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Re: 85685A special cabling changes

 

Tim,
Yes, it is just straight-through and no termination (it's just the DC sweep signal, no RF).
George


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From: Tim Hughes <timhughes@...>
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Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: 85685A special cabling changes


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George,
?????????????? thank you for your clear reply.?
Unless it is really tight in there,it sounds like a simple mod,worth doing if you don't have the official cable.
I assume from your reply, the cable just connects straight through still, and there is no additional termination or anything.
Excellent.

Tim

--- On Sun, 3/17/13, G. <mailto:glkinst%40yahoo.com> wrote:

From: G. <mailto:glkinst%40yahoo.com>
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: 85685A special cabling changes
To: mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 17, 2013, 7:45 AM

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Tim,

You should be able to patch your bus interface cable (probably a 85662-60094). HSWP/OUT is pin 44 on the 50-pin, D-sub end of the cable. Just splice a wire for the SMA connection to the wire going to pin 44. Cover the splice with heat shrink and mount the SMA connector on the connector hood that does not have the label. The SMA needs to point down so it does not interfer with the RF bus cable. That's it.

-George

--- In mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com, Tim Hughes <timhughes@...> wrote:

Bill ,
?????????????? thanks for that information.
I guess there is a very small chance the original cable adapter pair, might not work with a newer instrument, but it seems pretty unlikely based on your usage.
Since these special cables can get to be pricey, it would be very useful to know if we could just patch in a coax connector to an existing cable,if we don't have the official cable.
Does anybody know if the coax tap, is just connected in parallel with one of the wires, so nothing needs to be cut,and if so to which connector pin???
Is there any changed termination/attenuation,?? required for that pin???
This should be relatively easy to test with an ohmmeter, for somebody who owns one and wanted to volunteer to add to the community knowledge base.
Tim
--- On Sat, 3/16/13, Bill Albert <billyatams@...> wrote:
From: Bill Albert <billyatams@...>
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: 85685A special cabling changes
To: "mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.comhpmailto:_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 6:21 AM
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The Spec An / Preselector combination does not work without the HSWP connection. There is an error that announces the lack of the connection and the instrument will not go beyond that point.
As far as the two cable types with the different HSWP pickoff, there is no apparent difference in the functionality or effect on measurement accuracy. I had a set of the 8574A cables that had the pickoff on the cable connector side and used that set for performance testing of all vintages of the system when the customer cables were not shipped with the unit.
Bill
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8690B in UK

 

I have an 8690B sweeper with an 8693A 3.5GHz to 6.75GHz plugin which I don't need and can't test (I don't have an SA). It is missing the tuning scale.

I would prefer that it went to a good home rather than the crusher, so I'm happy to let it go for a nominal charge (say GBP25?)

However it will he horribly expensive to ship as it is large and weighs 33kg (about 73lb). I have been quoted about GBP60 JUST for shipping to a mainland UK address and packaging would be on top of that. For this reason you should be thinking in terms of picking it up from Kenilworth in the UK.

If anyone is interested please let me know off line.

This is the last call before I send it for scrap.

Cheers
David Partridge


Re: HP 8563E spectrum analyser help needed

 

Hi,



The short may be a red Herring! Have you checked your 10Mhz reference?

If you pull the A15 board out you should be able to get a reference board id
eg.. 08590-60128 should give you a unique board reference..

I'll have a dig around and get back if I can..



Stuart..



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[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...] On Behalf Of g0fjy
Sent: 17 March 2013 20:12
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 8563E spectrum analyser help needed





Hello to the group. I have an 8563E spectrum analyser with what I strongly
suspect is a fault on the A15 board. There is no calibration output signal
on the front panel. The analyser shows multiple errors on start up and does
not display an input signal. I have delved inside with another spectrum
analyser. The 100MHz oscillator is running OK. No 300MHz or 600MHz output
from the multiplier chain. There is what looks like a small smt ceramic
package transistor with a marking of 0x. This is obviously an RF device. I
believe this could be my fault. The device is completely short circuit
across a couple of its active pins. The measured dc voltages do not make
much sense. I am trying to identify this device. I have a copy of the
service manual but no component level info. Here's hoping! Chris G0FJY


Re: 85685A special cabling changes

Tim Hughes
 

George,
?????????????? thank you for your clear reply.?
Unless it is really tight in there,it sounds like a simple mod,worth doing if you don't have the official cable.
I assume from your reply, the cable just connects straight through still, and there is no additional termination or anything.
Excellent.

