Martino guitar

 

Has anybody purchased a Pat Martino recently? I'd like to get opinions
as to sound and playability. Jim


[jazzguitar] Re: a greeting and a question

 

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Clay Moore wrote:

The current version of Musician's CD Player has a 30 day trial period,
after which the slow down feature becomes disabled. So, free isn't an
option, and shouldn't be. It's the best program of this type I've used,
and more than worth the $35 or $40 he's asking.
Yea, i'm a registered user, it's definatly worth it.

dave


[jazzguitar] Re: a greeting and a question

 

dsevans@... wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 abterrell@... wrote:

So here's my first question: As far as transcribing solos, what are
your views on hardware/software that slows down the music without
changing the pitch? Do you think it is a valuable tool to use, or more
of a crutch? I've been experimenting with a program called Slow Gold,
hi, dave evans here,

i use a program called the musicians cd player, it's shareware
available at home1.swipnet.se/~w-11396/ from Roni Music.
it works great, is free or cheap, depending on your morals.
i think its an excellent tool, not a crutch. charlie parker
(i read) used to slow down his records.
Hi Dave,

The current version of Musician's CD Player has a 30 day trial period,
after which the slow down feature becomes disabled. So, free isn't an
option, and shouldn't be. It's the best program of this type I've used,
and more than worth the $35 or $40 he's asking.

As far as slowing down being a crutch or not, I agree with you. Before
records pianists used to slow down player piano rolls to learn the
fingerings to songs, and slowing down records started as soon as they
were invented. I used to slow albums down from 33 1/3 to 16 rpm, or put
them on reel-to-reel and dropped it to 1/2 speed. Later I used a Marantz
cassette player that had the 1/2 speed feature. It's a time-tested
tradition for transcribing. I would venture to say that the most
meticulous transcribers slow down music. Lest anyone think that's
cheating I've found that most commercial transcriptions - and I include
the Omnibook in this group - contain mistakes, and I think accuracy is
important.

--
Clay Moore --
jazz guitarist web developer
clay@... claymoore@...


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[jazzguitar] Re: a greeting and a question

RoboSens Enquiries
 

Could you send me a section of this in 16bit Mono Wav format ?
We are working on a new version of our guitarmaster product that is
aimed at transcribing riffs, and it would be interesting to see if it
could transcribe it..
You can also try our current demo at:
- tho this is currently focussed on
guitar chord transcription...
Jon

In message <7u3vst$ue63@...>, abterrell@... writes

Thanks for the swift responses. I was thinking along the same lines as
the rest of you, but I just needed to hear that I wasn't cheating
myself.

I've been working on a solo from a tune called "Have You Heard", from
Metheny's disk "Letter From Home". For years I have been wanting to
learn that solo, but it was just too fast to hear, much less play. With
this Slow Gold software, I've been able to figure it out (well only 25%
so far), and the insight I've been gaining into his creative process
has been wonderful. The man can really play! I've also found that Slow
Gold helps me get over the technical hurdles in the solo (Pat Metheny
plays quickly, melodically, and flawlessly) by allowing me to speed it
1 or 2% at a time. I can play along without trying to overstep my
technical limitations (of which I have many).

Thanks again for the advice, and keep picking'!

Adam


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[jazzguitar] Re: Music Software

Brent Stuntzner
 


DsChordFinder v3.0
Find out guitar chords, solos, leads and riffs in recorded music.
DsChordFinder uses frequency analysis on the recorded music


Reed Kotler's Transcribing devices and Software


Musician's Ear - Chord Transcriber
"A software application which can identify the chords played in
virtually any piece of recorded music. You play an ordinary tape or CD
on your stereo system or CD-ROM drive, and Chord Transcriber names the
chords that are played by the recorded instruments"


Has anyone used these pieces of software ? Any thoughts ?

