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"New data-crunching from Songkick and Topspin claims that less than 30,000 artists are actually making a living from their music. The figure was based on analysis of Songkick's database of bands, the types of venues being played, and the likely incomes associated with those venues. Topspin CEO Ian Rogers presented the data at the New Noise Santa Barbara conference this weekend, in a message that cheap production and distribution doesn't mean a windfall for all. "Technology has allowed the cost of production to come down, and the cost of distribution has come down. But the cost of marketing has come up, because you have empowered consumers and unlimited choice… I feel like there are a lot of people in my position frankly – in the software space – who just said `yeah, you're going to make it,' and it's definitely statistically untrue.""

"successful marketing is extremely time-consuming, resource-consuming, and the results highly unpredictable."

"Throughout the talk, Rogers urged a more realistic attitude towards 'making it,' and reminded artists that the odds are definitely against them. Alongside a Powerpoint slide titled (appropriately) "Be Realistic: The Odds are Against You," Rogers pointed to millions of MySpace bands, tens of millions of musicians, and a Long Tail that is "well, very long.""

I read on the Gibson web site that they age
Les Paul bodies for 7 (seven,) years before
turning the wood into a guitar.

However, I saw a tv show last week that visited
the Nashville factory and showed a vacuum machine
that removed the moisture from the wood in a day.

So, which is the truth?

Will

I have often thought the same.

Will

I know Trefor Owen and he is a great guy with a very
down to earth teaching method.

I believe that he does on line teaching as well as one
to one.

In any case his site is well worth a visit.



Will

--- In jazz_guitar@..., JVegaTrio@... wrote:

Yea, take lessons. That's the best way to progress quickly and correctly.
Stay from free Web-based stuff, a lot of that material is full of
mistakes. Another thing you should do (if you haven't already) is listen to jazz
guitarists you like in order to listen to how they phrase, comp, etc. Good
luck.

I would definitely try my best to get lessons from a teacher locally. Thanks for the advice.

Though if you have any sites that aren't filled with faulty materials, that'd help a lot for the time being.

--- In jazz_guitar@..., "Dave Woods" <david_woods@...> wrote:

Check out my free website

Feel free to contact me with any questions about the site. E Mail or my
cell phone are the best.

Will do!

Thanks!

--- In jazz_guitar@..., JVegaTrio@... wrote:

What do you mean by "bad experiences"? I'll be honest, I'm not convinced about "online teachers", but that's just me. How did you come to the conclusion the others "seemed not to know a lot" if you profess to know nothing? Just asking... Where are you located?

I bet if you posted a request for a teacher referral here, you'd get some suggestions. I don't teach "online", I'd rather give one lesson (and never see the person again) than to do it over the Web. My "in person" students often "marvel" at what I tell them (eg, "your left hand is not positioned well", or, "try leaving your 2nd finger down when you reach for that chord"), and it cracks me up, because that's exactly my job. Anyway, if you want to play jazz guitar, a teacher is the best way to approach it. Good luck!

Cheers,

Bad experiences I had was with this one teacher, as far as I know, most people does pull off with their finger flicked down, however this guy initiate/try to make me do it upward. I was like is that even possible? It'll make me not efficient in doing things.

and the other teacher, would just rabble about their experience, and kept neglecting the questions that I asked for. I am in Philly btw.

Thanks for the advice.
:)

--- In jazz_guitar@..., Bob Hansmann <bobbybmusic@...> wrote:

On 11/9/2010 1:46 PM, spkenn5 wrote:

i had bad experiences with local teachers.

Where are you?

I'm in Philly.

--- In jazz_guitar@..., "keithfre" <keith.freeman@...> wrote:

Have you tried asking local jazz musicians (also non-guitarists)? They might know a good teacher.

Workshops, summer courses etc. are a good way of trying out teachers and getting started. I can recommend Garrison Fewell as someone who would get you started on the right track (though your ego might take a bit of a beating in the process - he doesn't mince words!). What I learned from him really got me on the road to improvement, and what I saw him teaching beginners was right on the button.

Jimmy Bruno has a lot of enthusiastic students for his online course, but he's not taking enrolments at the moment, he's in the process of setting up a new site, so you'd need to wait till that's up and running.
Meanwhile you could check out his No Nonsense Jazz Guitar video if it's still available.

I dont really know any jazz musicians around, so far I have only tried craigslist, and after 2-3 teachers I found no-one that "clicks" with me.

I will surely check those guys out.

Thanks!

Hi there,

What do you mean by "bad experiences"? I'll be honest, I'm not convinced about "online teachers", but that's just me. How did you come to the conclusion the others "seemed not to know a lot" if you profess to know nothing? Just asking... Where are you located?

I bet if you posted a request for a teacher referral here, you'd get some suggestions. I don't teach "online", I'd rather give one lesson (and never see the person again) than to do it over the Web. My "in person" students often "marvel" at what I tell them (eg, "your left hand is not positioned well", or, "try leaving your 2nd finger down when you reach for that chord"), and it cracks me up, because that's exactly my job. Anyway, if you want to play jazz guitar, a teacher is the best way to approach it. Good luck!