Tim

--- On Sun, 3/17/13, G. <glkinst@...> wrote:

From: G. <glkinst@...>
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: 85685A special cabling changes
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Date: Sunday, March 17, 2013, 7:45 AM
















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Tim,

You should be able to patch your bus interface cable (probably a 85662-60094). HSWP/OUT is pin 44 on the 50-pin, D-sub end of the cable. Just splice a wire for the SMA connection to the wire going to pin 44. Cover the splice with heat shrink and mount the SMA connector on the connector hood that does not have the label. The SMA needs to point down so it does not interfer with the RF bus cable. That's it.

-George



--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Tim Hughes <timhughes@...> wrote:

Bill ,
?????????????? thanks for that information.
I guess there is a very small chance the original cable adapter pair, might not work with a newer instrument, but it seems pretty unlikely based on your usage.
Since these special cables can get to be pricey, it would be very useful to know if we could just patch in a coax connector to an existing cable,if we don't have the official cable.
Does anybody know if the coax tap, is just connected in parallel with one of the wires, so nothing needs to be cut,and if so to which connector pin???
Is there any changed termination/attenuation,?? required for that pin???
This should be relatively easy to test with an ohmmeter, for somebody who owns one and wanted to volunteer to add to the community knowledge base.
Tim
--- On Sat, 3/16/13, Bill Albert <billyatams@...> wrote:
From: Bill Albert <billyatams@...>
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: 85685A special cabling changes
To: "hp_agilent_equipment@[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 6:21 AM
??
The Spec An / Preselector combination does not work without the HSWP connection. There is an error that announces the lack of the connection and the instrument will not go beyond that point.
As far as the two cable types with the different HSWP pickoff, there is no apparent difference in the functionality or effect on measurement accuracy. I had a set of the 8574A cables that had the pickoff on the cable connector side and used that set for performance testing of all vintages of the system when the customer cables were not shipped with the unit.
Bill
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For Sale 4 each. 1164A Miniature Passive Probe, 10:1, 10 MOhm, 1.5 m

 

For Sale 4 each. 1164A Miniature Passive Probe, 10:1, 10 MOhm, 1.5 m

Model Number: 1164A
Type of probe: High impedance, passive
Bandwidth scope/probe system: 500 MHz
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$100 each plus shipping or $300 for all 4 and I'll pay shipping. Paypal
preferred.

David
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Re: 5335A (was: counter)

 

Well, I bought two 5335A at a surplus store. One worked, and the other didn't. This latter turned out to have 4 (four) 22uF 35V shorted tantalums in the input module. Replaced the tantalums and fixed.
Antonio I8IOV

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Christopher Brown <cbrown@...> wrote:


On 3/16/13 2:51 AM, jcline01@... wrote:

My experience is that only about 10% of the 5335A counters work out
of the box. The most common trouble has been the A3/A12 boards with
bad Schmitt amplifer ICs and signal relays. You need to be able to
work on densly populated circuit boards to repair these. Another
common problem has been the power supply switching relays overheating
on the older models. Later designs cured this by changing from a 120
VAC fan to a 24 VDC fan along with diode protection from the
inductive load switching. I can go on for many pages about other
issues I have found in the 5335A models and repaired, but will spare
you and the group. I you want more information, please contact me
offline.

The 5335A is a great counter. Personally I think any write-ups about
various issues/repairs would be a good thing to send to the list.

Bound to be more than a few people that would find it useful, specially
if they could find it later in a search.


Re: counter

Christopher Brown
 

On 3/16/13 2:51 AM, jcline01@... wrote:

My experience is that only about 10% of the 5335A counters work out
of the box. The most common trouble has been the A3/A12 boards with
bad Schmitt amplifer ICs and signal relays. You need to be able to
work on densly populated circuit boards to repair these. Another
common problem has been the power supply switching relays overheating
on the older models. Later designs cured this by changing from a 120
VAC fan to a 24 VDC fan along with diode protection from the
inductive load switching. I can go on for many pages about other
issues I have found in the 5335A models and repaired, but will spare
you and the group. I you want more information, please contact me
offline.

The 5335A is a great counter. Personally I think any write-ups about
various issues/repairs would be a good thing to send to the list.

Bound to be more than a few people that would find it useful, specially
if they could find it later in a search.


