Date

Re: E4406A Input Attenuator

 

All the same, let's hope that someone will have the other schemes...


Alexander


Request for E4406A CLIPs (was Re: E4406A Input Attenuator)

 

Just to help clarify on Alexander's request - This is a completely different repair from the one I've been working on (still not complete unfortunately) and he's just asking for the CLIPs if anyone has them.

I only have the RF one but I think he needs the Front Panel & Power Supply ones if they exist.

Alexander - It occurs to me now that you might not be able to get one for the power supply as a lot fo these were purchased from 3rd parties and HPAK never had the schematics to start with.

Hope you get it fixed.

TonyG


Re: E4406A Input Attenuator

 

Hi All.

In the continuation of the repair of our E4406.... I have a problem with thefront panel controland the PS unit. Therepairingexperience of measurement instruments already exists, but there are no E4406 schemes.While I found only RF unit clip.Can someone help with the othersclips?

Alexander


Re: 8901B Power level zeroisation

 

Just coming back to the question what does percent mean for FM?�, the manual says:

The calibration factor will be displayed as a percentage. This percentage indicates the relationship between the HP 8901Bs measurement and the actual output of the Calibrator. (For example, a calibration factor of 100% indicates that the measured value is exactly the same as the calibrator output value. Likewise, a calibration factor of 100.17% indicates that the HP 8901B is measuring .17% above the Calibrators actual output.)�

TonyG


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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:29 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 8901B Power level zeroisation



Peter,

When FM Measurement is selected, the display will show peak deviation. The steps are outlined in the OP Manual under Section III Operation, Getting Acquainted.

Dennis

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Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 8901B Power level zeroisation
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Date: Monday, October 16, 2017, 10:11 PM

Ok, so that worked, but what does
percent mean for FM? kHz deviation would be
more useful.

Peter


On
10/6/2017 9:25 AM, Dennis Czelusniak czelusniakd@...

[hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:


E1 is invalid key sequence if calibration is pressed while
not in AM or FM.
8480 series sensors
work with your unit, high priced 11722A not required.
If you have option 10, connect calibrator
output to input, select AM, push
calibrate and wait, takes about 20 seconds, do the same with
FM, display
reading will be 99.0 to
101.0%

Dennis

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[hp_agilent_equipment]
<hp_agilent_equipment@...>
wrote:

Subject:
[hp_agilent_equipment] 8901B Power level zeroisation
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Date: Friday, October 6, 2017, 2:57 AM






























Hi all,
I have an 8901B here that I use
to
measure power with, using the
internal power detector and
*not* the
fancy external 11722A sensor.
When I
have nothing connected to the
input,
and I press the zero key, I get an Error
21.
Does anyone know
what I am doing wrong,
and how to zero
the internal power level
sensor?
Cheers,
Matt























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Re: 5342A: blown sampler?

 

Hi Tobias,

Do check out Azure, it’s a good site! I have a couple of 5342A parts units and should have a good sampler and other bits.

73,

Steve
WB0DBS



On Oct 17, 2017, at 2:31 AM, Steve A starmux64@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Hi Tobias
Check out as it may help.
Regards
Steve

On ‎Monday�, ‎October� �16�, �2017� �08�:�56�:�32� ‎AM� ‎BST, Tobias Pluess tobias.pluess@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:


Hi all,
one of my other projects I'm working on is a 5342A which does not count on the high frequency input.
I checked the sampler according to the service manual. I used a 34401A for the resistance meausrement and got 22k in forward bias and >3M in reverse bias. This is quite different from the values stated in the service manual; however, when I look at the schematic, I think it should be possible to test the sampler with the diode test function. I did that, and I found out that in forward bias, I have approx. 0.4 volts, and reverse bias is open. So it looks like a pretty nice diode. However I cannot compare to other samplers, and the service manual also tells that the resistance measured can vary greatly if not exact 1mA measuring current is used.
Does that sampler look good to you guys, or is it probably broken? because if it is broken I think it makes no sense to invest additional time to fix things.

Tobias, HB9FSX


Re: 8901B Power level zeroisation

 

Peter,

When FM Measurement is selected, the display will show peak deviation. The steps are outlined in the OP Manual under Section III Operation, Getting Acquainted.

