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Re: Are you worried about smoke on your hike?

 

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NoBo July29- Aug 29. I’m not worried. I know all the exit points each year I go and since it isn’t my first JMT, I am fully in acceptance that the journey could potentially end early. I experienced the most smoke in 2020. Not enjoyable to hike in and fully disrupted my views.?
End of Aug 2021 I experienced a lot of fire smoke while departing Reds Meadow NoBo and decided to turn around.
The trail isn’t going anywhere and there’s freedom in being a local.

Happy trails!

Heather McCoy
@mermaidlovesmountains

On Apr 28, 2022, at 8:31 AM, John Ladd <johnladd@...> wrote:

?Thank you!

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John Curran Ladd
San Francisco, CA?
415-648-9279


Re: Are you worried about smoke on your hike?

 

Thanks for finding those broken links in the Wildfire section. I can add replacement links as I have updated lists that I use.?

Inga Aksamit


Re: Are you worried about smoke on your hike?

 

Thank you!

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John Curran Ladd
San Francisco, CA?
415-648-9279


Re: Are you worried about smoke on your hike?

 

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Hi John,

I checked out the links and got three error notifications. The below links did not work:


Wildfires

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Smoke & Air Quality


I am sorry I do not have any replacemeny links, but if I find something useful I will make a suggestion.


Thanks for all your hard work and the valuable resources you make available to the group.


Angelika Groenbeck






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If so, could you go to this older link-list document and check for broken links or possibly suggest some of your own



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Are you worried about smoke on your hike?

 

If so, could you go to this older link-list document and check for broken links or possibly suggest some of your own



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JMT Files and Links (curated by the moderators) hosted in a Google Drive Folder - please explore #file-notice

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The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

Ryan Rankin, Inga Aksamit and I, with help from some others, moved these old Yahoo file folders to a Google Drive folder shared with the?Facebook?groups and open to the public via any search engine.? Ryan removed outdated and duplicate files and reorganized the remaining, selected files into a logical folder structure. This work was done several years ago and is working well.
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Find that folder at?
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It is a rich resource and I hope you will explore it.


Re: Ned Tibbits and others are joining me for the new multi-contributor trailcrant & survey data site HikeTheSierraNevada.com #JMTsurvey

 

On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 06:42 AM, John Ladd wrote:
except Ned tidbits

An autocorrect error?


Re: Ned Tibbits and others are joining me for the new multi-contributor trailcrant & survey data site HikeTheSierraNevada.com #JMTsurvey

 

Hey Ravi. I hadn't thought about RSS feeds although I know what they are I've never used one. Should be a good way to follow what we do. Since we have such a large number of contributors I think we might be able to crank out a post a day. I even got Elizabeth Wenk's daughter to say that she would write a post about the experience of hiking as a 9-year-old a substantial part of the JMT but they're very able parents and her 7-year-old sister. That should be a classic.

Now that I've said something about it, hopefully I've locked her in. She sounds like a really good writer and kind of likes the 1300 word limit that we plan to have for everyone except Ned tidbits who's writing is very entertaining, informative but has the flavor of something called around a campfire.
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John Curran Ladd
San Francisco, CA?
415-648-9279


Re: Ned Tibbits and others are joining me for the new multi-contributor trailcrant & survey data site HikeTheSierraNevada.com #JMTsurvey

 



Just use the link in the email. There's no charge. We really feel strongly that we should not monetize the site. When I was telling people about the survey I promised that I would never monetize it and the site will have a lot about the survey. See the about section of the site for more detail



n Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 01:56 PM, Adam Bearson wrote:

How do we subscribe?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Ladd <johnladd@...>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 10:52:26 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Special] [JMT-groups.io] Ned Tibbits and others are joining me for the new multi-contributor trailcrant & survey data site HikeTheSierraNevada.com #JMTsurvey
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How can we best serve you? Our new site is at the beta test stage for now, but we hope to post almost daily starting soon with multiple hiker-contributors who, like Ned Tibbits, have many 100's of days in the backcountry or who can contribute their specialized expertise in practical, actionable data analysis and presentation. https://hikethesierranevada.com/

See also Ned's bio -- master PCT hiker and our first "staff" contributor. He will focus on trailcraft in May -- his "Secret Season", and in June and October (the least safe months).

Special Thanks to John Dittli who allowed us to use his great picture of the 1917 Muir Rock.?
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John Curran Ladd
San Francisco, CA?
415-648-9279

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San Francisco, CA?
415-648-9279


Re: Ned Tibbits and others are joining me for the new multi-contributor trailcrant & survey data site HikeTheSierraNevada.com #JMTsurvey

 

I use Feedly, a RSS feed reader app, to follow new posts on blogs. It worked when I added this one. Looking forward fo following!


