Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Art, do you mean the plug-in windows software package from mentioned on the PJRC site that works hand in hand with the IDE software to facilitate uploading complied code directly from the IDE into teensy?
I’m using the same plug in software package and am able to compile/upload test code into the teensy with no problem after configuring COM port and board type in the IDE settings. ?
I have not yet attempted to upload the the jackal firmware.
Jim KM4TXR
On Jan 22, 2019, at 12:11 AM, jjpurdum via Groups.Io < s@...> wrote:
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What do you mean "Teensy loader"? Programs should use the Arduino IDE to load files.
Jack, W8TEE
On Monday, January 21, 2019, 5:21:55 PM EST, Art Olson < olson339@...> wrote:
Jim
Thanks for the detailed reply. I am at a point of trying to load a sketch via IDE and the teensy loader with no luck. I was loading the blink program. There doesn’t seem to be a port opened using win10 so the upload fails. I have tried a couple of usb/mini
usb cables again no luck. The usb cable is providing power as the on board led blinks.?
Thoughts
Art
On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Jim Sheldon < w0eb@...> wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is super busy trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll answer your question.? The pad in question is shown on the back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with
it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here, but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on the JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug the USB cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other purpose like CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also
supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the Teensy.? The two voltages will most certainly not be exactly equal as they come from two different power sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other
circuitry (I know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured it out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect the USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same token, if you follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper, you will have to power the JackAl up to get the Teensy operating before you will be
able to re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the jumper (recommended anyway) and just remember that you have to have the JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to program the Teensy 3.6 (or to communicate with it for any reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
What do you mean "Teensy loader"? Programs should use the Arduino IDE to load files.
Jack, W8TEE
On Monday, January 21, 2019, 5:21:55 PM EST, Art Olson <olson339@...> wrote:
Jim Thanks for the detailed reply. I am at a point of trying to load a sketch via IDE and the teensy loader with no luck. I was loading the blink program. There doesn’t seem to be a port opened using win10 so the upload fails. I have tried a couple of usb/mini usb cables again no luck. The usb cable is providing power as the on board led blinks.?
Thoughts
On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Jim Sheldon < w0eb@...> wrote: Art, I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is super busy trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll answer your question.? The pad in question is shown on the back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here, but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut. Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent. You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on the JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug the USB cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other purpose like CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the Teensy.? The two voltages will most certainly not be exactly equal as they come from two different power sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other circuitry (I know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured it out). So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect the USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same token, if you follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper, you will have to power the JackAl up to get the Teensy operating before you will be able to re-program it.? If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the jumper (recommended anyway) and just remember that you have to have the JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to program the Teensy 3.6 (or to communicate with it for any reason). Jim Sheldon - W0EB ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ (Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
I'm working on another DOC file that helps explain this part. Hopefully I'll have it done tomorrow. I have a headache and am giving up for the night...
Jack, W8TEE
On Monday, January 21, 2019, 5:57:48 PM EST, James Zdunic <james_zdunic@...> wrote:
Sorry, butchered part of last message so...
I’ll chime in here and mention that there is some configuration of the IDE software that may be required if you haven’t connected to the teensy. ?The correct COM port will need
to be selected, for those running windows you can confirm which COM port the teensy occupies in the Device Manager. ?The IDE software also has to be told you want to interface with a teensy board in particular. ?Hope this may help someone get connected.
Jim KM4TXR
I’ll chime in here and mention that there is some configuration of the IDE software that may be required if you haven’t connected to the teensy. ?The correct COM port will need to be selected, for those running windows you can confirm which con port the
teensy occupies. ?The IDE software also has to be told you want to interface with a teensy board in particular. ?Hope this may help someone get connected.
Jim KM4TXR
On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Jim Sheldon < w0eb@...> wrote:
Art,
All USB Micro cables are not created equal. ?It looks as if you are using one that was designed for charging a cell phone or something. ?They only have the 5volt and ground connections hooked up in the cable and will not work. ?I have about 50 of them
here that are useless for anything but charging a cell phone or something else charged from a USB port.'
Make sure you have a full data USB micro (not Mini) cable with all connections in place. ?If Windows doesn't recognize it and set it up as soon as you plug it in, then it's not getting data from the computer.
