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Re: HT-32 filters


 
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This makes sense.? A friend has the 32A, I have listed and watched its signal for years on scope.? It's always been super wide and always had some buckshot.? I assumed it was modified.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jeff AC0C via groups.io <keepwalking188@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2024 11:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [HallicraftersRadios] HT-32 filters
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It does not make a material impact on the transmitted bandwidth in my testing.? I certainly would be interested to see if someone else has looked at the transmit bandwidth on their units.? Maybe there is something wrong with my HT-32A.


Regarding CR2, that seems more of a leveling action and has no sharpness by way of roll off at all.? And per 7-16 Crystal Filter Alignment item 3, it says "transmitter output should not drop BELOW 3dB at the extremes of the audio passband (650-3Khz).? My claim is that there is no mechanism in the rig that provides a meaningful roll off above 3 Khz beyond a small number of dB per octave.


The measurements I published on the reflector May 10 2023 had this data:


8.7K @ -12 dB from peak amplitude (yellow trace)

6.8K @ -12 dB from peak amplitude (green trace)


So yes, there is a roll off.? But from a crystal BPF standpoint, the HT-32A I measured is really really wide by comparison.? I would be very interested in someone else making a similar measurement on their rig for a sanity check.?

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On 4/2/2024 1:23 PM, waltcates wrote:
CR2 is the passband filter. Its adjustment is C121.


Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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From:?[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jeff AC0C <keepwalking188@...>
Sent:?Tuesday, April 2, 2024 11:53 AM
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Subject:?Re: [HallicraftersRadios] HT-32 filters
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That's true Walt.? But if you sweep these filters, they don't provide passband attenuation on the transmitted sideband.? They do a fine job on the carrier and the opposite sideband, but don't do anything for the occupied bandwidth of the transmitted signal.


I actually could not believe this was the case - and to that end, completely disassembled the filter modules on a spare HT-32 I had to check out what the SA was showing me.? I have plots & photos of that exercise around here somewhere if someone is interested.?

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On 4/2/2024 11:22 AM, waltcates wrote:
The 32 actually has 3 filters CR2, FL1 and FL2?





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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>?on behalf of Jeff AC0C <keepwalking188@...>
Sent:?Tuesday, April 2, 2024 10:56 AM
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Subject:?Re: [HallicraftersRadios] SR 150
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The HT-32 has no BPF in the classic sense.? Just some L/C type providing a pretty gentle roll off.?

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On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, Rick W4XA wrote:
The Drake TR-4 came with 2.1 kHz filters.? I replaced them in mine with the aftermarket Inrad 2.5kHz filters.

Not only do I get much better reports on the air but the receive fidelity is a LOT easier to listen to!
I get great audio reports with my HT-32B.? I think it's got a 3kHz filter in it?


I couldn't find the filter specs in the SR-400 manual.? I guess they really don't say what the BW? is. but it would seem to be somewhere around 2.3-2.5 kHz based on the shift in the carrier frequencies?? I guess the only way to know for sure would be to "sweep" it.


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