HP 8563E spectrum analyser help needed

 

Hello to the group. I have an 8563E spectrum analyser with what I strongly suspect is a fault on the A15 board. There is no calibration output signal on the front panel. The analyser shows multiple errors on start up and does not display an input signal. I have delved inside with another spectrum analyser. The 100MHz oscillator is running OK. No 300MHz or 600MHz output from the multiplier chain. There is what looks like a small smt ceramic package transistor with a marking of 0x. This is obviously an RF device. I believe this could be my fault. The device is completely short circuit across a couple of its active pins. The measured dc voltages do not make much sense. I am trying to identify this device. I have a copy of the service manual but no component level info. Here's hoping! Chris G0FJY


Looking for an WR90 wavegude spacer for homebrew X-band cal kit.

David Kirkby
 

I want to make some measurements in WR90 waveguide on a VNA. But since
it for amateur use (3 cm band) I can't justify buying an HP/Agilent
X11644A calibration kit - even a used one.

However, I believe I can make my own cal kit, good enough for this,
from a load, short and an offset short, or more more easily from a
load, short and a spacer+sjhort.

I bought an HP load from eBay for $25, so that bit is solved, but I
still need to make the short and offset short.

I calculated a spacer of 9.5 mm would give me the ideal quarter wave
(90 degree) delay at 10.25 GHz (centre of amateur band), but a couple
of mm either side of that would be fine.

Does anyone have anything suitable. I just want the standard flanges.

Dave, G8WRB.


Re: Sweeper Error Code E080

DAIPRA
 

Hi Cliff, to verify easily your YIG oscillator , there is an auxiliary
output at the rear of the plug-in if you do have a power meter , you can
check the operating YIG connecting it to the Aux output , If you do have a
microwave spectrum analyzer connect it to the Aux output, and during the
test sweep ,(the entire range 10 MHz to 20 GHz) the YIG sweep from 2.3 GHz
to 7GHz.



I also have repaired an HP 8350B which give error code occasionally , the
issue was on the mainframe connector J2 ,from the front view, J2 is on the
right on the rear of the Mainframe, it is a CONEX plug which was corroded ,
the only way to repaired it ,as I do not have any parts, was to solder the
wire directly on the pins on the mainframe.



Truly yours.

73 from

ON1EV



Belgium

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Objet : [hp_agilent_equipment] Sweeper Error Code E080





I have a non working Hp8350B Sweeper, with 83592A (10MHz-20GHz)Plug-in.
On Power-up it occasionally displays error message E080. (now seems to be
permanent).
I would like to know what this means and would be grateful for advice.

There are other faults, which may be related:
The "Unleveled" light comes on and remains on.
There is no RF output.
The correct voltages are present at the YIG Oscillator (5086-7337). It would
seem the the YIG oscillator is probably dead. I might be looking for a
replacement Yig, but not just yet.

Thanks
Cliff G4BGP


HP 54001A Probe Output Connector

 

Hello, I have an HP 54001A 1GHz probe that I want to use as a general purpose probe. It's specifically designed to operate with the HP 54001A/D digitizing oscilloscope. I intend to build a suitable power supply with a receptacle to take the probe pod, supplying its power and taking the output signal via a cable with a BNC connector to plug into other test equipment. The probes output connector looks like an SMA connector without a thread to allow it to slide into the scope. I believe there are such things but it may be some other similar connector (SMB, SMC, etc.?). Can anyone tell me what this connector is and where I could get the mating connector please. There's an extender for servicing the probe which would be fine, except if there are any they are probably scarce, expensive and I'd rather leave any for their intended purpose for those who really need them. Any help gratefully received.
Thanks, Don Black.


WTB HP - 8591 Analyzer

Carl E
 

Hello to all,
I am looking to purchase a reasonably priced recent calibration HP 8591 analyzer , or other up to 2 GHz. Any leads or recommendations would be appreciated.
e-mail response preferrd I dont want to tie up the reflector

e-mail carlm01@...


Re: 8920B Saving last condition?

Ron Wilkinson
 

Hi there Ken,

You're welcome - that's why we have this group...!

Best regards,

Ron Wilkinson

mi-Biz Systems Pty Ltd
Perth - Western Australia

====

k8kwh wrote:



Thanks, Ron!

POWERON saves all settings everywhere....RF GEN, RF ANAL, everything in the unit at the time of shut down.

Exactly what I needed.

Thanks, all, and thanks again to my new friend from Down Under, Ron!

Ken

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@... <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>, Ron Wilkinson <mi-biz@...> wrote:

Greetings all,

Try saving the state as "POWERON", then restart...

Regards,

Ron Wilkinson

mi-Biz Systems Pty Ltd
Perth - Western Australia

====


Re: 8920B Saving last condition?