I checked out the Musician's Ear -- Chord Transcriber trial version and I
wasn't too impressed. I think it would work well with pop tunes and
perhaps folk ballads (anything slow to medium tempo tune with "basic"
chords), but I suspect that an up-tempo Wes tune will be frustrating for
the user. The user has to click a button EVERY time a chord change occurs.
Yuk!

As far as Reed Kotler's things go, I've heard good things about TR-400
(either here or from jazzguitar@...), but I haven't been too
thrilled about the Transcriber music study software. It doesn't seem very
intuitive to me, but then again I'm one of those people who hates to read
owner's manuals and tutorials. :-P

Like Alisdair, I would also be interested in anyone's opinion of DSChord
Finder 3.0, however, as there is no trial version available.

--brent

Brent D. Stuntzner Construction
7931 SW 40th Ave., #D
Portland, OR? 97219-3598

Stuntzner@...

_______________
Life without industry is guilt, industry without art is brutality.
John Ruskin (1819 ¨C 1900), Lectures on Art, III,
The Relation of Art to Morals,[1870]


[jazzguitar] Re: a greeting and a question

RoboSens Enquiries
 

Yes - we have tried 'em, but despite the risk of sounding big headed,
you should try out our guitarmaster product, as its way better than
anything else available - just plug in your guitar and play, and it
writes down the music by tab, stave and chord name...

Download the free demo, and give it a shot !
Jon Aylett

In message <7u4iuf$81no@...>, alisdair@... writes

DsChordFinder v3.0
Find out guitar chords, solos, leads and riffs in recorded music.
DsChordFinder uses frequency analysis on the recorded music


Reed Kotler's Transcribing devices and Software


Musician's Ear - Chord Transcriber
"A software application which can identify the chords played in
virtually any piece of recorded music. You play an ordinary tape or CD
on your stereo system or CD-ROM drive, and Chord Transcriber names the
chords that are played by the recorded instruments"


Has anyone used these pieces of software ? Any thoughts ?

Alisdair MacRae Birch
Jazz Guitarist
Email: alisdair@...
Web:
Join The Jazz Guitar Discussion List:



abterrel-@... wrote:
original article:
Hi folks. I'm really excited to be a part of your group. I think it's
great to be able to get insight and info from so many different people
and perspectives.

So here's my first question: As far as transcribing solos, what are
your views on hardware/software that slows down the music without
changing the pitch? Do you think it is a valuable tool to use, or more
of a crutch? I've been experimenting with a program called Slow Gold,
and I'm trying to decide if I'm gaining maximum benefit, or if these
programs tend to take away from the potential learning experience. I'd
be psyched to hear your thoughts.

Thanks in adavance

Adam

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[jazzguitar] Re: a greeting and a question

 

DsChordFinder v3.0
Find out guitar chords, solos, leads and riffs in recorded music.
DsChordFinder uses frequency analysis on the recorded music


Reed Kotler's Transcribing devices and Software


Musician's Ear - Chord Transcriber
"A software application which can identify the chords played in
virtually any piece of recorded music. You play an ordinary tape or CD
on your stereo system or CD-ROM drive, and Chord Transcriber names the
chords that are played by the recorded instruments"


Has anyone used these pieces of software ? Any thoughts ?

Alisdair MacRae Birch
Jazz Guitarist
Email: alisdair@...
Web:
Join The Jazz Guitar Discussion List:



abterrel-@... wrote:
original article:

Hi folks. I'm really excited to be a part of your group. I think it's
great to be able to get insight and info from so many different people
and perspectives.

So here's my first question: As far as transcribing solos, what are
your views on hardware/software that slows down the music without
changing the pitch? Do you think it is a valuable tool to use, or more
of a crutch? I've been experimenting with a program called Slow Gold,
and I'm trying to decide if I'm gaining maximum benefit, or if these
programs tend to take away from the potential learning experience. I'd
be psyched to hear your thoughts.

Thanks in adavance

Adam


[jazzguitar] Re: a greeting and a question

 

Thanks for the swift responses. I was thinking along the same lines as
the rest of you, but I just needed to hear that I wasn't cheating
myself.

