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3" disks for 8566A/B, 8568A/B on HP 9000 Series 200 Computers - Any interest in images?


 

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Hello Forum,
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I think I posted this before but no harm in bumping...
Together with an HP8568B, I got a number of 3?-inch disks:
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85863-10027 Rev C : 85863A Opt 630 Basic Software Library
08568-10004 Rev A: HP 8568B Spectrum Analyzer Operation Verification
08568-10004 Rev A: BASIC Operation Verification for 8568B
85863-10027 Rev B: 85863A Basic Software Library for 8566A and 8568A Opt 630.
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All disks (C) 1984 and two of them marked "For HP 9000 Series 200 Computers with Basic 2.0 or 3.0 O/S
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Any interest in images? I do not know if any data remains on them.
If so, How to read and make images on a PC running XP or W7?
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Cheers
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Ulf Kylenfall
SM6GXV
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On 3/12/25 12:35, Ulf Kylenfall via groups.io wrote:
Hello Forum,
I think I posted this before but no harm in bumping...
Together with an HP8568B, I got a number of 3?-inch disks:
85863-10027 Rev C : 85863A Opt 630 Basic Software Library
08568-10004 Rev A: HP 8568B Spectrum Analyzer Operation Verification
08568-10004 Rev A: BASIC Operation Verification for 8568B
85863-10027 Rev B: 85863A Basic Software Library for 8566A and 8568A Opt 630.
All disks (C) 1984 and two of them marked "For HP 9000 Series 200 Computers with Basic 2.0 or 3.0 O/S
Any interest in images? I do not know if any data remains on them.
If so, How to read and make images on a PC running XP or W7?
I'd love to have images of those disks. No clue of how to do it with Windows. I use a GreaseWeazle and/or a PC running DOS (DOS, not "a DOS window", to allow direct disk controller register access) with imaging tools.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


 

On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 5:35?PM Ulf Kylenfall via groups.io
<ulf_r_k@...> wrote:


Hello Forum,

I think I posted this before but no harm in bumping...
Together with an HP8568B, I got a number of 3?-inch disks:

85863-10027 Rev C : 85863A Opt 630 Basic Software Library
08568-10004 Rev A: HP 8568B Spectrum Analyzer Operation Verification
08568-10004 Rev A: BASIC Operation Verification for 8568B
85863-10027 Rev B: 85863A Basic Software Library for 8566A and 8568A Opt 630.

All disks (C) 1984 and two of them marked "For HP 9000 Series 200 Computers with Basic 2.0 or 3.0 O/S

Any interest in images? I do not know if any data remains on them.
If so, How to read and make images on a PC running XP or W7?
I'd recommend a greaseweazle board. It's an USB tool that can directly
control a PC floppy disk drive and get a flux-level image of (almost)
any disk.

HTH
Frank IZ8DWF


 

Hello,

You can use the LIF Utils. Latest release 2.0 was in Dec 2024 and it was
tested on Win10 and Win11.



Please read the changes for the 2.0 release.

73,
Razvan

On 12/03/2025 17:35, Ulf Kylenfall via groups.io wrote:
Hello Forum,
I think I posted this before but no harm in bumping...
Together with an HP8568B, I got a number of 3?-inch disks:
85863-10027 Rev C : 85863A Opt 630 Basic Software Library
08568-10004 Rev A: HP 8568B Spectrum Analyzer Operation Verification
08568-10004 Rev A: BASIC Operation Verification for 8568B
85863-10027 Rev B: 85863A Basic Software Library for 8566A and 8568A Opt
630.
All disks (C) 1984 and two of them marked "For HP 9000 Series 200
Computers with Basic 2.0 or 3.0 O/S
Any interest in images? I do not know if any data remains on them.
If so, How to read and make images on a PC running XP or W7?
Cheers
Ulf Kylenfall
SM6GXV


 

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Tried the Github version v2.0.0 as suggested. It could not read any of the disks
Tried Keysights LIFUtils. It could not even format a 3" floppy to LIF using XP or W10.
(Both O/S could read and format a floppy in Microsoft formats so the h/w is OK.)
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After at couple of hours I gave up.
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I think I can still have an old original HP 3 1/2 " floppy disk unit somewhere
with a GPIB interface. I also have a HP Z400 with a NI GPIB card used for KE5FX VNA utilities.
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Anyone that knows if there is software that can be used for reading out the contents
using GPIB?
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Now it is man against the machines...
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Ulf
SM6GXV
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Your PC must support 256 and 512 byte sectors and the number of sectors per track used by LIF formats to successfully read/write disks. “Super IO” chips that implement PS2 keyboard/mouse, IDE, a parallel and one or two serial ports plus a floppy interfaces should have no problem(usually 80486 and earlier Pentium). Somewhat newer systems that had the parallel port and floppy, serial/parallel/keyboard via the LPC interface also usually have no trouble(late 486 or earlier Pentium to later pentium maybe P2/P3 typically). Anything Pentium 4, core, core2 and newer you’re probably going to be out of luck. There might be some exceptions, like certain servers that had an LPC interface for a parallel port (for license dongles) that also happen to retain a floppy interface.

