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Some of you might commensurate with me on this one. I played a 4 hour
solo guitar gig last night (playing fingerstyle) with only a 15 minute
break and no more than a few seconds between tunes. Almost all
chord/melody/bass style with a minimum of single lines.
Still, that is a lot of guitar playing!
Peace,
Scott

Finger Style has so many advantages over plectrum .... no argument
at all. In
fact, after a year and a half on finger style I am beginning to hear
voicings
and harmonies that the plectrum method brushes over instead out
"picking" out
....
John Amato
Isaiah 55:11

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Hi John (and all), When playing fingerstyle, Do you have long nails,
short nails or no nails. Or, are you mainly making contact with the
string with nail, fingertip and nail or just fingertip?
My index finger's nail doesn't hold up and so that one is short and the
other 3 are longer. The longest being my little finger, which compensates
for it's relatively weaker strength.
My thumb has a bit of nail, but not enough to actually use it as a pick.
(Like Martin Taylor)
Tuck Andress uses fingertip only and I have considered that to even out
the sound. I do like the clarity of nails though.
Thanks,
Scott

About a year and a half ago I finally bit the bullet and have
dedicated 50% of
practice time to finger style playing. I still use the pick but only
about half
the time.
....
John Amato

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Occasionally, that happens to me, but I realize I've goofed, & put it back
the "right" way. I don't like the way using the rounded side of the pick
feels.

Another question: for those who alternate bet'n pick & fingers, do you:

a. Put the pick in your mouth when you switch to fingers (I used to do
this)

b. Hold the pick bet'n the knuckles of your 1st & 2nd rt-hand fingers (I
do this now, it happened all by itself)

c. Do something else

Cheers,
JV

Juan Vega

John,

???I agree ... to certain extent. When I started playing guitar as a teenager?about 35 years ago, I took lessons from an excellent local guitarist who was a Classical Guitar major at the University of Akron and also played in their Jazz band,?which was quite fortunate for me?since I liked Wes Montgomery just as much as J.S. Bach. A few years later, I?entered the University of Akron as?a Classical Guitar major as well (also taking some Jazz Improvisation classes) , and I've always played both fingerstyle and with a pick, although I've never?wanted to try to combine them together. I play either fingerstyle or using a pick, de pending upon the style of music. I play a ton of different solo pieces fingerstyle (Classical, Ragtime, Blues, etc.) , and I also play a lot of solo pieces with a pick. T here are some things that I play with a pick that would actually be much easier to play fingerstyle (such as comping with a moving bass line) , but I choose to play them with a pick for a very important reason (to me, at least). I think that some people loose sight of the fact that t he guitar is a percussive instrument, and when you play with a pick,?there is a greater dynamic range of ?percu ssive sounds that you can produce and incorporate into a more aggressive style of playing. Obviously, there are guitarists like Andy McKee ( and Michael Hedges before him) who incorporate a tremendous amount of percussive sound into their fingerstyle playing, but when I want to make it swing, I like to use a pick.



Phil Petrowski

Beaverton, Oregon


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Over the years I have adapted to playing with pick and fingers. It just happened to. I never set out to do it and I am not really aware of it. I just like the sound of it. Lately I have been playing classical guitar but that's a first for me.

When I was young I could play fingerstyle Delta Blues as well but I don't do much of that anymore.






Brian



From: tomreynolds63
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:10 PM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: [jazz_guitar] Re: Finger Style and/or Plectrum



--- In jazz_guitar@..., John Amato <jamato316@...> wrote:

Would be interesting to survey how many players use finger style and/or
plectrum.

Here's the survey ...

1. Finger Style -- 100% (no Plectrum)

2. Finger Style - 50% (half Plectrum)

3. Finger Style - 25% (more Plectrum)

4. Finger Style - 10% (mostly Plectrum)

5. Plectrum - 100% (no Finger Style)

6. Plectrum - 50% (half Finger Style)

7. Plectrum - 25% (more Finger Style)

8. Plectrum - 10% (mostly Finger Style)

John

Perhaps you would like to set this up as a group poll:



Tom

Would be interesting to survey how many players use finger style and/or
plectrum.

Does thumb only count as finger style? I'd have thought not, so suggest you
include that as well.

-Keith

Keith,
I was going to include Thumb (w/pick) ... but forgot to include it ... Tom
suggested "Group Survey" ... would be great if he sets it up ...






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Tom,

Sounds good ... could you set it up?
John Amato
Isaiah 55:11








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From: tomreynolds63 <tomreynolds63@...>
To: jazz_guitar@...
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 5:10:32 PM
Subject: [jazz_guitar] Re: Finger Style and/or Plectrum


--- In jazz_guitar@..., John Amato <jamato316@...> wrote:

Would be interesting to survey how many players use finger style and/or
plectrum.

Here's the survey ...

1. Finger Style -- 100% (no Plectrum)

2. Finger Style - 50% (half Plectrum)

3. Finger Style - 25% (more Plectrum)

4. Finger Style - 10% (mostly Plectrum)

5. Plectrum - 100% (no Finger Style)

6. Plectrum - 50% (half Finger Style)

7. Plectrum - 25% (more Finger Style)

8. Plectrum - 10% (mostly Finger Style)

John

Perhaps you would like to set this up as a group poll:



Tom

Would be interesting to survey how many players use finger style and/or
plectrum.

Does thumb only count as finger style? I'd have thought not, so suggest you include that as well.

-Keith

I've been using a V-Pick (medium round) for the past couple of years and would still be using it now if I hadn't decided to try thumb technique.

-Keith

--- In jazz_guitar@..., John Amato <jamato316@...> wrote:

Would be interesting to survey how many players use finger style and/or
plectrum.