Another possibility is if you are using an external USB hub you may be using a "Charging" port on that hub. ?No data connections to most of those either.
Jim
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Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Jim
Thanks for the detailed reply. I am at a point of trying to load a sketch via IDE and the teensy loader with no luck. I was loading the blink program. There doesn’t seem to be a port opened using win10 so the upload fails. I have tried a couple of usb/mini
usb cables again no luck. The usb cable is providing power as the on board led blinks.?
Thoughts
Art
On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Jim Sheldon < w0eb@...> wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is super busy trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll answer your question.? The pad in question is shown on the back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with
it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here, but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on the JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug the USB cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other purpose like CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also
supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the Teensy.? The two voltages will most certainly not be exactly equal as they come from two different power sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other
circuitry (I know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured it out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect the USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same token, if you follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper, you will have to power the JackAl up to get the Teensy operating before you will be
able to re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the jumper (recommended anyway) and just remember that you have to have the JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to program the Teensy 3.6 (or to communicate with it for any reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Why would you need to do that more than once? You can have 50 different messages, which is enough to do the exchanges for every ARRL contest I know of. In fact, there's enough SRAM space that you could double the string space if you want. So, make your list of CW messages you want to use and then enter them. It will probably be years before you need to change them if you give them a little thought up front.
Most of the other variables that you are likely to change (e.g., keyer speed, sidetone frequency, equalizer bands, etc.) can be changed at runtime. Finally, if you can think of a convenient way to add a keyboard to the ?BITX so messages can be edited in the field, I'd like to know about it.
Jack, W8TEE
On Monday, January 21, 2019, 6:37:56 PM EST, Roy Appleton <twelveoclockhigh@...> wrote:
Ok, I know that I'm going to get in trouble opening my mouth but here goes! So the only way I can change configuration variables such as cw messages is recompling the code and reinstalling everytime?
For 1 thing, not everyone wants one of their built in cw message to be; "cq de w8tee"? RonW0QVJ
Sent from my Galaxy Tab? E
-------- Original message -------- Date: 1/21/19 11:59 AM (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Ok, I'm going to show my ignorance. Why can't the code be compiled once and the resulting machine code be distributed instead of everyone having to compile their own code?
Roy WA0YMH On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 12:52 PM Art Olson < olson339@... wrote: Jack I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
Art N2AJO On Jan 20, 2019, at 10:56 AM, jjpurdum via Groups.Io < jjpurdum@...> wrote:
I could be, I just don't know right now. Still investigating.
Jack, W8TEE
On Sunday, January 20, 2019, 10:48:00 AM EST, f1apy - Jacques < f1apy@...> wrote:
Hello Jack, ? It’s possible that Teensyduino version is not good with Arduino IDE version 1.8.8, I have encountered some problems in past when I work with teensy 2.0 See on forum. 73’s de Jacques – F1APY ?? ? ? All:
I just used Version 1.8.8 of the Arduino IDE and it appears that the code does NOT work with that version. As you can see here:
<image001.jpg>
it does work on 1.8.7. So, even though the latest doc file shows the 1.8.8 compiler, don't upgrade for now until I figure out where the issue is with 1.8.8. (This is one reason why my system has 18 versions of the IDE on it going back to 1.05.)
Also, look in the JackAl.h header file at the #include files. Any non-standard libraries will have the download URL as a comment on the line where you can download/install the new libraries. Some of these libraries have changed in recent months, so you might want to update them. Don't forget, you must close the IDE after any new library is installed and reopen it for the new library to be accessed. Also, the standard RA8875 library is missing a modification we did to it. You? can download our version from the web site.
Jack, W8TEE
<image001.jpg>
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Maybe this will help:
Jack, W8TEE
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Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Cut on the back of the teensy 3.6 near VUSB notation.
On January 21, 2019 at 9:49 PM k7da <k7da@...> wrote:
Jim.?? glad you took the time to explain this, but somewhere along the
line i missed the jumper cutting.? i am also unable to find the card
that came with the teensy.?? so can you give me ( and others that missed
it to) where the jumper is.? it is not obvious looking at the board.
thanks
dave k7da
On 1/21/2019 2:06 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is super busy
trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll answer your question.?