In principle, a USB device could support non DOS formats but most likely do not. There are some specialized hardware out there .. flux something or another intended to read raw media that could do the job via USB.

Something like an old D630, or more generally D600 to D630 and D800 to D830 that can have a floppy, CD-R, DVD or battery in a hot swap bay that’ll do it as well.


 

I am using an old Toshiba Portege 7200 laptop which has the slim floppy
drive in the docking station and it runs WinXP.

This laptop has a P3 CPU/128MB RAM/64GB PATA IDE SSD. Never had issues
with it reading/writing floppy disks.

I especially kept it for work with floppy disks and parallel port
communication.

On 16/03/2025 20:10, Ed Marciniak via groups.io wrote:
Your PC must support 256 and 512 byte sectors and the number of sectors
per track used by LIF formats to successfully read/write disks. “Super
IO” chips that implement PS2 keyboard/mouse, IDE, a parallel and one or
two serial ports plus a floppy interfaces should have no problem(usually
80486 and earlier Pentium). Somewhat newer systems that had the parallel
port and floppy, serial/parallel/keyboard via the LPC interface also
usually have no trouble(late 486 or earlier Pentium to later pentium
maybe P2/P3 typically). Anything Pentium 4, core, core2 and newer you’re
probably going to be out of luck. There might be some exceptions, like
certain servers that had an LPC interface for a parallel port (for
license dongles) that also happen to retain a floppy interface.

In principle, a USB device could support non DOS formats but most likely
do not. There are some specialized hardware out there .. flux something
or another intended to read raw media that could do the job via USB.

Something like an old D630, or more generally D600 to D630 and D800 to
D830 that can have a floppy, CD-R, DVD or battery in a hot swap bay
that’ll do it as well.


 

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I used an old 9122 Disk drive. Was able to read the disks and uploaded
the zipped contents a few moments ago into the group files area:
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HP-200 Computer files used by 8566 and 8568 Spectrum analyzers ca 1984.
Folder names = Disk numbers. Read from a HP9122 disk drive, copied using
HPDIR project with TotalCommander. Files in original "PROG" or "ASCII" format.
I looked for ways to convert them into Windows .TXT format but ran out of energy...
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It would be interesting if someone managed to check the integrity of the files
and of course - if they are usable.
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Cheers
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Ulf
SM6GXV


 

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Hello Ulf,

The HP "ASCII" files can be converted to a Windows txt form with HPDIR. I wrote some time ago a small Windows utility that is doing this, also in batch mode (multiple files at once). I attached the 3 ASCII files from your first disk 08568-10004 (since they are small). In case it is interesting, the small program is available (I just don't want to fill the storage space of the group).

To save the binary HP PROG files, you have to load them in a HP RM Basic, and save them as ASCII (which can be converted to Windows txt format as above). This can be also done using Olivier Smet's? HP98x6 emulator and running a HP RM Basic on it on a Windows machine. The attached pdf file is describing the step by step procedure.

I will check during the week at least one-two of your PROG files for their integrity.

BR,

George/Gyorgy

On 3/17/2025 2:14 PM, Ulf Kylenfall via groups.io wrote:
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I used an old 9122 Disk drive. Was able to read the disks and uploaded
the zipped contents a few moments ago into the group files area:
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HP-200 Computer files used by 8566 and 8568 Spectrum analyzers ca 1984.
Folder names = Disk numbers. Read from a HP9122 disk drive, copied using
HPDIR project with TotalCommander. Files in original "PROG" or "ASCII" format.
I looked for ways to convert them into Windows .TXT format but ran out of energy...
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It would be interesting if someone managed to check the integrity of the files
and of course - if they are usable.
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Cheers
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Ulf
SM6GXV
-- 
Gy?rgy Albert
Mob +40-722-304534


 

Hi Ulf,

Thanks for the disks. If you find other similar disks please upload them
to the group files section.

73,
Razvan

On 17/03/2025 13:14, Ulf Kylenfall via groups.io wrote:
I used an old 9122 Disk drive. Was able to read the disks and uploaded
the zipped contents a few moments ago into the group files area:
HP-200 Computer files used by 8566 and 8568 Spectrum analyzers ca 1984.
Folder names = Disk numbers. Read from a HP9122 disk drive, copied using
HPDIR project with TotalCommander. Files in original "PROG" or "ASCII"
format.
I looked for ways to convert them into Windows .TXT format but ran out
of energy...
It would be interesting if someone managed to check the integrity of the
files
and of course - if they are usable.
Cheers
Ulf
SM6GXV