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Re: Can I test a new version of Ham-PC for you?

 

I did the very same thing usig a ASUS version of the same system.? What I had to do is clone the existing version of HAMPc to? flash drive 32Gb or 64 Gb and then use the flash drive to clone HAMPc to the EMMC on the laptop.? Mine work wonderfully.

73
Herbert
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Re: Can I test a new version of Ham-PC for you?

 

I'd like to join in offering to test - I have two of those Evolve's and can easily give one over to testing.


On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 2:58 PM K0MKS <mikehoskins+js8call_groupsio@...> wrote:
I bought a couple of super cheap Evolve III (version 4) laptops at our local Microcenter - $59.99 for a quad-core Celeron, 4G RAM, 64G SSD (Windows 10 Pro is included, but I am a Linux guy, anyway.)

Is there an Intel image for the new 3.x Ham-PC I can test for you? I'm pretty sure there is a modification needed to be done for the Evolve?III, concerning WiFi and audio out (instructions on the Internet).

These machines also run on 12V power and are a complete machine for $59.99 (plus tax, no rebates required):
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I think these are an excellent alternative to the Raspberry Pi, during these shortages.

Thanks!
Mike Hoskins, K0MKS


Can I test a new version of Ham-PC for you?

 

I bought a couple of super cheap Evolve III (version 4) laptops at our local Microcenter - $59.99 for a quad-core Celeron, 4G RAM, 64G SSD (Windows 10 Pro is included, but I am a Linux guy, anyway.)

Is there an Intel image for the new 3.x Ham-PC I can test for you? I'm pretty sure there is a modification needed to be done for the Evolve?III, concerning WiFi and audio out (instructions on the Internet).

These machines also run on 12V power and are a complete machine for $59.99 (plus tax, no rebates required):
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I think these are an excellent alternative to the Raspberry Pi, during these shortages.

Thanks!
Mike Hoskins, K0MKS


Re: HamPC on a Chromebook??

 

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 05:43 PM, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote:
I have a $56 used Chromebook on order from Newegg and when they finally ship it, I will see what is needed to get HamPC on there.
Dave,

Mine was waiting for me? when I got home last night. Ordered Sunday received Wednesday. Put it on charge and, inspected, Mine had 1 "smudge" not a scratch that you could detect with a finger nail on the outside top cover, length 1/2 inch, and another above the keyboard, I didn't see till this morning Again smaller than 1/2 inch. That I can feel with my finger nail. FYI my board is SETZER, one of the "approved" for Linux conversion.? Screen is perfect, keyboard is clean and has a nice feel. Power pack was Brand New..

I never played with Chrome, co I am debating if I want to dual boot... or blow it away and got to LINUX.. I have Linux MINT running on a $99 refurbished HP workstation from Newegg, I ahve had for 2-3 years. ?

I am at the point right now, checking out thumb drives I have lying around. Backing them up to my 4Tb NAS and trying to figure out if I need 8 or 16 GB? thumb drives to perform my conversion.? I have 2 sandisk 64Gb micro SD's available form buying a 3pack on sale.

Need to read more about 3 flavors of MINT... I m linked here:


Cinnamon The most modern, innovative and full-featured desktop
MATE A more traditional, and faster desktop
Xfce The most lightweight desktop

I will probably try MATE...
Mint is closest and easiest to transition from Windows to Linux. It's GUI resembles W7 or W10.
Have you decided on a Distro?? David, W1HKJ, said on his conversion on linuxham on groups.io? He was running MINT 20.3 but not which one....

I will keep everyone posted.. Right now clearly this is big bang for the buck versus unavailability of RPI's of any flavor.
Final comment. I ordered 2 ORANGE PI's from Aliexpress maybe a month ago.. The plastic case came, no ORANGE PIs yet..

Larry W8LM


Re: HamPC on a Chromebook??

 

Thank you for the warm reception! Looking forward to attending again whether it's in person or via Zoom.

73,

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 7:05 PM N4WHM- Bill <mcgee.william@...> wrote:
Thanks Dave. ? It was good to?see you Tuesday night in Athens at ARC.? Come back anytime. ?

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 18:43 Dave Slotter, W3DJS <slotter@...> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 06:42 PM, N4WHM- Bill wrote:
I have an Acer Chromebook. Has anyone loaded this up on a chromebook? Any pointers.?
Hi Bill,

I have a $56 used Chromebook on order from Newegg and when they finally ship it, I will see what is needed to get HamPC on there.
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Re: HamPC on a Chromebook??

 

Thanks Dave. ? It was good to?see you Tuesday night in Athens at ARC.? Come back anytime. ?