The pad in question is shown on the back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and
other Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with it, as the VIN/VUSB
jumper and it says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR
external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here, but external
power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on the
JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug the USB cable
in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other purpose like CAT
control or other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also supplying
a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the Teensy.? The two voltages
will most certainly not be exactly equal as they come from two
different power sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to
the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other circuitry (I know, I
destroyed one by doing this before I figured it out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect the USB
cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same token, if you follow
PJRC's directions and cut the jumper, you will have to power the
JackAl up to get the Teensy operating before you will be able to
re-program it.
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the jumper
(recommended anyway) and just remember that you have to have the
JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to program the Teensy 3.6
(or to communicate with it for any reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
12:52pm #129 </g/JackAl/message/129>
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the
teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.
Art N2AJO
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The Groups.io Team Cut on the back of the teensy 3.6 near VUSB notation. > On January 21, 2019 at 9:49 PM k7da < k7da@...> wrote: > > > Jim.?? glad you took the time to explain this, but somewhere along the > line i missed the jumper cutting.? i am also unable to find the card > that came with the teensy.?? so can you give me ( and others that missed > it to) where the jumper is.? it is not obvious looking at the board. > > thanks > > dave k7da > > > > On 1/21/2019 2:06 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote: > > Art, > > I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is super busy > > trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll answer your question.? > > The pad in question is shown on the back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and > > other Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with it, as the VIN/VUSB > > jumper and it says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR > > external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here, but external > > power is so the jumper MUST be cut. > > > > Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent. > > > > You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on the > > JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug the USB cable > > in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other purpose like CAT > > control or other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also supplying > > a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the Teensy.? The two voltages > > will most certainly not be exactly equal as they come from two > > different power sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to > > the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other circuitry (I know, I > > destroyed one by doing this before I figured it out). > > > > So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect the USB > > cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same token, if you follow > > PJRC's directions and cut the jumper, you will have to power the > > JackAl up to get the Teensy operating before you will be able to > > re-program it. > > > > If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the jumper > > (recommended anyway) and just remember that you have to have the > > JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to program the Teensy 3.6 > > (or to communicate with it for any reason). > > > > Jim Sheldon - W0EB > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > (Art Olson) > > 12:52pm #129 < /g/JackAl/message/129> > > Jack > > I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the > > teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target. > > Art N2AJO > > > > >
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IMPORTANT -- New Doc files for Understanding/Installing Library Files
All:
We have just uploaded a new document file that explains how we want to see you install the JackAl software. I can tell from some of the questions I'm getting that some people do not understand how the IDE works, especially in terms of how the compiler expects things when using libraries. It will help immensely if everyone uses the same directory structure for the IDE and the JackAl source code files. I believe in this strongly enough that, going forward, I will only answer software questions when I am certain that you have installed all of the software using the guideline provided in this new document. Having a common denominator will make software support much easier for Al and me. Fixing any issues is best done quickly so I can get back to other things we want JackAl to do down the road.
The name of the file is:
???????????????????????????????????? LibraryInstallationInstructions.doc
Jack, W8TEE
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Fewer #include files to download
#include
All: The latest Teensyduino install has greatly increased the number of libraries that PJRC is including with their latest version of Teensyduino. The good news is that I have just completed the new install and it appears that a number of the newly included libraries work fine with JackAl. While there are no substantive changes yet to the JackAl code, we are changing the #include list in the JackAl.h header file. If you want, you can cut-and-paste this new list into your JackAl.h file: #include <Arduino.h>????????? // Standard with IDE #include <EEPROM.h>?????????? // EEPROM distributed with Teensy libraries #include <math.h>???????????? // Standard with IDE #include <Wire.h>???????????? // Standard with IDE #include <SPI.h>????????????? // Standard with IDE #include <stdio.h>??????????? // Standard with IDE #include <OpenAudio_ArduinoLibrary.h> // http://hamradiodesigns.com/index.php/content/ #include <Adafruit_GFX.h>???? // Now supplied with Teensy Library install #include <Audio.h>??????????? // Now supplied with Teensy Library install #include <RA8875.h>?????????? // http://hamradiodesigns.com/index.php/content/ #include <Rotary.h>?????????? // https://github.com/brianlow/Rotary #include <SerialFlash.h>????? // Now supplied with Teensy Library install #include <Time.h>???????????? // Now supplied with Teensy Library install #include <TimeLib.h>????????? // Now supplied with Teensy Library install #include <TimerOne.h>???????? // Now supplied with Teensy Library install #include <UTFT.h>???????????? // Now supplied with Teensy Library install #include <URTouch.h>????????? // http://www.rinkydinkelectronics.com/library.php?id=92 #include <UTFT_Buttons.h>???? // http://www.rinkydinkelectronics.com/library.php?id=61 Note that there are still some library you must download/install, including our version of some existing libraries that are downloaded from our web site. If you have already downloaded and installed the files, including our libraries, you should be having successful compiles. Jack, W8TEE
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Cut on the back of the teensy 3.6 near VUSB notation.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On January 21, 2019 at 9:49 PM k7da <k7da@...> wrote:
Jim.?? glad you took the time to explain this, but somewhere along the
line i missed the jumper cutting.? i am also unable to find the card
that came with the teensy.?? so can you give me ( and others that missed
it to) where the jumper is.? it is not obvious looking at the board.
