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Re: Books, authors, characters


 

When one is in school or when I was in school. few women worked outside of
the home.Even during the war, those that did work outside of the home
were mostly blue collar workers and not leaders of anything. Women like
Eleanor Roosevelt were known and could do things because of her husband.
Most of the women we read about were wives or poets. It never occurred to
me , or I daresay, any of my female classmates to wonder why there were no
women presidents,
That thought of Catherine Morland's was straight from the pen of Jane
Austen. I doubt Catherine would have thought it at her age. Though ;after
in the 19th century, Queen Victoria made an impression on the world as a
female ruler who married and had children, her example wasn't considered
one that females in her empire or exemire should think to follow. In fact,
I would say, that during the reign of Victoria, the idea of women belonging
to Kitchen, church, and Children was intensified.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 6:37?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io
<arnieperlstein@...> wrote:

Nancy,

But what does it matter if we can name all the US presidents in order (as
apparently I was able to do at a very young age, to the great pleasure of
my parents) - perhaps the most relevant fact about them to note, following
Catherine Morland's (and therefore also Jane Austen's) example, is that
they have all been men, and, except for one, very late in the game, also
all white.

ARNIE

On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 3:24?PM Nancy Mayer via groups.io
<regencyresearcher=
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I am with Catherine on parts of history. One really needs several charts
to keeptrack of some of it. It does appear that the kings were always
fighting one another and disputing matters with the Pope. One King
thought
Paris was worth a mass and another tossed most of the church
organization
away to have his own way. At least by the 18th century in England, it
became easier to keep track of the kings than of the presidents of the
USA
.During the time of George III and Victoria, there were many presidents
.
I do like much of history but have always had trouble with naming the
presidents in Order as much as I have trouble with the kings of England
from Richard I to Henry VIII. Nancy

On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 5:30?PM Arnie Perlstein via groups.io
<arnieperlstein@...> wrote:

It¡¯s still 85%+ women at JASNA AGMs - most men just haven¡¯t gotten the
memo.

Like Catherine Morland insightfully pointed out about history:

¡°I read it a little as a duty, but it tells me nothing that does not
either vex or weary me. The quarrels of popes and kings, with wars or
pestilences, in every page; the men all so good for nothing, and hardly
any
women at all ¡ª it is very tiresome.¡±

Sad to say, not much has changed since then. Women are still erasable.

Arnie



On Nov 8, 2024, at 2:21?PM, Nancy Mayer via groups.io
<regencyresearcher@...> wrote:

?Dale Spender collected books and biographies of 100 female authors
before Jane Austen. Authors she felt should have some recognition, if
only
that of paving the way for Austen. One of the authors was Inchbald.
Though
Inchbald was in many ways more a translator than original writer, she
did
write two novels. We know her best for the English translation of the
play,
Lovers'Vows.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 5:10?PM Nancy Mayer via groups.io
<regencyresearcher=
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Most of the female authors of the time before and during the life of
Jane Austen are barely known and rarely discussed. The one who are at
least remembered in academic papers are mostly remembered because
Austen
mentioned them in a letter or her books.




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