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 18:43 Dave Slotter, W3DJS <slotter@...> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 06:42 PM, N4WHM- Bill wrote:
I have an Acer Chromebook. Has anyone loaded this up on a chromebook? Any pointers.?
Hi Bill,

I have a $56 used Chromebook on order from Newegg and when they finally ship it, I will see what is needed to get HamPC on there.
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Re: HamPC on a Chromebook??

 

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 06:42 PM, N4WHM- Bill wrote:
I have an Acer Chromebook. Has anyone loaded this up on a chromebook? Any pointers.?
Hi Bill,

I have a $56 used Chromebook on order from Newegg and when they finally ship it, I will see what is needed to get HamPC on there.
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HamPC on a Chromebook??

 

I have an Acer Chromebook. Has anyone loaded this up on a chromebook? Any pointers.?

Thanks, Bill \ N4WHM


Re: How to use the iso download

 

Ok, we¡¯ll a little confused about which program to download in the list? I chose the xz? Is this correct?

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On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 3:08 PM, Doug Reed via groups.io <n0nas@...> wrote:
Yup, I have a file like that. Did you check the SHA256 checksum to verify the download? It will probably be correct, but I've been wary about file downloads for many years now. I'll try writing it to a 32GB USB stick with Balena Etcher v1.5.122 on Win7. Balena says the expanded file being written is 17.2GB. A slow write about 35 minutes, verify another 15 minutes.

My first boot attempt was an old HP 6710b laptop. It is non-UEFI and simply hung while reading the USB. I didn't wait more than a couple minutes. I installed gparted to the Linux Mint 20.3 OS on the laptop. That showed me a 512MB UEFI boot partition and a large protected partition containing the HamPC OS on the USB stick. A later boot attempt went to blank screen and I finally shut it off 15 minutes later.

My second boot attempt was a HP T630 thin client. The first attempt recognized the UEFI and said something about making changes. Several minutes later it went to a blank screen. I let it run for several more minutes then forced shut off. A second boot attempt showed Xbuntu for a while then some boot status lines, and finally back to a blank screen. Several minutes later it finally started showing the GUI screen and then quickly loaded the main window with HamPC logo. I'm guessing the USB stick I'm using is extremely slow but it did finally start and run. This also seems to indicate the OS will boot if used on a UEFI-aware computer but not if non-UEFI......

73, Doug Reed, N0NAS.
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Re: How to use the iso download

 

Yup, I have a file like that. Did you check the SHA256 checksum to verify the download? It will probably be correct, but I've been wary about file downloads for many years now. I'll try writing it to a 32GB USB stick with Balena Etcher v1.5.122 on Win7. Balena says the expanded file being written is 17.2GB. A slow write about 35 minutes, verify another 15 minutes.

My first boot attempt was an old HP 6710b laptop. It is non-UEFI and simply hung while reading the USB. I didn't wait more than a couple minutes. I installed gparted to the Linux Mint 20.3 OS on the laptop. That showed me a 512MB UEFI boot partition and a large protected partition containing the HamPC OS on the USB stick. A later boot attempt went to blank screen and I finally shut it off 15 minutes later.

My second boot attempt was a HP T630 thin client. The first attempt recognized the UEFI and said something about making changes. Several minutes later it went to a blank screen. I let it run for several more minutes then forced shut off. A second boot attempt showed Xbuntu for a while then some boot status lines, and finally back to a blank screen. Several minutes later it finally started showing the GUI screen and then quickly loaded the main window with HamPC logo. I'm guessing the USB stick I'm using is extremely slow but it did finally start and run. This also seems to indicate the OS will boot if used on a UEFI-aware computer but not if non-UEFI......

73, Doug Reed, N0NAS.
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Re: no boot

 

Oops, it comes from a previous post of mine -?/g/HamPC/message/86

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I don't know if this is still something people want to discuss, but I just got HamPC 1.2b booted up on a PC -- 2, actually.

Of course, it's named an "iso" but really should be an "img" or "bin" or something else, since it's a hard disk image.

First uncompress with XZ:
??xz -d HamPC_v1.2b_rc1.iso.xz

Then, I plugging in my USB device and looked for if with fdisk
? fdisk -l

I saw it on /dev/sdc (had a /dev/sdc1 partition)

I followed the steps from??-
??dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=1024 count=1440
? dd if=HamPC_v1.2b_rc1.iso?of=/dev/sdc count=512 conv=notrunc

I then tried to boot it, but no luck...

Later, I found out my machine was not set to boot up an EFI partition, just legacy BIOS. (I think USB boot was also disables, IIRC.)

I enabled EFI and it worked. It also worked on a second machine that allowed EFI and USB boot options.

My next goal is to put it in VirtualBox. So far, I can't get VBoxManage to convert the whole drive into a VDI or a VMDK. (I'm still working on it, though.)


