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Re: Inyo Permits

 

That is because from Feb 28 to March 1, there are several days: 29, 30, 31. One advantage of the end of Feb.

Two Dogs

On 3/1/2022 03:47, Jeff Manas via groups.io wrote:
Permits are available for August 29, 30 and 31. I thought everything would be available at 7:00 AM, but they¡¯re available now.
Snowpack #file-notice #Conditions

 

I know there can be some late winter and early spring addition, but with virtually no snow added in January and February it would appear at best it will be a below average snowpack year.? For those that have hiked in low, normal and high snow years, what's your guess on the date for the end of "mosquito season".

I know in 2017 and 19, extremely high snow years, mosquitos were still an issue in mid August and a bit later on most of the trail.? 2020 in late August they weren't much of a problem when I was in the western part of SEKI.
Re: Inyo Permits

 

Some info for anyone trying to figure out Inyo NF¡¯s release timing, I think 8/29-31 permits were released at midnight; I grabbed mine then. (Whether this year¡¯s fire season will allow me to actually use them is an entirely different matter...)


On Tuesday, March 1, 2022, Jeff Manas via <jeffmanas=[email protected]> wrote:
Permits are available for August 29, 30 and 31. I thought everything would be available at 7:00 AM, but they¡¯re available now.
Re: Inyo Permits

 

Permits are available for August 29, 30 and 31. I thought everything would be available at 7:00 AM, but they¡¯re available now.
Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

The walkup procedure is different for Yosemite this year. Read details here.?
Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

The park service is planning on having the Tuolumne Meadows Hiker's shuttle operational this year.? Thus, you could stay overnight at the backpacker's campground in Yosemite Valley, and take the morning hiker's shuttle to TM and arrive there with enough time to easily make it a good chunk of the way down Lyell Canyon instead of waiting for the YARTS buses in the afternoon.
Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

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One additional option is to see if you can get a walk up permit the day before your permitted hike. ?Its a bit different now so check regulations. I have done that from the valley and from Tuolumne meadows. ?From Tuolumne four miles gets you to dispersed camping in Lyle canyon. ?The hike from the valley to Tuolumne is far and a big climb, so probably not your best option unless you are a strong hiker. ?


On Feb 27, 2022, at 8:44 AM, Ger Murphy via groups.io <germurphymail@...> wrote:

?Hi,

After 2 years of trip cancellations due to COVID, I am very grateful to have a permit leaving from Tuolumne Meadows in late June this year. The Tuolumne Meadows campsite is closed for renovation this year. Is it allowed to camp at the trail head the night before a backpack trip, and if not appreciate any recommendations on where to camp/stay for someone without a car and wanting to get a reasonably early start.

Geraldine.

Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

Thanks, that is my best option, as I don't want to be going back and forth on public transport.

It is good to know the back-up option, thanks all.

Geraldine

On Sunday, February 27, 2022, 06:09:44 PM GMT, Jeff Manas via groups.io <jeffmanas@...> wrote:


Sure! They can fill up, but you can usually find someone willing to share.





Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

Sure! They can fill up, but you can usually find someone willing to share.
Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

Thanks, I'll look into a motel at Lee Vining.
Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

As someone suggested, stay at a motel in Lee Vining.? The early morning Yarts bus gets you to TM around 8:30.? That's plenty early to get you to the campground just before Donahue.


On Sun, Feb 27, 2022, 9:50 AM Frank <frankdpct@...> wrote:

They may be resuming the Tuolumne Meadows Hikers Bus this year. That would get you to Tuolumne Meadows aroun 10:30 am,? earlier than the YARTS bus. I would check on it.

I haven't stayed at the backpacker's camp in the Valley, but in Tuolumne you didn't get a specific campsite so it didn't fill up. Since you will have your wilderness permit you should be able to camp there.

Frank

On 2/27/2022 9:14 AM, Ger Murphy via wrote:
I plan to arrive by bus to Yosemite valley the day before I start my trip.

I could potentially stay in the backpackers campsite (but no guarantee of a place) and get the first YART out of the valley. There is very limited accommodation in the valley. I tried Curry Village but it is booked out.

Ideally, I'd like to be close to the trailhead to get an early start.

Geraldine?

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Frank

Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

Thanks Jeff, is there always space there or could I arrive at the backpackers camp and not get a camping spot because it's full?