Re: Ned Tibbits and others are joining me for the new multi-contributor trailcrant & survey data site HikeTheSierraNevada.com #JMTsurvey

 

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How do we subscribe?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Ladd <johnladd@...>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 10:52:26 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Special] [JMT-groups.io] Ned Tibbits and others are joining me for the new multi-contributor trailcrant & survey data site HikeTheSierraNevada.com #JMTsurvey
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How can we best serve you? Our new site is at the beta test stage for now, but we hope to post almost daily starting soon with multiple hiker-contributors who, like Ned Tibbits, have many 100's of days in the backcountry or who can contribute their specialized expertise in practical, actionable data analysis and presentation. https://hikethesierranevada.com/

See also Ned's bio -- master PCT hiker and our first "staff" contributor. He will focus on trailcraft in May -- his "Secret Season", and in June and October (the least safe months).

Special Thanks to John Dittli who allowed us to use his great picture of the 1917 Muir Rock.?
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John Curran Ladd
San Francisco, CA?
415-648-9279


Ned Tibbits and others are joining me for the new multi-contributor trailcrant & survey data site HikeTheSierraNevada.com #JMTsurvey

 

How can we best serve you? Our new site is at the beta test stage for now, but we hope to post almost daily starting soon with multiple hiker-contributors who, like Ned Tibbits, have many 100's of days in the backcountry or who can contribute their specialized expertise in practical, actionable data analysis and presentation. https://hikethesierranevada.com/

See also Ned's bio -- master PCT hiker and our first "staff" contributor. He will focus on trailcraft in May -- his "Secret Season", and in June and October (the least safe months).

Special Thanks to John Dittli who allowed us to use his great picture of the 1917 Muir Rock.?
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John Curran Ladd
San Francisco, CA?
415-648-9279


JMT SOBO profile planner v4.xlsx - A great planning tool! #food

 

Howdy,

I used the "JMT SOBO profile planner v4.xlsx" file from the "Planning and Transportation" folder this evening to get a preliminary plan together.? Wow, what a tool!? Even though it does not appear to have been updated in 6 or 7 years, it is still very functional.? I marked the resupply points in red at the bottom.

Being able to easily print out the topographic profile with estimated campsites is very cool/helpful.

Thanks!


May-June starts in a dry (?) year - advice from consolidated snow guru Ned Tibbits #gear #Trailcraft #Classics #Conditions

 

Ned posted this on one of the facebook group. My comment there is appended at the end of his post.
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For eager-to-start JMT thru-hikers thinking there won't be any snow on the trail and the weather will be perfect now or in May:

Don't enter the Sierra just yet!

I know this post is late, as the storm is nearly upon us (here, in the Sierra), but I've been busy dreaming of and working toward a rebirth of Mountain Education, Inc., for all of you.

Back to the message:

"A Loss of Winter's Flow oft brings Spring Snow!"

This is not a forecast nor a prediction, but what I'm seeing, though bizarre, is typical Sierra weather after drought winters...so be prepared for late season snow this year.

Back in the '80s, we first started getting "drought" or low-snow winters to the extent that ski areas up and down the Sierra had to begin investing in snow-making equipment, if they wanted to stay in business!

That was, coincidentally, when I first started the wilderness school, Mountain Education, to teach you guys and girls to be wilderness-aware and, thus, safer out there. I've spent many a May and June along the PCT/JMT at altitude after drought winters since then and have had snow storms blanket my 4-season tent with 4-inches to 3-feet of the white stuff.

Now, I don't know what is going to happen this year, but what the Jetstream is doing right now, bringing into the West more low pressure systems with varying amounts of moisture, is typical and not unusual. Let me show you,

This year's miserable winter:

December = Major snow
January = Dry
February = Dry (leading LD PCT/JMT hikers into a possible false sense of weather security)
March = the weather door cracked open with a teaser storm or two
April = there could be more teasers or major dumpage! (read on)

A little personal perspective on Sierra weather history (I am not a statistician, so this is from my observations living there since the '60s).

Classically, (prior to the '80s) winter rolled in this kind of monthly pattern:

November = the door cracked open
December = Dumpage
January = commonly dry
February = moderate dumpage
March = moderate dumpage
April = the weather door starts closing
May = further decreased storm frequency and volume
June = Thaw and approach to summer

Takeaway: What I want hikers to see, here, is that the Lion of Winter, typically, came in with a roar, took a nap, woke up and walked around camp with a roar or two, then just to wandered off for the summer.
In essence, that is what has happened this winter, but the guy took a longer nap.

