Re: 5350B - transmutation to a 5351B
Instructions to alter 5350/51B to a 5352B:
There¡¯s either a DIP Switch (S1 on the motherboard) or a set of
jumpers right behind the processor board.
For the 5350B, the settings are positions 4 & 7
For the 5351/52 the settings are positions 4 & 5.? Otherwise
the counter won¡¯t go past 26.5Ghz.
Opt.005 and 010?? -?? 46 GHz:
All are closed ecxept number 2 is open or up.
Rainer
Am 05.03.2020 um 16:17 schrieb Yves Tardif:
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Hi,
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This is the setup of my 5350B¡same config. I
bought unit like this. The answer to ID? Is HP8350B.
In my case, I have option 006 and 010
?
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Yves
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De?: [email protected]
<[email protected]> De la
part de Askild
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦?: 5 mars 2020 03:21
??: [email protected]
Objet?: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 5350B -
transmutation to a 5351B
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Hi Don,
The 5350/51/52 all use the same EPROM.
There are some dip-switches on the main
board that set the different options.
I have a 5351B with a newer revision of
the main board, 05350-60025, where this is selected by S1,
next to the XA4B connector.
I have a photo of the inside, where I
just barley?can see the switch settings, the switches is
marked 1-7
I think this is the settings on my
5351, but can't be sure due to bad pohoto:? 1:0ff, 2:off,
3:off, 4:on, 5:off, 6:off, 7:on??
I see in the SM that the older
05350-60008 main board has jumpers instead of
dip-switches. But numbering should be the same.
Another difference between the 50 and
51 is the input connector, its N on the 50, but 3.5mm on
the 51.
?
The same sampler and microwave assembly
[ both capable of 26.5GHz ] is used in the 5351B Microwave
Frequency Counter as in the 5350B. Is it possible to
extend a 5350B to count to 26.5GHz by , perhaps, changing
the uProcessor strapping, or upgrading a ROM? Has anybody
done this before? I would value your
comments.........................Don.
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Re: 5350B - transmutation to a 5351B
Am 05.03.2020 um 16:17 schrieb Yves Tardif: 05350-60008 main board these are the jumpers in my 5350B Rainer
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Re: 5350B - transmutation to a 5351B
I seem recall that the 8350A was mostly an R2D2 machine, but
the "B" model became more chatty with its HPIB.
-Chuck Harris
Yves Tardif wrote:
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Hi,
This is the setup of my 5350B¡same config. I bought unit like this. The answer to ID? Is HP8350B.
In my case, I have option 006 and 010
Yves
De : [email protected] <[email protected]> De la part de Askild
Envoy¨¦ : 5 mars 2020 03:21
? : [email protected]
Objet : Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 5350B - transmutation to a 5351B
Hi Don,
The 5350/51/52 all use the same EPROM.
There are some dip-switches on the main board that set the different options.
I have a 5351B with a newer revision of the main board, 05350-60025, where this is selected by S1, next to the XA4B connector.
I have a photo of the inside, where I just barley can see the switch settings, the switches is marked 1-7
I think this is the settings on my 5351, but can't be sure due to bad pohoto: 1:0ff, 2:off, 3:off, 4:on, 5:off, 6:off, 7:on
I see in the SM that the older 05350-60008 main board has jumpers instead of dip-switches. But numbering should be the same.
Another difference between the 50 and 51 is the input connector, its N on the 50, but 3.5mm on the 51.
Br,
Askild
On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 3:56 AM donald collie <donaldbcollie@... <mailto:donaldbcollie@...> > wrote:
The same sampler and microwave assembly [ both capable of 26.5GHz ] is used in the 5351B Microwave Frequency Counter as in the 5350B. Is it possible to extend a 5350B to count to 26.5GHz by , perhaps, changing the uProcessor strapping, or upgrading a ROM? Has anybody done this before? I would value your comments.........................Don.
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Re: 8350B (V7) - no ID command?
There is a complete set of docs, EPROMs, etc on K044b's site for the 8350B:
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Re: 5350B - transmutation to a 5351B
Hi, ? This is the setup of my 5350B¡same config. I bought unit like this. The answer to ID? Is HP8350B. In my case, I have option 006 and 010 
? ? Yves ? De?: [email protected] <[email protected]> De la part de Askild
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦?: 5 mars 2020 03:21
??: [email protected]
Objet?: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 5350B - transmutation to a 5351B ? Hi Don, The 5350/51/52 all use the same EPROM. There are some dip-switches on the main board that set the different options. I have a 5351B with a newer revision of the main board, 05350-60025, where this is selected by S1, next to the XA4B connector. I have a photo of the inside, where I just barley?can see the switch settings, the switches is marked 1-7 I think this is the settings on my 5351, but can't be sure due to bad pohoto:? 1:0ff, 2:off, 3:off, 4:on, 5:off, 6:off, 7:on?? I see in the SM that the older 05350-60008 main board has jumpers instead of dip-switches. But numbering should be the same. Another difference between the 50 and 51 is the input connector, its N on the 50, but 3.5mm on the 51. ?