Cheers,
JV

Juan Vega

Hi there,

Yea, take lessons. That's the best way to progress quickly and correctly.
Stay from free Web-based stuff, a lot of that material is full of
mistakes. Another thing you should do (if you haven't already) is listen to jazz
guitarists you like in order to listen to how they phrase, comp, etc. Good
luck.

Cheers,
JV

Juan Vega

--- In jazz_guitar@..., "dphidt" <dphidt@...> wrote:

Have you noticed a similar effect?

Hi,

definitely. The harmonic aspect of the music comes through in other areas and practicing chords (or just concentrating on them) is a key element for that IMO. Just hearing them in one's head gives another kind of freedom also - you know intuitively how to express the harmonies once you hear them.

As far as from a purely technical point of view, I'm not sure - I feel that although they're connected, single line playing is a different kind of discipline. But from an improvising standpoint, I play so much off of chord shapes that the line gets blurred.

Best wishes,

Petri

www.petrikrzywacki.com

On 11/9/2010 1:46 PM, spkenn5 wrote:

i had bad experiences with local teachers.

Where are you?

Bobby

Have you tried asking local jazz musicians (also non-guitarists)? They might know a good teacher.

Workshops, summer courses etc. are a good way of trying out teachers and getting started. I can recommend Garrison Fewell as someone who would get you started on the right track (though your ego might take a bit of a beating in the process - he doesn't mince words!). What I learned from him really got me on the road to improvement, and what I saw him teaching beginners was right on the button.

Jimmy Bruno has a lot of enthusiastic students for his online course, but he's not taking enrolments at the moment, he's in the process of setting up a new site, so you'd need to wait till that's up and running.
Meanwhile you could check out his No Nonsense Jazz Guitar video if it's still available.

-Keith

Voici quelques ressources pour les praticiens du jazz !
in this page:


By yhe way, the RB1 is, well, screwed up.


Cheers,
André Rodrigues




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--- In jazz_guitar@..., "spkenn5" <spkenn5@...> wrote:

Thanks for the response here, but so far i had bad experiences with
local teachers. One teaches weird things that doesn't make any
sense, while the others seemed not to know a lot either. Do you
think it's good to have online guitar teacher? perhaps if any of
you guys willing to teach online.

I think the advice given here

"HOW TO START: Please, please, please get some lessons from a real,
live human being.

I cannot emphasize enough the value of hooking up with someone who
knows how to teach. It doesn't matter if it is golf, computers, music
or mountain climbing. It will greatly enhance your enjoyment of the
process and improve your future efforts MASSIVELY.

DO NOT: Start randomly accessing internet approaches to your
education. Nothing is more negatively impactful than having umpteen
sources of information when you are just starting out. You must have
a formal, methodical way of entering into the complex world of jazz."

Is right on the money.

And speaking of money if you are determined to just spend it there
are plenty of online teachers, books, lessons, where you can easily
spend it, they are happy to take your money. I wasted about five years doing that. Seriously the best step is try to find a teacher.
I know it is probably not what you want to hear.

Have you hung out at local jazz jam sessions?
Have you asked local musicians for advice?
Have you really searched online for a local teacher?

Mark

Check out my free website

Feel free to contact me with any questions about the site. E Mail or my
cell phone are the best.

Dave Woods

Thanks for the response here, but so far i had bad experiences with local teachers. One teaches weird things that doesn't make any sense, while the others seemed not to know a lot either. Do you think it's good to have online guitar teacher? perhaps if any of you guys willing to teach online.

thanks

--- In jazz_guitar@..., "Petri" <petegtr_1971@...> wrote:

--- In jazz_guitar@..., "dphidt" <dphidt@> wrote:

if I spend some serious time working on my chording, that my single note improvisation gets better.

Hi,

can you specify - does it get better in a technical sense or does the melodic quality of the lines improve?

Best wishes,

Petri

Petri,

It seems to improve both. I think the melodic quality, or at least expressing the essence of the chords comes across more clearly. This seems to be a logical conclusion from working and hearing the chords for extended periods of time. Especially the voice leading aspects of comping. I think those lines become integrated into my hearing, so when I improvise, the essence of the changes, esp. the voice transitions from chord to chord, are emphasized more than would occur if I didn't shed the changes for a few weeks. The key seems to be to really work on the voice leading aspect. If

Also, for some reason, the technical ability (speed, precision, etc.) seems to increase, even though I haven't been working on speed studies, etc. I'm not sure why this happens, but I know of several people (professional players, and some not) that have observed this as well.

Have you noticed a similar effect?

-- Mike V.

spkenn5 wrote:

hi guys, joined this group a while ago. was wondering on how to start

playing jazz guitar. i am mostly self taught, anyone have any idea on how
start? like what practice routines, theory, tunes to listen to etc... thanks
:)



HOW TO START: Please, please, please get some lessons from a real, live
human being.



I cannot emphasize enough the value of hooking up with someone who knows how
to teach. It doesn't matter if it is golf, computers, music or mountain
climbing. It will greatly enhance your enjoyment of the process and improve
your future efforts MASSIVELY.



DO NOT: Start randomly accessing internet approaches to your education.
Nothing is more negatively impactful than having umpteen sources of
information when you are just starting out. You must have a formal,
methodical way of entering into the complex world of jazz.





All the very best, John





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