thanks
dave k7da
On 1/21/2019 2:06 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is super busy
trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll answer your question.?
The pad in question is shown on the back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and
other Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with it, as the VIN/VUSB
jumper and it says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR
external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here, but external
power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on the
JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug the USB cable
in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other purpose like CAT
control or other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also supplying
a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the Teensy.? The two voltages
will most certainly not be exactly equal as they come from two
different power sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to
the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other circuitry (I know, I
destroyed one by doing this before I figured it out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect the USB
cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same token, if you follow
PJRC's directions and cut the jumper, you will have to power the
JackAl up to get the Teensy operating before you will be able to
re-program it.
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the jumper
(recommended anyway) and just remember that you have to have the
JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to program the Teensy 3.6
(or to communicate with it for any reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
12:52pm #129 </g/JackAl/message/129>
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the
teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.
Art N2AJO
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
All:
I wasn't sure of the answer, so I passed Art's email on to Al, who did answer me and said the same as Jim did. That is, cut the very thin trace on the backside of the Teensy. It does mean that you must supply an external voltage to power the Teensy while using the USB cable to program it. I thought I passed Al's response on, but I don't see it in my sent box.
Jack, W8TEE
On Monday, January 21, 2019, 10:03:39 PM EST, Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:
Backside of the pinout card.
On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:56 PM, k7da < k7da@...> wrote:
i didn't have any luck when i looked.
dave
On 1/21/2019 6:55 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
Go to
and you should find it.
Jim
On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:49 PM, k7da < k7da@...>
wrote:
Jim.?? glad you took the time to explain this, but
somewhere along the line i missed the jumper cutting.? i am
also unable to find the card that came with the teensy.?? so
can you give me ( and others that missed it to) where the
jumper is.? it is not obvious looking at the board.
thanks
dave k7da
On 1/21/2019 2:06 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is
super busy trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll
answer your question.? The pad in question is shown on the
back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well)
pinout card that came with it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it
says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR
external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here,
but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on
the JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug
the USB cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other
purpose like CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB
port) you are also supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB
port to the Teensy.? The two voltages will most certainly
not be exactly equal as they come from two different power
sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to the
Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other circuitry (I
know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured it
out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect
the USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same
token, if you follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper,
you will have to power the JackAl up to get the Teensy
operating before you will be able to re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the
jumper (recommended anyway) and just remember that you have
to have the JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to
program the Teensy 3.6 (or to communicate with it for any
reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5
volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I
off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
worked
thanks dave
On 1/21/2019 7:01 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
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Show quoted text
Google Teensy 3.6 pinout and you should find it.
On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:56 PM, k7da < k7da@...>
wrote:
i didn't have any luck when i looked.
dave
On 1/21/2019 6:55 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
Go to
and you should find it.