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 3:56 AM donald collie < donaldbcollie@...> wrote: The same sampler and microwave assembly [ both capable of 26.5GHz ] is used in the 5351B Microwave Frequency Counter as in the 5350B. Is it possible to extend a 5350B to count to 26.5GHz by , perhaps, changing the uProcessor strapping, or upgrading a ROM? Has anybody done this before? I would value your comments.........................Don.
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Re: HP3325 - no output, but sync works
All ready have one using all surface mount 50 ohm stripline Form, Fit, Function 2-way interchange? Regards, ? Stephen Hanselman Datagate Systems, LLC
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On Mar 5, 2020, at 02:13, Michael A. Terrell <terrell.michael.a@...> wrote:
? Some of these use one of the relays for Front/Rear output. If the wrong output is selected, you have no output.
I am looking into a small run of new A23 compatible boards, with modern surface mount relays and resistors.
New to the group, but have used HP gear for decades. I have a 3325 which appears to have an output attenuators issue. I can see the sync output on my Tek (555) scope, but do not see anything from the signal output connector. I have tried switching amplitudes, but do not hear any relay clicking (I had read some other post about the relays being audible). This unit was purchased years back as surplus, and had a red ¡°not economical to repair¡± tag on it. I think I paid $25 for it. All the 7-segment displays work, and I can set for various frequencies, and see the sync....just no output,
Any ideas appreciated!
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Re: HP/Harrison 6525A Service Manual with Schematics
Yep.? I hear from him pretty regularly, especially since I seem to be doing my best to build up his retirement fund ;-)
For those not familiar with him - and his company ArtekManuals - he provides at very fair prices PDF scans of various test equipment manuals.? Besides being high resolution and, for the most part, high quality they also have **very** good bookmarks built into the PDF.? Especially in the case of some of the more lengthy manuals these are almost an absolute requirement and, by themselves, are worth much more than he charges for the manuals.? Again, highly recommended.
Link:?
Hal
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Re: 8350B (V7) - no ID command?
Sorry read wrong model number... Please ignore my mail...? :)
Askild
On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 12:11 PM Askild via Groups.Io <megafluffy= [email protected]> wrote: Hi,
For the 5350/1/2, the id command is:? ?ID?
Its in the "HP 5350B, 51B, 52B Operating & Programming.pdf"? manual.
I probably?downloaded it from either keysight or ko4bb.
BR, Askild
On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 4:59 AM Mark Bielman < mbielman@...> wrote: From the s/n, built in 1987. Certainly pre 488!
Working on software to identify connected instruments. If *IDN? fails, it tries ?ID and if that fails, ID.
Might have to add special cases after that! ug.
Mark
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Re: 8350B (V7) - no ID command?
Hi,
For the 5350/1/2, the id command is:? ?ID?
Its in the "HP 5350B, 51B, 52B Operating & Programming.pdf"? manual.
I probably?downloaded it from either keysight or ko4bb.
BR, Askild
On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 4:59 AM Mark Bielman < mbielman@...> wrote: From the s/n, built in 1987. Certainly pre 488!
Working on software to identify connected instruments. If *IDN? fails, it tries ?ID and if that fails, ID.
Might have to add special cases after that! ug.
Mark
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Re: 8350B (V7) - no ID command?
Hi.
There appears to be a full user manual here:-
Viewable online, but there are download options in various formats.
From a quick look, from page 3-37 onwards, this is an "old school"
instrument with a non IEEE488.2 or SCPI command set, so no *IDN? etc.
But there are a lot of things you can do with it, but the learning curve
is going to be steep if all you've used are later IEEE488.2 compliant
type instruments.
There is also a digital/analogue external programming port, where you
can control it with various unique digital and analogue signals.
"Enjoy!"
Dave G0WBX.
--
Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using free and open source software:
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Re: 5350B - transmutation to a 5351B
Hi Don,
The 5350/51/52 all use the same EPROM. There are some dip-switches on the main board that set the different options.
I have a 5351B with a newer revision of the main board, 05350-60025, where this is selected by S1, next to the XA4B connector.
I have a photo of the inside, where I just barley?can see the switch settings, the switches is marked 1-7 I think this is the settings on my 5351, but can't be sure due to bad pohoto:? 1:0ff, 2:off, 3:off, 4:on, 5:off, 6:off, 7:on?? ? I see in the SM that the older 05350-60008 main board has jumpers instead of dip-switches. But numbering should be the same.
Another difference between the 50 and 51 is the input connector, its N on the 50, but 3.5mm on the 51.