Ger.
On Sunday, February 27, 2022, 05:46:54 PM GMT, Jeff Manas via groups.io <jeffmanas@...> wrote:


You can stay one night in the backpackers camp if you arrive by bus, or have a permit for the next day. You¡¯re covered for staying in the backpacker¡¯s camp.




Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

I still don't really fully understand. If?you arrive one day later you save one day of vacation before the trip, which you can use extra at the end of the trip.
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But if there one is allowed to use the backpackers camp for one night the problem is solved.
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Henning
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Gesendet:?Sonntag, 27. Februar 2022 um 18:34 Uhr
Von:?"Ger Murphy via groups.io" <germurphymail@...>
An:?"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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I can only get 3 weeks off work, and that needs to include travel time, and I want to enjoy the trip with two layover days.

Ger.

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Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

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They may be resuming the Tuolumne Meadows Hikers Bus this year. That would get you to Tuolumne Meadows aroun 10:30 am,? earlier than the YARTS bus. I would check on it.

I haven't stayed at the backpacker's camp in the Valley, but in Tuolumne you didn't get a specific campsite so it didn't fill up. Since you will have your wilderness permit you should be able to camp there.

Frank

On 2/27/2022 9:14 AM, Ger Murphy via groups.io wrote:

I plan to arrive by bus to Yosemite valley the day before I start my trip.

I could potentially stay in the backpackers campsite (but no guarantee of a place) and get the first YART out of the valley. There is very limited accommodation in the valley. I tried Curry Village but it is booked out.

Ideally, I'd like to be close to the trailhead to get an early start.

Geraldine?

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Frank
Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

You can stay one night in the backpackers camp if you arrive by bus, or have a permit for the next day. You¡¯re covered for staying in the backpacker¡¯s camp.
Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

I can only get 3 weeks off work, and that needs to include travel time, and I want to enjoy the trip with two layover days.

Ger.
Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

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You could also stay in a Lee Vining Hotel and arrange a private early drop off.?


On Feb 27, 2022, at 9:24 AM, Henning Rech <whrech@...> wrote:

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Why not just arrive the day of your permit in Yosemite, and start the same day into Lyell Canyon to a campsite outside the 4 miles zone?
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Henning
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Gesendet:?Sonntag, 27. Februar 2022 um 18:14 Uhr
Von:?"Ger Murphy via groups.io" <germurphymail@...>
An:?"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Betreff:?Re: [JMT-groups.io] Camping at Trailhead
I plan to arrive by bus to Yosemite valley the day before I start my trip.

I could potentially stay in the backpackers campsite (but no guarantee of a place) and get the first YART out of the valley. There is very limited accommodation in the valley. I tried Curry Village but it is booked out.

Ideally, I'd like to be close to the trailhead to get an early start.

Geraldine?

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Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

Why not just arrive the day of your permit in Yosemite, and start the same day into Lyell Canyon to a campsite outside the 4 miles zone?
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Henning
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Gesendet:?Sonntag, 27. Februar 2022 um 18:14 Uhr
Von:?"Ger Murphy via groups.io" <germurphymail@...>
An:?"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Betreff:?Re: [JMT-groups.io] Camping at Trailhead
I plan to arrive by bus to Yosemite valley the day before I start my trip.

I could potentially stay in the backpackers campsite (but no guarantee of a place) and get the first YART out of the valley. There is very limited accommodation in the valley. I tried Curry Village but it is booked out.

Ideally, I'd like to be close to the trailhead to get an early start.

Geraldine?

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Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

I plan to arrive by bus to Yosemite valley the day before I start my trip.

I could potentially stay in the backpackers campsite (but no guarantee of a place) and get the first YART out of the valley. There is very limited accommodation in the valley. I tried Curry Village but it is booked out.

Ideally, I'd like to be close to the trailhead to get an early start.

Geraldine?
Re: Camping at Trailhead

 

https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tmcamp.htm
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Henning
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Gesendet:?Sonntag, 27. Februar 2022 um 17:44 Uhr
Von:?"Ger Murphy via groups.io" <germurphymail@...>
An:[email protected]
Betreff:?[JMT-groups.io] Camping at Trailhead
Hi,

After 2 years of trip cancellations due to COVID, I am very grateful to have a permit leaving from Tuolumne Meadows in late June this year. The Tuolumne Meadows campsite is closed for renovation this year. Is it allowed to camp at the trail head the night before a backpack trip, and if not appreciate any recommendations on where to camp/stay for someone without a car and wanting to get a reasonably early start.

Geraldine.

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