Jim
On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:49 PM, k7da < k7da@...>
wrote:
Jim.?? glad you took the time to explain this, but
somewhere along the line i missed the jumper cutting.?
i am also unable to find the card that came with the
teensy.?? so can you give me ( and others that missed
it to) where the jumper is.? it is not obvious looking
at the board.
thanks
dave k7da
On 1/21/2019 2:06 PM, Jim
Sheldon wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack
is super busy trying to sort out everyone's problems
so I'll answer your question.? The pad in question is
shown on the back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and other
Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with it, as
the VIN/VUSB jumper and it says to cut that jumper if
using a battery charger OR external power.? The
battery charger isn't relevant here, but external
power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt
regulator on the JackAl board.? If you have not cut
the jumper and plug the USB cable in to re-program the
Teensy (or for some other purpose like CAT control or
other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also
supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the
Teensy.? The two voltages will most certainly not be
exactly equal as they come from two different power
sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to
the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other
circuitry (I know, I destroyed one by doing this
before I figured it out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't
connect the USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By
the same token, if you follow PJRC's directions and
cut the jumper, you will have to power the JackAl up
to get the Teensy operating before you will be able to
re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then
cut the jumper (recommended anyway) and just remember
that you have to have the JackAl powered up to use the
USB connection to program the Teensy 3.6 (or to
communicate with it for any reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting
the 5 volt pad on the teensy. Is this still
necessary or am I off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Backside of the pinout card.
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On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:56 PM, k7da < k7da@...> wrote:
i didn't have any luck when i looked.
dave
On 1/21/2019 6:55 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
Go to
and you should find it.
Jim
On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:49 PM, k7da < k7da@...>
wrote:
Jim.?? glad you took the time to explain this, but
somewhere along the line i missed the jumper cutting.? i am
also unable to find the card that came with the teensy.?? so
can you give me ( and others that missed it to) where the
jumper is.? it is not obvious looking at the board.
thanks
dave k7da
On 1/21/2019 2:06 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is
super busy trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll
answer your question.? The pad in question is shown on the
back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well)
pinout card that came with it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it
says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR
external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here,
but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on
the JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug
the USB cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other
purpose like CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB
port) you are also supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB
port to the Teensy.? The two voltages will most certainly
not be exactly equal as they come from two different power
sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to the
Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other circuitry (I
know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured it
out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect
the USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same
token, if you follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper,
you will have to power the JackAl up to get the Teensy
operating before you will be able to re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the
jumper (recommended anyway) and just remember that you have
to have the JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to
program the Teensy 3.6 (or to communicate with it for any
reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5
volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I
off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Google Teensy 3.6 pinout and you should find it.
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On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:56 PM, k7da < k7da@...> wrote:
i didn't have any luck when i looked.
dave
On 1/21/2019 6:55 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
Go to
and you should find it.
Jim
On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:49 PM, k7da < k7da@...>
wrote:
Jim.?? glad you took the time to explain this, but
somewhere along the line i missed the jumper cutting.? i am
also unable to find the card that came with the teensy.?? so
can you give me ( and others that missed it to) where the
jumper is.? it is not obvious looking at the board.
thanks
dave k7da
On 1/21/2019 2:06 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is
super busy trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll
answer your question.? The pad in question is shown on the
back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well)
pinout card that came with it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it
says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR
external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here,
but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on
the JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug
the USB cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other
purpose like CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB
port) you are also supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB
port to the Teensy.? The two voltages will most certainly
not be exactly equal as they come from two different power
sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to the
Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other circuitry (I
know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured it
out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect
the USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same
token, if you follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper,
you will have to power the JackAl up to get the Teensy
operating before you will be able to re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the
jumper (recommended anyway) and just remember that you have
to have the JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to
program the Teensy 3.6 (or to communicate with it for any
reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5
volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I
off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
|
Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
i didn't have any luck when i looked.
dave
On 1/21/2019 6:55 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
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Go to
and you should find it.
Jim
On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:49 PM, k7da < k7da@...>
wrote:
Jim.?? glad you took the time to explain this, but
somewhere along the line i missed the jumper cutting.? i am
also unable to find the card that came with the teensy.?? so
can you give me ( and others that missed it to) where the
jumper is.? it is not obvious looking at the board.
thanks
dave k7da
On 1/21/2019 2:06 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is
super busy trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll
answer your question.? The pad in question is shown on the
back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well)
pinout card that came with it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it
says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR
external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here,
but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on
the JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug
the USB cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other
purpose like CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB
port) you are also supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB
port to the Teensy.? The two voltages will most certainly
not be exactly equal as they come from two different power
sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to the
Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other circuitry (I
know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured it
out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect
the USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same
token, if you follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper,
you will have to power the JackAl up to get the Teensy
operating before you will be able to re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the
jumper (recommended anyway) and just remember that you have
to have the JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to
program the Teensy 3.6 (or to communicate with it for any
reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5
volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I
off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
|
Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Go to and you should find it.