Here's the survey ...

1. Finger Style -- 100% (no Plectrum)

2. Finger Style - 50% (half Plectrum)

3. Finger Style - 25% (more Plectrum)

4. Finger Style - 10% (mostly Plectrum)

5. Plectrum - 100% (no Finger Style)

6. Plectrum - 50% (half Finger Style)

7. Plectrum - 25% (more Finger Style)

8. Plectrum - 10% (mostly Finger Style)

John

Perhaps you would like to set this up as a group poll:



Tom

Would be interesting to survey how many players use finger style and/or
plectrum.

Here's the survey ...

1. Finger Style -- 100% (no Plectrum)

2. Finger Style - 50% (half Plectrum)

3. Finger Style - 25% (more Plectrum)

4. Finger Style - 10% (mostly Plectrum)

5. Plectrum - 100% (no Finger Style)

6. Plectrum - 50% (half Finger Style)

7. Plectrum - 25% (more Finger Style)

8. Plectrum - 10% (mostly Finger Style)

... once we have results of the survey then we could expound on the advantages
and/or disadvantages of both styles ...


John Amato
Isaiah 55:11

... personally I'm about 50% weened off the pick ... for years I've been
dabbling in "Finger Style," while playing many 'jazz-oriented' pieces (mostly
ballads) with pick and fingers ,,,

About a year and a half ago I finally bit the bullet and have dedicated 50% of
practice time to finger style playing. I still use the pick but only about half
the time.

Finger Style has so many advantages over plectrum .... no argument at all. In
fact, after a year and a half on finger style I am beginning to hear voicings
and harmonies that the plectrum method brushes over instead out "picking" out
....
John Amato
Isaiah 55:11







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Bobby,

LMAO, you must've worked for the gov't in another life, lol. :)

Cheers,
JV

Juan Vega

Hi Scott,

I think you mean "commiserate", and I sure do! I've done those sorts of
gigs in the past, and won't do them anymore, because the money usually isn't
"commensurate" with the amount of work involved. Yup, you're right, that's
a ton of work, tiring, too. You're an animal, right on! :)

Cheers,
JV

Juan Vega

I found a lot of difference between various picks, especially after changing to
a small, light green Dunlop Tortex pick a few years ago. I used the Jazz III's
for a while and, then after reading comments on this forum, used 205's. Lately
I've been using a smaller version 1 mm Dunlop Tortex (black with silver
lettering) which I like.?Strings, on the other hand,?I'm not that fussy about.
For the most part, cheap works for me.
?
R



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Hi Brian, Here is a link for a look at them, but the last batch I got was
off of eBay. $8.00 for 10 w/free shipping. They do last a long time.


On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:13:42 -0500 "Brian Kelly" <bkelly@...>
writes:

Scott,

Where do you get those and what is the exact name and description.
The sound like something I might like.
Brian

Another pick that I like and tend to use on my Gibson Martino are
heavy
Cool jazz picks. They are shaped like Jazz IIIs but are slightly
larger
and made of juratex. They have an abrasive where you hold the pick
to
help with the grip. No click, no drag and no flex.

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Regalado,

Ok, I can't figure this out. Maybe you guys can help explain what's going on with the changes here.

So the song starts with CM7 so i'm thinking key of C here but then the E becomes a dominant so maybe V-I to an A, but that one's a dominant as well.

It doesn't matter that the A is dominant. In the key of C, the A is minor, so approach it as if it were minor; i.e. with a "minor" ii-V.
The same thing applies to the A7. It's leading to Dmi7, so treat it as a "minor" V (or ii-V).

Can you treat bars 7 to 10 a ii-V in A?

Again, in minor.

and then a ii-V in G after that and finaly a ii-V again in C to get back.

Yes.

Good luck,
Steve

Hi Jim,

As I have tried to tell you, I think we are brothers who speak different dialects.
I say black and you say white and vice versa. Never the twain shall meet.

Possibly so.

I appreciate the intensity and energy in your reply, but the rape the daughters crack was way out of line and someone needed to say so.

I'm more concerned with the real artistic and financial rape of my fellow musicians than I am with the figurative rape of a figurative person, and felt someone needed to say so.

Anyway, this horse has just about been kicked to death. I'm done with it, and my guess is that you are also because we're at the point of redundancy.

best,
Bobby

Scott,

Where do you get those and what is the exact name and description. The sound like something I might like.






Brian




From: Scott R Dercks
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:35 AM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] Re: Picks



Another pick that I like and tend to use on my Gibson Martino are heavy
Cool jazz picks. They are shaped like Jazz IIIs but are slightly larger
and made of juratex. They have an abrasive where you hold the pick to
help with the grip. No click, no drag and no flex. So I don't use them
for funk gigs.
Scott

I also like to use a hole puncher for picks that

don't have a grip.
Jim

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--- In jazz_guitar@..., Bob Hansmann <bobbybmusic@...> wrote:
Look, Jim, it's not now, nor has it ever been, my intent to offend you. By way of explanation, and not apology (which I feel would be
unwarranted), I'll tell you how I feel.
I honestly do not know what your idea of the music business is. From
your posts in the past, I've gotten the impression that you feel that unless a musician is giving away all that he is for free, he is not somehow "spiritually minded", or something like that. As you found my sarcasm offensive, I find this so also.
Look Bobby, I don't know where you got this concept of me. As I have tried to tell you, I think we are brothers who speak different dialects.
I say black and you say white and vice versa. Never the twain shall meet. I appreciate the intensity and energy in your reply, but the rape the daughters crack was way out of line and someone needed to say so.
Jim