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Re: Major bridge outage reported on Facebook #Conditions


 

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Ravi,
Whether continued entrance interrupted by the road will be allowed remain to be seen.
That if not it will send hundreds of people into uncharted terrains - for sure. Worse even - this is the year when all that is the most dangerous situation one could think of. People saving weigh without traction devises, or not knowing how to use it… when there wouldn’t be “ boot tracks” as one must make his own path and no “ FarOut” guidance over “ normally ?existing” trail is. Many state that they launch on JMT as their first serious long range backpacking and going over snowy talus can be deadly if you don’t know how and even if you do.
I remember undergoing very rigorous interview with Sierra club leaders when signing for guided trip over Palisades high alpine terrain and farther into Muir Pass area.
Some have no idea what those “ detours” mean in terms of mileage combined with suncups, ice sheets, postholing and getting stuck between snow and large boulders when sun creates sort of tunnels around them and EG with huge pack.
I recall someone dying August 24th I think on Mather in 2019 on a very last patch of snow … I was there earlier and Mather certainly is not as uncharted as any of the suggested cols.
Lizzy’s and Ned’s info is extraordinary, but those people are Gods of backcountry. With lifelong navigational knowledge.
I should ask our dear John Ladd to state a % of people who are basically first timers on that terrain based on his survey.
Bishop pass permits are booked solid into September with 60% released.
We shall see a war over other 40% remaining I imagine.
I hope we won’t see voluminous SOS calls and SAR reports. But…
My far more than 2 cents ??

Karina Bezkrovnaia

On Apr 22, 2023, at 10:38, Marion Davison <mardav@...> wrote:

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I have done the Tyee hike and it's quite doable and scenic, as described in my earlier email.? Good solution for those who want to avoid a lotta road walking, hitching or arranging a shuttle.??

On Apr 22, 2023 10:23 AM, ravi_jmt2013 <ravi@...> wrote:

The option of going over Piute Pass to North Lake and then going from South Lake over Bishop Pass certainly seems like the safest option, and it could even be done with either a road walk or via Tyee Lakes (I’ve never done the Tyee Lakes hike) for those who want a continuous footprint hike…

But will the rangers allow for this option on the same wilderness permit? I suspect not. This definitely doesn’t seem like a good year for risky options for those not used to off trail travel and crossing without that bridge seems like a total nonstarter especially this year….


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