Jim
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On Jan 21, 2019, at 8:49 PM, k7da < k7da@...> wrote:
Jim.?? glad you took the time to explain this, but somewhere
along the line i missed the jumper cutting.? i am also unable to
find the card that came with the teensy.?? so can you give me (
and others that missed it to) where the jumper is.? it is not
obvious looking at the board.
thanks
dave k7da
On 1/21/2019 2:06 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is super busy
trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll answer your
question.? The pad in question is shown on the back side of the
Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with
it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it says to cut that jumper if using
a battery charger OR external power.? The battery charger isn't
relevant here, but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on the
JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug the USB
cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other purpose like
CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also
supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the Teensy.? The
two voltages will most certainly not be exactly equal as they come
from two different power sources and they WILL conflict with
possible damage to the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other
circuitry (I know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured
it out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect the
USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same token, if you
follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper, you will have to
power the JackAl up to get the Teensy operating before you will be
able to re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the jumper
(recommended anyway) and just remember that you have to have the
JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to program the Teensy
3.6 (or to communicate with it for any reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad
on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
|
Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Jim.?? glad you took the time to explain this, but somewhere
along the line i missed the jumper cutting.? i am also unable to
find the card that came with the teensy.?? so can you give me (
and others that missed it to) where the jumper is.? it is not
obvious looking at the board.
thanks
dave k7da
On 1/21/2019 2:06 PM, Jim Sheldon
wrote:
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Show quoted text
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is super busy
trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll answer your
question.? The pad in question is shown on the back side of the
Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with
it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it says to cut that jumper if using
a battery charger OR external power.? The battery charger isn't
relevant here, but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on the
JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug the USB
cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other purpose like
CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also
supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the Teensy.? The
two voltages will most certainly not be exactly equal as they come
from two different power sources and they WILL conflict with
possible damage to the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other
circuitry (I know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured
it out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect the
USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same token, if you
follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper, you will have to
power the JackAl up to get the Teensy operating before you will be
able to re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the jumper
(recommended anyway) and just remember that you have to have the
JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to program the Teensy
3.6 (or to communicate with it for any reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad
on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
|
Re: Arduino IDE 1.8.8 issues continued
Quick and painless? using
Windows 10 Machine
Arduino 1.8.8
Teensydunio 1.45 (all optional libs installed)
I did get a successful compile using my freshly installed?Arduino?1.8.7 /?Teensydunio 1.45, but I had to use the UTFT lib?C:\Arduino1.8.7\hardware\teensy\avr\libraries\UTFT, not the one?downloaded from?
Also had to hack up?OpenAudio_ArduinoLibrary lib? EVEN with 1.8.7 so there is probably some subtly. Not just 1.8.7 vs 1.8.8? May have more to do with Teesyduino version?
(Same issue with?control_tlv320aic3206.)
For Arduino 1.8.8, the compile doesn't seem to care if I use?? or? C:\Arduino1.8.8\hardware\teensy\avr\libraries\UTFT
(although the C:\Arduino1.8.8\hardware\teensy\avr\libraries\UTFT "seems" more up to date with??__MK66FX1M0__? used in the #if #elif structure.
Jack, you already stated you and Al were looking into which libs to use in the case of the additional libs installed by Teensy. So will standby for your recommendation.
Rgds,
Gary
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Dave
You could put a drop of solder across the two pads then use a usb cable to power the teensy. That’s what I did and will remove the solder blob once I begin the physical.build
Art
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On Jan 21, 2019, at 6:54 PM, David Berkompas < david.berkompas@...> wrote: I cut the trace on the back of the Teensy, and use one of these when testing:
(Provides either 3.5v or 5v from a wall-wart)
This particular one is out of stock, but I'm sure there's other vendors with similar products.
Jim, thanks for all your valuable input, it is very much appreciated.