Br, Askild
The same sampler and microwave assembly [ both capable of 26.5GHz ] is used in the 5351B Microwave Frequency Counter as in the 5350B. Is it possible to extend a 5350B to count to 26.5GHz by , perhaps, changing the uProcessor strapping, or upgrading a ROM? Has anybody done this before? I would value your comments.........................Don.
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Re: Metrology Grade adapters - HP/Agilent 1250-1745 and 1250-1740 - insertion loss ?
Tim -
Assuming you mean 1250-1745 and -1750, these are both part of the 85033E/400 kit. Any published specifications are in that manual, downloadable from Keysight. They are only spec'd for mechanical dimensions and return loss, the latter of which is listed as a minimum of 28dB and 24dB from DC to 18Ghz for the -1745 and -1750, respectively. Therefore best case insertion loss is 0.01dB and 0.02dB, respectively. Actual insertion losses will be slightly higher due to losses in the adapters themselves not reflected. Can this be zeroed out using the calibrator on your power meter?
Dave Casey
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 11:04 PM Tim Tuck < timt@...> wrote: Hi all,
I've been looking to add an HP/Agilent 1250-1745 and 1250-1740 to my kit
so I can step down my power sensors to 3.5mm/SMA for various test.
What I don't see in the catalog for the adapters, and I cant find after
spending a hour or so googling around, is a specification of insertion loss.
So does any know what the insertion loss is for both the 1250-1745 and
1250-1740 ?
Or, if someone has the equipment, can you measure yours and let me know ?
I don't imagine the IL for these isn't much, probably fractions of a dB,
but I'd like to know what it is, especially at 10GHz.
thanks
Tim
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Re: 8350B (V7) - no ID command?
Yes Mark, command is ??OI?? equivalent to ID ? De?: [email protected] <[email protected]> De la part de Mark Bielman
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦?: 4 mars 2020 21:17
??: [email protected]
Objet?: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] 8350B (V7) - no ID command? ? Hoping to verify... have my 8350B hooked into my HP-IB (GPIB) and apparently there is no "ID" command.
Have tried all possibilities used over the years and no mention in the manuals.
Seems odd that HP would not include it.
Is this true?
Mark
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Metrology Grade adapters - HP/Agilent 1250-1745 and 1250-1740 - insertion loss ?
Hi all,
I've been looking to add an HP/Agilent 1250-1745 and 1250-1740 to my kit so I can step down my power sensors to 3.5mm/SMA for various test.
What I don't see in the catalog for the adapters, and I cant find after spending a hour or so googling around, is a specification of insertion loss.
So does any know what the insertion loss is for both the 1250-1745 and 1250-1740 ?
Or, if someone has the equipment, can you measure yours and let me know ?
I don't imagine the IL for these isn't much, probably fractions of a dB, but I'd like to know what it is, especially at 10GHz.
thanks
Tim
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Re: 8350B (V7) - no ID command?
From the s/n, built in 1987. Certainly pre 488!
Working on software to identify connected instruments. If *IDN? fails, it tries ?ID and if that fails, ID.
Might have to add special cases after that! ug.
Mark
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Re: 8350B (V7) - no ID command?
ID (*IDN?) command is a 488.2 call and not implemented in older 488 instruments?
JimMc
On Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 7:07:35 PM PST, Mark Bielman <mbielman@...> wrote:
Well, maybe this? 
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Re: E4418B/E4419B CLIP upload broken?
Hello Marcus,
What is the problem with yours?
Tom Bryan
N3AJA
On 3/4/2020 7:50 PM, Marcus Bannerman
wrote:
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Hi all,
I was trying to download the E4418B CLIP (and any other service
information I can find) from the group files section under "E4418B
CD Rom Contents" but the only pdf file in there seems to actually
be a html file renamed to a pdf extension. The html appears to be
the groups.io login page. I've checked this is not just my
connection by successfully downloading other files.
Does anyone have the CLIP, schematics, or any other service
information for the E4418B beyond the service manual available on
the keysight site? I think I have a bad power logic section but
would appreciate a schematic to trace stuff out if its available?
Thanks,
Marcus
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Re: 8350B (V7) - no ID command?
Well, maybe this? 
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5350B - transmutation to a 5351B
The same sampler and microwave assembly [ both capable of 26.5GHz ] is used in the 5351B Microwave Frequency Counter as in the 5350B. Is it possible to extend a 5350B to count to 26.5GHz by , perhaps, changing the uProcessor strapping, or upgrading a ROM? Has anybody done this before? I would value your comments.........................Don.
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Re: Free (for shipping cost) -- Several HP paper manuals
Greetings,
Is the manual for the HP-3561A still available?
If yes, what¡¯s you guess for postage to Colorado Springs, Colorado 80907-6343?
Thank you.
Regards,
Ken
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On 3Mar, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Jeff Kruth via Groups.Io < kmec@...> wrote:
3561A Dynamic Signal Analyzer Operating Manual (probably a copy)
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Harold Foster