Moral of the story: The old Winter Lion may still have a roar or two left to declare, based on this pattern, so don't enter the Sierra too early (before May) and think that you won't get any rain or snow! Don't be fooled by 3 months of dry weather in the middle of winter. After drought winters, the Sierra can still throw at you plenty of deep snow to pin you down and ruin your plans!

Advice to JMT thru who may have "early" (May-June) start permits:

Don't discredit what could - and has - happened in the past.

Be aware, mindful, of trends (the big picture) in the weather.

Learn to listen to the wilderness. It will tell you what's going to happen because you live with it every day and feel its changes.

Mountain weather can be local (small) or frontal (state-wide) and change on a hour's notice. Always put your senses out before you as you walk along the ascending trail and be aware of air and animal's changes all around you.

Don't let your optimism and enthusiasm blind you to the warning signs. Take this sensory data in daily, compare it to previous days' and grow wiser for it.

Carry what is needed to keep you safe, if the snow-hits-the- fan at altitude while you're far from nearby trailheads!

Never get wet in a cold environment!

It is far wiser over the long walk to stay in your tent for a day or two during bad weather and preserve your precious heat and dryness, than to rush ahead and suffer from the unseen.

Hang onto your microspikes, snow baskets, and SA (self-arrest) tools until 4 weeks past the start of the local Thaw, wherever you are. All it takes is a patch of steep snow to send you into the rocks below!

Remember, snow lingers in the shade and on the north sides of ridges and peaks.

Falls are minimized by increased traction and assured balance (traction devices and poles with snow baskets). Don't leave dry trail without them!

Original post and discussion:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JohnMuirTrail/posts/10159050589013981/?__cft__[0]=AZUYrN1e9E0ACH0NiTnWWmdQW6QwMcD_66SpZ5waBPvQ4UHZK58FRrWDC3zBJaEBlFPkkRgur8v5Vt1X__tq5GAUwKq77T7jC4eoIg6z6dt3UMDbh3_0c-pEpV6nKvdvo2JcQ_1HEqNNBsz_zAeVmC6N&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R
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My comment there:?
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Thanks, Ned. You are my go-to guy for all things related to the Secret Season (May) and the time when the most hikers come closest to dying (June).?
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Any interest in becoming an unpaid staff contributor to the multi-contributor blog that Teddy Yeh, Charlie Rowan and I are working on?
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A very good heads-up for those folks who were understandably pleased to get their Golden ticket in December for May or in January for June! If people want to head into the Sierra at those usually challenging times need to be prepared mentally and with appropriate gear for what they may well encounter.
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Teddy has piloted a blog-style webpage already and Charlie and I have worked on a set of aspirations for the blog. See https://hikethesierranevada.com/another-hiking-blog/.
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We may start with the Classic discussion threads from the old Yahoo group and edit them down to facilitate quick, informative reads. /g/JMT/search?tag=214153 (membership welcome but not required).
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As usual with JMT hiker groups, we have a lot of potential contributors. Collectively they can offer (1) backcountry wisdom or (2) Survey data analysis and presentation skills, or (3) both.

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John Curran Ladd
San Francisco, CA?
415-648-9279


Re: Colorado trail group

 

Pmags.com has an excellent CT guide.? I did the CT a few years ago and would highly recommend the Collegiates West option.?

https://pmags.com/colorado-trail-end-to-end-guide-2

Judy McGuire


Re: Colorado trail group

 

Thank you to those of you who responded, it was a shot in the dark and yet I got some great replies. Thanks Alan


Re: [John Muir Trail] Specific stream crossings/potential hazards #Conditions #Classics

 

Note that these crossings are often hard in May and June, even in drought years like 2016, resulting in a lot of "Plan B" hikes.

For 2017 Plan B rates by early vs. middle-late see /g/JMT/topic/40588890

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John Curran Ladd
San Francisco, CA?
415-648-9279


Re: Colorado trail group

 

Oh, I also did some Colorado Trail research last year for a shorter loop called the 'Collegiate Loop'. I ended up not doing much of the Colorado Trail (I got 14er fever and ended up focusing on climbing nine of them), but some of my trip info may help you:


Re: Colorado trail group

 

14ers.com is a good resource, although focused on Colorado 14ers, they pretty much are good for any Colorado info.


Re: Colorado trail group

 

There is also a FB group for the CT.?

On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 5:26 AM ravi_jmt2013 <ravi@...> wrote:
I’m not aware of any group like this one for the Colorado Trail. The Colorado Trail Foundation (?has a lot of good information and there’s also a Colorado trail forum on WhiteBlaze. I thru hiked the CT and could answer questions although my hike was in 2014 and things may have changed with services, etc. I view the CT, especially the Collegiate Loop, as a nice JMT alternative.?