Dave - AI6K
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
I cut the trace on the back of the Teensy, and use one of these when testing:
(Provides either 3.5v or 5v from a wall-wart)
This particular one is out of stock, but I'm sure there's other vendors with similar products.
Jim, thanks for all your valuable input, it is very much appreciated.
Dave - AI6K
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Ok, I know that I'm going to get in trouble opening my mouth but here goes! So the only way I can change configuration variables such as cw messages is recompling the code and reinstalling everytime?
For 1 thing, not everyone wants one of their built in cw message to be; "cq de w8tee"? RonW0QVJ
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-------- Original message -------- Date: 1/21/19 11:59 AM (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Ok, I'm going to show my ignorance. Why can't the code be compiled once and the resulting machine code be distributed instead of everyone having to compile their own code?
Roy WA0YMH On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 12:52 PM Art Olson < olson339@... wrote: Jack I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
Art N2AJO On Jan 20, 2019, at 10:56 AM, jjpurdum via Groups.Io < jjpurdum@...> wrote:
I could be, I just don't know right now. Still investigating.
Jack, W8TEE
On Sunday, January 20, 2019, 10:48:00 AM EST, f1apy - Jacques < f1apy@...> wrote:
Hello Jack, ? It’s possible that Teensyduino version is not good with Arduino IDE version 1.8.8, I have encountered some problems in past when I work with teensy 2.0 See on forum. 73’s de Jacques – F1APY ?? ? ? All:
I just used Version 1.8.8 of the Arduino IDE and it appears that the code does NOT work with that version. As you can see here:
<image001.jpg>
it does work on 1.8.7. So, even though the latest doc file shows the 1.8.8 compiler, don't upgrade for now until I figure out where the issue is with 1.8.8. (This is one reason why my system has 18 versions of the IDE on it going back to 1.05.)
Also, look in the JackAl.h header file at the #include files. Any non-standard libraries will have the download URL as a comment on the line where you can download/install the new libraries. Some of these libraries have changed in recent months, so you might want to update them. Don't forget, you must close the IDE after any new library is installed and reopen it for the new library to be accessed. Also, the standard RA8875 library is missing a modification we did to it. You? can download our version from the web site.
Jack, W8TEE
<image001.jpg>
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Jim
Thanks. Found a good usb cable and com port came right up
Thanks?
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On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:51 PM, James Zdunic < james_zdunic@...> wrote:
I’ll chime in here and mention that there is some configuration of the IDE software that may be required if you haven’t connected to the teensy. ?The correct COM port will need to be selected, for those running windows you can confirm which con port the
teensy occupies. ?The IDE software also has to be told you want to interface with a teensy board in particular. ?Hope this may help someone get connected.
Jim KM4TXR
On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Jim Sheldon < w0eb@...> wrote:
Art,
All USB Micro cables are not created equal. ?It looks as if you are using one that was designed for charging a cell phone or something. ?They only have the 5volt and ground connections hooked up in the cable and will not work. ?I have about 50 of them
here that are useless for anything but charging a cell phone or something else charged from a USB port.'
Make sure you have a full data USB micro (not Mini) cable with all connections in place. ?If Windows doesn't recognize it and set it up as soon as you plug it in, then it's not getting data from the computer.
Another possibility is if you are using an external USB hub you may be using a "Charging" port on that hub. ?No data connections to most of those either.
Jim
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Sent: 1/21/2019 4:21:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Jim
Thanks for the detailed reply. I am at a point of trying to load a sketch via IDE and the teensy loader with no luck. I was loading the blink program. There doesn’t seem to be a port opened using win10 so the upload fails. I have tried a couple of usb/mini
usb cables again no luck. The usb cable is providing power as the on board led blinks.?
Thoughts
Art
On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Jim Sheldon < w0eb@...> wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is super busy trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll answer your question.? The pad in question is shown on the back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with
it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here, but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on the JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug the USB cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other purpose like CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also
supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the Teensy.? The two voltages will most certainly not be exactly equal as they come from two different power sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other
circuitry (I know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured it out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect the USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same token, if you follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper, you will have to power the JackAl up to get the Teensy operating before you will be
able to re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the jumper (recommended anyway) and just remember that you have to have the JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to program the Teensy 3.6 (or to communicate with it for any reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
|
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