Re: no boot

 

I didn¡¯t see the step by step, and yes 64bit

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On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 11:41 AM, K0MKS <mikehoskins+js8call_groupsio@...> wrote:
Is it a 64-bit Intel or AMD (AMD 64) laptop or desktop, where you are trying to run it? Can you follow those steps I sent, to create a USB bootable? (Be careful where "dd" is written to, since you probably don't want to overwrite your bootable disk.)

If it's an AMD or Intel machine, are UEFI and USB Boot enabled?

Not everyone has been able to make HamPC work.



Re: no boot

 

Is it a 64-bit Intel or AMD (AMD 64) laptop or desktop, where you are trying to run it? Can you follow those steps I sent, to create a USB bootable? (Be careful where "dd" is written to, since you probably don't want to overwrite your bootable disk.)

If it's an AMD or Intel machine, are UEFI and USB Boot enabled?

Not everyone has been able to make HamPC work.


Re: no boot

 


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On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 11:27 AM, K0MKS <mikehoskins+js8call_groupsio@...> wrote:
@PaulsSlotHobby19 -

I noticed from your first email that you said you were using Linux Rasbian.

Are you trying to install HamPC (v 1.2, for Intel and AMD Laptops and Desktops) or are you wanting to install HamPi (v 2.0, for Raspberry Pi's)?

The HamPC image (v1.2) is for UEFI-enabled Intel and AMI Laptops and Desktops. I was able to get it to run like this by creating a USB Bootable, from a Linux machine:
* /g/HamPC/message/86



Re: no boot

 

@PaulsSlotHobby19 -

I noticed from your first email that you said you were using Linux Rasbian.

Are you trying to install HamPC (v 1.2, for Intel and AMD Laptops and Desktops) or are you wanting to install HamPi (v 2.0, for Raspberry Pi's)?

The HamPC image (v1.2) is for UEFI-enabled Intel and AMI Laptops and Desktops. I was able to get it to run like this by creating a USB Bootable, from a Linux machine:
* /g/HamPC/message/86


JTDX

 

I would like to know how to load JTDX on linux, it just will not boot, package manager wont find it, and the JTDX site has it but it wont install on linux programs, and ive tried them all! any ideas W7PAU Paul


no boot

 

Hey fellows! ive tried alsmost ev erything with no luck with booting up the program, it still says cant find OS on the boot from usb tab.
any step by step plans of attack out there????
The program after i click on it gives me 2 choices, save or open with, i choose save and it downloads to my download folder as a zip file.
so i then use balena Etcher to copy to usb drive, then plug it in and boot to usb drive.
and then i get the message it does not find any OS?????
and of course it will not install or even boot???what the heck???? any ideas??? regards W7PAU Paul


Re: How to use the iso download

 

Doug this is the folder the download made to my download folder! Is this right???

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On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 9:57 AM, Doug Reed via groups.io <n0nas@...> wrote:
Hi Paul.

I can't tell from your message what the problem is.
Did you download the ISO archive to a Windows box?
I often worry about download errors, but if the file unzips without error the download was correct.
Did you expand the archive file on the Windows box using 7zip, as the instructions say to do?
Did you use a NTFS-formatted drive as the destination for the expanded file?
Did you write the resulting file to a 32GB USB drive using Balena Etcher or Win32 Disk Imager?
If you did all this, then the resulting OS should probably boot.?

When I first downloaded the ISO, I was using a Linux system as you are and I could not get the ISO to work. It made no sense that I couldn't expand the file on Linux since it is using a version of 7zip for Linux. After being advised to follow the directions, I moved the archived file to a Win7 laptop, installed 7zip, verified I had a hard drive formatted as NTFS, and unzipped the file to that drive. My first ISO write attempt was to a "16GB USB drive". It failed as being too small and wouldn't boot, so I tried again with a 32GB drive. It wrote and booted fine.?

What annoyed me most during this process was that none of the programs did a decent job of explaining what the errors were. The programs either worked or gave a vague and general error message. Only one program on Windows finally gave an error message with a hint of the problem. The root cause of my unzip problem on Linux is that the Windows version of 7zip has an extra high-level compression mode that the Linux version does not have. A secondary problem is that the expanded file exceeds the 4GB limit of FAT32 that most USB sticks seem to use. That is why a NTFS-formatted destination was required. The final problem with the 16GB USB drive was because the expanded ISO was originally from a drive just slightly larger than the one I was using. Changing to a 32GB drive solved that problem.

After all that, if you still have problems making it boot, I have to suggest it might be an issue of legacy USB boot drive, or my old favorite of systemd vs isolinux vs grub, now with added UEFI spice. I've never had good luck with boot problems other than trying different hardware. In this case you already. know the hardware works with Linux, so you don't need to fall back to my favorite of using a Knoppix DVD as Proof the hardware can boot Linux. I believe Dave has stopped using that extra compression mode so we should be able to expand future ISOs on Linux. Good luck!