 

Thanks, Ron!

POWERON saves all settings everywhere....RF GEN, RF ANAL, everything in the unit at the time of shut down.

Exactly what I needed.

Thanks, all, and thanks again to my new friend from Down Under, Ron!

Ken

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Ron Wilkinson <mi-biz@...> wrote:

Greetings all,

Try saving the state as "POWERON", then restart...

Regards,

Ron Wilkinson

mi-Biz Systems Pty Ltd
Perth - Western Australia

====


Re: Sweeper Error Code E080

Artekmedia
 

Ok then if it is really E050 then it supposedly a front panel push
button error on the 83592A,

If two errors occur typically (most) HP gear defaults to displaying the
first error encountered, not some combination error, often but not
always depending on the type of error the self test is halted upon the
first error



Dave

On 3/17/2013 10:17 AM, Cliff Barber wrote:

Hi Dave,
I have downloaded the Service manual from the Agilent site. I agree
that there is scope for mis-reading the code.... But it really is
E050, (or possibly E0B0).
I did wonder, what happens if two error codes are displayed
simutaneously. If that were possible then the result might be the
binary addition of two or more codes.. any takers ?

Cliff

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From: Artekmedia
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
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Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Sweeper Error Code E080

E080 ( actually E050 -E090 are all) Plug-in error code

I don't have an 83592A manual to refer to and the 83592B manual does not
appear at first glance to have the E080 error code ( unless that is a
typo and it is really E050?)

Dave
NR1DX

On 3/17/2013 8:49 AM, g4bgp wrote:

I have a non working Hp8350B Sweeper, with 83592A (10MHz-20GHz)Plug-in.
On Power-up it occasionally displays error message E080. (now seems to
be permanent).
I would like to know what this means and would be grateful for advice.

There are other faults, which may be related:
The "Unleveled" light comes on and remains on.
There is no RF output.
The correct voltages are present at the YIG Oscillator (5086-7337). It
would seem the the YIG oscillator is probably dead. I might be looking
for a replacement Yig, but not just yet.

Thanks
Cliff G4BGP

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651-269-4265



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651-269-4265


Re: Sweeper Error Code E080

Cliff Barber
 

Hi Dave,
I have downloaded the Service manual from the Agilent site. I agree that there is scope for mis-reading the code.... But it really is E050, (or possibly E0B0).
I did wonder, what happens if two error codes are displayed simutaneously. If that were possible then the result might be the binary addition of two or more codes.. any takers ?

Cliff

----- Original Message -----
From: Artekmedia
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Sweeper Error Code E080



E080 ( actually E050 -E090 are all) Plug-in error code

I don't have an 83592A manual to refer to and the 83592B manual does not
appear at first glance to have the E080 error code ( unless that is a
typo and it is really E050?)

Dave
NR1DX

On 3/17/2013 8:49 AM, g4bgp wrote:
>
> I have a non working Hp8350B Sweeper, with 83592A (10MHz-20GHz)Plug-in.
> On Power-up it occasionally displays error message E080. (now seems to
> be permanent).
> I would like to know what this means and would be grateful for advice.
>
> There are other faults, which may be related:
> The "Unleveled" light comes on and remains on.
> There is no RF output.
> The correct voltages are present at the YIG Oscillator (5086-7337). It
> would seem the the YIG oscillator is probably dead. I might be looking
> for a replacement Yig, but not just yet.
>
> Thanks
> Cliff G4BGP
>
>

--
Dave Henderson
Manuals@...
www.Artekmanuals.com
PO Box 175
Welch,MN 55089
651-269-4265






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Re: Sweeper Error Code E080

Artekmedia
 

E080 ( actually E050 -E090 are all) Plug-in error code

I don't have an 83592A manual to refer to and the 83592B manual does not
appear at first glance to have the E080 error code ( unless that is a
typo and it is really E050?)

Dave
NR1DX

On 3/17/2013 8:49 AM, g4bgp wrote:

I have a non working Hp8350B Sweeper, with 83592A (10MHz-20GHz)Plug-in.
On Power-up it occasionally displays error message E080. (now seems to
be permanent).
I would like to know what this means and would be grateful for advice.

There are other faults, which may be related:
The "Unleveled" light comes on and remains on.
There is no RF output.
The correct voltages are present at the YIG Oscillator (5086-7337). It
would seem the the YIG oscillator is probably dead. I might be looking
for a replacement Yig, but not just yet.

