On Feb 22, 2022, at 4:47 PM, Mike Sherman <msherman55@...> wrote:

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FWIW, midweek late last August we had no problems w/o reservations getting from Fresno to Yosemite Valley to Mammoth to Bishop in one long day.?

On 02/20/2022 2:32 PM ravi_jmt2013 <ravi@...> wrote:

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Does anyone know when it will be possible to book reservations for summer travel on YARTS? It seems like the reservation system will not allow for booking yet, at least not for August, probably because the summer schedule is not finalized yet.

Normally, I would not stress out over being able to ride YARTS (Merced to Yosemite Valley and Yosemite Valley to Mammoth) but given the COVID limitations and what seems like crazy demand for permits this year, I am nervous about all of the logistical factors related to my trip! ?

Prior to 2020 a travel snafu that caused a delay was not that bad for east side entry because the old walk-up system made it very likely to get something on the same day of entry. However, now with "walk ups" reservable two weeks ahead of time, a delay could mean not going on the hike at all.

On 02/20/2022 2:32 PM ravi_jmt2013 <ravi@...> wrote:

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Does anyone know when it will be possible to book reservations for summer travel on YARTS? It seems like the reservation system will not allow for booking yet, at least not for August, probably because the summer schedule is not finalized yet.

Normally, I would not stress out over being able to ride YARTS (Merced to Yosemite Valley and Yosemite Valley to Mammoth) but given the COVID limitations and what seems like crazy demand for permits this year, I am nervous about all of the logistical factors related to my trip! ?

Prior to 2020 a travel snafu that caused a delay was not that bad for east side entry because the old walk-up system made it very likely to get something on the same day of entry. However, now with "walk ups" reservable two weeks ahead of time, a delay could mean not going on the hike at all.

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The very useful collection of shared resources from Guidebook author Elizabeth Wenk was not loading correctly for most people since Google Drive made a change last fall. We finally figured out the problem and largely fixed it.

Folder links within this lead-in PDF are not yet fixed, but the more important links to individual files seem to work fine. Sorry for the delay.



Includes gpx files, useful compressed waypoint PDFs, maps (not in her guidebook) of the first 20+ miles between Cottonwood Pass or New Army Pass and Crabtree Meadows. And other useful resources.

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John Curran Ladd
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On Feb 21, 2022, at 3:56 PM, Andrew Paisley <andrew.paisley866@...> wrote:

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That’s ?great information Randy.? Is it wise to make those travel arrangements as early as possible??

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 2:47 PM Randy <rpsatterfield@...> wrote:

When I called YARTS to ask about Yosemite to Fresno they said schedules would be posted sometime in March. That may apply to your request as well.?

Sent from my mobile phone. Please excuse any misspellings.?

On Feb 20, 2022, at 3:34 PM, ravi_jmt2013 <ravi@...> wrote:

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Does anyone know when it will be possible to book reservations for summer travel on YARTS? It seems like the reservation system will not allow for booking yet, at least not for August, probably because the summer schedule is not finalized yet.

Normally, I would not stress out over being able to ride YARTS (Merced to Yosemite Valley and Yosemite Valley to Mammoth) but given the COVID limitations and what seems like crazy demand for permits this year, I am nervous about all of the logistical factors related to my trip! ?

Prior to 2020 a travel snafu that caused a delay was not that bad for east side entry because the old walk-up system made it very likely to get something on the same day of entry. However, now with "walk ups" reservable two weeks ahead of time, a delay could mean not going on the hike at all.

On Feb 20, 2022, at 3:34 PM, ravi_jmt2013 <ravi@...> wrote:

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[Edited Message Follows]

Does anyone know when it will be possible to book reservations for summer travel on YARTS? It seems like the reservation system will not allow for booking yet, at least not for August, probably because the summer schedule is not finalized yet.

Normally, I would not stress out over being able to ride YARTS (Merced to Yosemite Valley and Yosemite Valley to Mammoth) but given the COVID limitations and what seems like crazy demand for permits this year, I am nervous about all of the logistical factors related to my trip! ?

Prior to 2020 a travel snafu that caused a delay was not that bad for east side entry because the old walk-up system made it very likely to get something on the same day of entry. However, now with "walk ups" reservable two weeks ahead of time, a delay could mean not going on the hike at all.

On Feb 18, 2022, at 08:25, Anand Kumar Sankaran <anand.sankaran@...> wrote:

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Came here to say what Henning said. I entered first night trailhead, left everything else blank and chose an alternate leader.?

On Feb 18, 2022, at 8:22 AM, Steve Perry <perry240@...> wrote:

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Thank you! Good to know.?

On Feb 18, 2022, at 11:19 AM, Henning Rech <whrech@...> wrote:

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Hi Steve,

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>? before I could enter all my overnight locations

this is not necessary. Log in before 7 an, reload in the right moment, grab the permit, and just add an arbitrary exit trailhead and a short duration, like 3 days, plus the campsites as "unknown". And do not forget to enter a possible alternate trip leader if you want. Then you can pay, and your permit is safe.

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All the rest is editable afterwards: exit trailhead, trip length, camp sites. If the 15 minutes for each change are not enough you can do it in multiple steps. No reason to stress.

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Henning (who got his Cottonwood Pass permit for late July straightaway)

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Betreff:?Re: [JMT-groups.io] Inyo Reservations

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Thanks Ravi! I just tried to grab two of the Cottonwood Lakes permits but the page literally expired before I could enter all my overnight locations. Now I’ve run out of time to work on it today. Arghh..

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On Feb 18, 2022, at 10:24 AM, ravi_jmt2013 <ravi@...> wrote:
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?As many others have reported, the reservations for Inyo this year are super-competitive like I have never seen before. One issue I had is that the system did not make the August 18 permits available immediately at 7:00 am pacific, which is precisely when I submitted the search query. ?So I had to do so again which cost me around 10-15 seconds. At that time, it appeared that a lot of permits were still available but when I clicked on my choice of Duck Pass, all of the permits were gone!

I didn't expect that, and there were two permits left for Cottonwood Pass, so I grabbed one since I wanted to make sure I got *something* even though I don't really want to start northbound this year.?

After completing the reservation for Cottonwood Pass, I checked overall availability around 7:10 am, and noticed that a Red Cones permit was now available so I grabbed that one and canceled the Cottonwood Pass permit. This way I can start from Mammoth as I had planned, although from a somewhat less desirable start (I wanted to see Duck Lake).

As of right now, there is still one Cottonwood Pass permit (probably the one I cancelled), two Cottonwood Lakes permits, nine Fish Creek permits, two permits for JMT South of Devil's Postpone, five River Trail permits, and that's about it for the popular entry points.

Anyway, just wanted to describe my experience in case it is helpful for others. ?My advice is to give the system five seconds or so after 7:00 am pacific since the inventory doesn't seem to be released at 7 on the dot. ?And be sure to check about 15 minutes later since some people will abandon their carts and permits may go back into the inventory.

This is way more stressful than it used to be!

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I used a spot for many years before switching to InReach in 2016. I did so to have two way communication with family. My entire reason for carrying a device is to be in touch with my family since it makes them feel better about my trips. And in recent years, I feel better about being on the trail knowing that if an emergency arises at home, I can be notified and that way I could exit as soon as possible. I use the cheapest InReach freedom plan and don’t use tracking. Unless there’s a reason to text (emergency only), I use unlimited preset messages only.?

If I did not have a reason to keep in touch with family, I would not carry a PLB on heavily trafficked trails in peak months, such as the JMT. Or if I did see a need, like off trail or off season, I’d use one of the PLB devices with no monthly fee that has no texting capability.?