73, Doug Reed, N0NAS.



Re: How to use the iso download

 

Thanks Doug for your time, that means a lot to me!
I used Balena and got the download from the internet program files, their is about 4 downloads there, I used the XZ file, with nothing telling me a mistake was made along the way, copied to a usb 64gb stick and it copied fine with no notable errors.
So I F12 the start and booted to the stick, it showed that it was there and went forward, but it did not have a boot command I guess on the stick because it said no OS to boot from or to. Perplexed and regards W7PAU Paul

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On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 9:57 AM, Doug Reed via groups.io <n0nas@...> wrote:
Hi Paul.

I can't tell from your message what the problem is.
Did you download the ISO archive to a Windows box?
I often worry about download errors, but if the file unzips without error the download was correct.
Did you expand the archive file on the Windows box using 7zip, as the instructions say to do?
Did you use a NTFS-formatted drive as the destination for the expanded file?
Did you write the resulting file to a 32GB USB drive using Balena Etcher or Win32 Disk Imager?
If you did all this, then the resulting OS should probably boot.?

When I first downloaded the ISO, I was using a Linux system as you are and I could not get the ISO to work. It made no sense that I couldn't expand the file on Linux since it is using a version of 7zip for Linux. After being advised to follow the directions, I moved the archived file to a Win7 laptop, installed 7zip, verified I had a hard drive formatted as NTFS, and unzipped the file to that drive. My first ISO write attempt was to a "16GB USB drive". It failed as being too small and wouldn't boot, so I tried again with a 32GB drive. It wrote and booted fine.?

What annoyed me most during this process was that none of the programs did a decent job of explaining what the errors were. The programs either worked or gave a vague and general error message. Only one program on Windows finally gave an error message with a hint of the problem. The root cause of my unzip problem on Linux is that the Windows version of 7zip has an extra high-level compression mode that the Linux version does not have. A secondary problem is that the expanded file exceeds the 4GB limit of FAT32 that most USB sticks seem to use. That is why a NTFS-formatted destination was required. The final problem with the 16GB USB drive was because the expanded ISO was originally from a drive just slightly larger than the one I was using. Changing to a 32GB drive solved that problem.

After all that, if you still have problems making it boot, I have to suggest it might be an issue of legacy USB boot drive, or my old favorite of systemd vs isolinux vs grub, now with added UEFI spice. I've never had good luck with boot problems other than trying different hardware. In this case you already. know the hardware works with Linux, so you don't need to fall back to my favorite of using a Knoppix DVD as Proof the hardware can boot Linux. I believe Dave has stopped using that extra compression mode so we should be able to expand future ISOs on Linux. Good luck!

73, Doug Reed, N0NAS.



Re: How to use the iso download

 

Hi Paul.

I can't tell from your message what the problem is.
Did you download the ISO archive to a Windows box?
I often worry about download errors, but if the file unzips without error the download was correct.
Did you expand the archive file on the Windows box using 7zip, as the instructions say to do?
Did you use a NTFS-formatted drive as the destination for the expanded file?
Did you write the resulting file to a 32GB USB drive using Balena Etcher or Win32 Disk Imager?
If you did all this, then the resulting OS should probably boot.?

When I first downloaded the ISO, I was using a Linux system as you are and I could not get the ISO to work. It made no sense that I couldn't expand the file on Linux since it is using a version of 7zip for Linux. After being advised to follow the directions, I moved the archived file to a Win7 laptop, installed 7zip, verified I had a hard drive formatted as NTFS, and unzipped the file to that drive. My first ISO write attempt was to a "16GB USB drive". It failed as being too small and wouldn't boot, so I tried again with a 32GB drive. It wrote and booted fine.?

What annoyed me most during this process was that none of the programs did a decent job of explaining what the errors were. The programs either worked or gave a vague and general error message. Only one program on Windows finally gave an error message with a hint of the problem. The root cause of my unzip problem on Linux is that the Windows version of 7zip has an extra high-level compression mode that the Linux version does not have. A secondary problem is that the expanded file exceeds the 4GB limit of FAT32 that most USB sticks seem to use. That is why a NTFS-formatted destination was required. The final problem with the 16GB USB drive was because the expanded ISO was originally from a drive just slightly larger than the one I was using. Changing to a 32GB drive solved that problem.

After all that, if you still have problems making it boot, I have to suggest it might be an issue of legacy USB boot drive, or my old favorite of systemd vs isolinux vs grub, now with added UEFI spice. I've never had good luck with boot problems other than trying different hardware. In this case you already. know the hardware works with Linux, so you don't need to fall back to my favorite of using a Knoppix DVD as Proof the hardware can boot Linux. I believe Dave has stopped using that extra compression mode so we should be able to expand future ISOs on Linux. Good luck!

73, Doug Reed, N0NAS.