Thanks
Cliff G4BGP

--
Dave Henderson
Manuals@...
www.Artekmanuals.com
PO Box 175
Welch,MN 55089
651-269-4265


Re: 85685A special cabling changes

 

Tim,
You should be able to patch your bus interface cable (probably a 85662-60094). HSWP/OUT is pin 44 on the 50-pin, D-sub end of the cable. Just splice a wire for the SMA connection to the wire going to pin 44. Cover the splice with heat shrink and mount the SMA connector on the connector hood that does not have the label. The SMA needs to point down so it does not interfer with the RF bus cable. That's it.
-George

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Tim Hughes <timhughes@...> wrote:

Bill ,
?????????????? thanks for that information.

I guess there is a very small chance the original cable adapter pair, might not work with a newer instrument, but it seems pretty unlikely based on your usage.

Since these special cables can get to be pricey, it would be very useful to know if we could just patch in a coax connector to an existing cable,if we don't have the official cable.

Does anybody know if the coax tap, is just connected in parallel with one of the wires, so nothing needs to be cut,and if so to which connector pin???
Is there any changed termination/attenuation,?? required for that pin???

This should be relatively easy to test with an ohmmeter, for somebody who owns one and wanted to volunteer to add to the community knowledge base.

Tim




--- On Sat, 3/16/13, Bill Albert <billyatams@...> wrote:

From: Bill Albert <billyatams@...>
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: 85685A special cabling changes
To: "hp_agilent_equipment@..." <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 6:21 AM
















??









The Spec An / Preselector combination does not work without the HSWP connection. There is an error that announces the lack of the connection and the instrument will not go beyond that point.



As far as the two cable types with the different HSWP pickoff, there is no apparent difference in the functionality or effect on measurement accuracy. I had a set of the 8574A cables that had the pickoff on the cable connector side and used that set for performance testing of all vintages of the system when the customer cables were not shipped with the unit.



Bill



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Sweeper Error Code E080

g4bgp
 

I have a non working Hp8350B Sweeper, with 83592A (10MHz-20GHz)Plug-in.
On Power-up it occasionally displays error message E080. (now seems to be permanent).
I would like to know what this means and would be grateful for advice.

There are other faults, which may be related:
The "Unleveled" light comes on and remains on.
There is no RF output.
The correct voltages are present at the YIG Oscillator (5086-7337). It would seem the the YIG oscillator is probably dead. I might be looking for a replacement Yig, but not just yet.

Thanks
Cliff G4BGP


Re: Service notes and Change Pages Quandary

Artekmedia
 

Ooops sorry for the bandwidth that was supposed to just to Glenn :-)

On 3/17/2013 8:28 AM, Artekmedia wrote:

Glenn

If your still interested I will send you a trial set to take a whack at

Dave
ArtekManuals

On 3/4/2013 11:43 PM, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:

Dave

I have a Fujitsu FI 6140 high speed duplex scanner with ADF.

This is controlled by Adobe 8.

I will be happy to take on the task.

73
Glenn
WB4UIV

At 02:32 PM 3/4/2013, you wrote:
Guys

I have a large pile of Service Notes and Change pages for 100's of HP
test items.

Here is my quandary. Frankly the time and effort to scan these does not
make economic sense to ArtekManuals, with the scanning backlog we have,
our time and revenue stream is better served doing the main manuals. I
have over 15 clips alone sitting in front of me at the moment, plus
1500+Original Ops/Service manuals to scan. The service notes in
particular are of interest as they likely address known and common
problems and how to fix them. So since I don't have an incentive to
scan
them it seems likely they could sit here another 10 years taking up
space and attracting insects.

Here is a proposal as a possible solution. I will box them up and mail
them ( at my expense) to anyone in the continental USA who is
willing to
scan them and post them on a public web site preferably KO4BB.com and
one other TBD. There are at least 500-1000 pages so this is not a
trivial task , nor do I expect it to get done overnight once you take
responsibility for them. You need only a letter size flat bed scanner
and a willingness to to do hi res and gray scale (of photo pages) when
required although 90% of this can be done at 300DPI B&W. If you want to
spread the work around among multiple participants that is fine with me
but you work that out among yourselves, I am only going to ship one box
of this stuff to one address and I DO NOT have the time to even
"manage"
this project.

I am also open to other approaches besides the above.

The flag is raised those of you who are so moved may now salute..If I
get no takers then I will likely at some point in the future get tired
of tripping over them and consign them to be reincarnated as toilet
paper tubes and cereal boxes.

Dave ArtekManuals.com

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