I've been working on a solo from a tune called "Have You Heard", from
Metheny's disk "Letter From Home". For years I have been wanting to
learn that solo, but it was just too fast to hear, much less play. With
this Slow Gold software, I've been able to figure it out (well only 25%
so far), and the insight I've been gaining into his creative process
has been wonderful. The man can really play! I've also found that Slow
Gold helps me get over the technical hurdles in the solo (Pat Metheny
plays quickly, melodically, and flawlessly) by allowing me to speed it
1 or 2% at a time. I can play along without trying to overstep my
technical limitations (of which I have many).

Thanks again for the advice, and keep picking'!

Adam


[jazzguitar] Re: Kenny Burrell

Brent Stuntzner
 

I heard he's a professor of ethnomusicology too
Yeah... I ended up over at the UCLA site and was surprised to see him
listed in that department. There's a decent bio and stuff over there, if
anyone is interested.

--brent

Brent D. Stuntzner Construction
7931 SW 40th Ave., #D
Portland, OR? 97219-3598

Stuntzner@...

_______________
Life without industry is guilt, industry without art is brutality.
John Ruskin (1819 ¨C 1900), Lectures on Art, III,
The Relation of Art to Morals,[1870]


[jazzguitar] Re: a greeting and a question

Joe Novack
 

i use a program called the musicians cd player, it's shareware
available at home1.swipnet.se/~w-11396/ from Roni Music.
it works great, is free or cheap, depending on your morals.
i think its an excellent tool, not a crutch.
Adam,
Welcome to the list!
I also use this software and am very happy with it.
If a tool like this is a crutch, then charts and sheet music would be a full
body cast!
Like any teaching aid, what YOU do with the newly gained knowledge is what
is important.
Let's say you learn an 8 note phrase over a "C" chord.
Do the notes fall within a scale pattern that you are familiar with?
Does the phrase sound better on one string or more?
Do the notes fall under your fingers better at the third or seventh fret?
How many positions on the fretboard can you readily play the phrase?
Can you use the phrase, or a close variation, in one of your solos?
Ad naseum......

As an aside, one of the first things I studied using the software was the
acoustic version of "Hotel California".
(There, I said it! I'm a soft-rock junkie!) ;o)
There was one phrase that I could not get to sound properly though I was
sure I had the right notes.
Turns out that there were two of the same notes played in succession.
One was acheived with a small slde up to the note, one with a slide down to
the same note.
I would have never heard this nuance without the software!

All the best!
Peace,
Joe Novack


[jazzguitar] Re: Kenny Burrell

 

he is the head teacher of the jazz program at UCLA, he just did a big duke
ellington celebration with Ray Brown, Herbie hancock and a bunch more for
dukes 100th b-day (if he was alive obviously). It was an impressive concert.
I'm not sure if theyre still focusing on ellington now that thats over
though.
curtiss


[jazzguitar] Re: Kenny Burrell

Harry Avant
 

At 04:12 PM 10/13/99 -0700, you wrote:
Hi all!

Anyone know where Kenny Burrell teaches? The last I heard he had a
position teaching the music of Ellington somewhere. CA, perhaps?

--brent

Brent D. Stuntzner Construction
7931 SW 40th Ave., #D
Portland, OR? 97219-3598

He is the head of the jazz department at the Univ. of California at Los
Angeles.

Harry


[jazzguitar] Kenny Burrell

Brent Stuntzner
 

Hi all!

Anyone know where Kenny Burrell teaches? The last I heard he had a
position teaching the music of Ellington somewhere. CA, perhaps?

--brent

Brent D. Stuntzner Construction
7931 SW 40th Ave., #D
Portland, OR? 97219-3598

Stuntzner@...

_______________
Life without industry is guilt, industry without art is brutality.
John Ruskin (1819 ¨C 1900), Lectures on Art, III,
The Relation of Art to Morals,[1870]


[jazzguitar] Re: Kenny Burrell

 

I heard he's a professor of ethnomusicology too