Dennis



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On Mon, 10/16/17, Peter Gottlieb hpnpilot@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 8901B Power level zeroisation
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Date: Monday, October 16, 2017, 10:11 PM

Ok, so that worked, but what does
percent mean for FM? kHz deviation would be
more useful.

Peter


On
10/6/2017 9:25 AM, Dennis Czelusniak czelusniakd@...

[hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
>
>
>
E1 is invalid key sequence if calibration is pressed while
not in AM or FM.
> 8480 series sensors
work with your unit, high priced 11722A not required.
> If you have option 10, connect calibrator
output to input, select AM, push
>
calibrate and wait, takes about 20 seconds, do the same with
FM, display
> reading will be 99.0 to
101.0%
>
> Dennis
>
>
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> On Fri, 10/6/17, matt.ames7bc@...
[hp_agilent_equipment]
> <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
wrote:
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> Subject:
[hp_agilent_equipment] 8901B Power level zeroisation
> To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
> Date: Friday, October 6, 2017, 2:57 AM
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Hi all,
> I have an 8901B here that I use
to
> measure power with, using the
internal power detector and
> *not* the
fancy external 11722A sensor.
> When I
have nothing connected to the
> input,
and I press the zero key, I get an Error
> 21.
> Does anyone know
what I am doing wrong,
> and how to zero
the internal power level
> sensor?
> Cheers,
> Matt
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HP 8640B troubleshooting, no AM modulation

 

Needed my HP 8640B for troubleshooting some radio equipment after 2 years of not using it. Ended up with troubleshooting theHP 8640B first.


The RF output is not being modulated in AM (don't know about FM) from the internal source. I have no audio source to test the external AM modulation input but likely that will not work either..


Checked the signal AM output socket and that is fine on 400 and 1000Hz and the level can be adjusted as expected. The meter gives normal readings as well .


The RF output has a very faint 1000 Hz modulation of perhaps a few % dept with the level all the way up and on 400 Hz no modulation at all. The RF settings and output are fine.


Any ideas where to look?


Thanks, Nico



Re: Plan to deep cleaning my gear

 

Long years ago, people at HP France used Cen Mil E dilued in water at 50% to clean the various tube equipmants where heat and consequently dust were very important . They were dried in a climatic chamber.


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On Mon, 10/16/17, Daun Yeagley daun@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Plan to deep cleaning my gear
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Date: Monday, October 16, 2017, 9:37 PM















I find that Ronson lighter fluid, which is just naptha
works very
well. This includes not only label goo, but a wide
range of
"dirt". It's mild and doesn't hurt
plastics (at least not any that
I've come across). I keep it right there on my
bench and use it for
most cleaning jobs, including also flux removal.



Daun

Daun E.
Yeagley, II, N8ASB
On 10/16/2017 1:39 PM,
guancalvin@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:





Thank a lot for all your inputs guys! My
instruments work
very well for their age. I just wanted to make
them great
again:)



After reading your posts, I figured I will
stay away
from using any liquid or solvent for PCB
cleaning. I would
just use electronics grade gas duster to
blow dust off
the surface of the boards. Or a small vacuum
and a high
quality horse hair brush would work
better?

I was under impression that excessive
dust would pick
up moisture that would damage my equipments.
Is that true?



For some very old and dry sticker residue
on the front
panel, how should I safely remove them? I have
Goo Gone
but don't know if it's safe for
instrument. It's kind of
oily.



Thanks again!
Calvin

























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Re: 5342A: blown sampler?

 

Hi Tobias
Check outhttp://www.azurelectronics.com/Repair%20HP%205342A%20Microwave%20Frequency.htm as it may help.
Regards
Steve

On ‎Monday�, ‎October� �16�, �2017� �08�:�56�:�32� ‎AM� ‎BST, Tobias Pluess tobias.pluess@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:


Hi all,
one of my other projects I'm working on is a 5342A which does not count on the high frequency input.
I checked the sampler according to the service manual. I used a 34401A for the resistance meausrement and got 22k in forward bias and >3M in reverse bias. This is quite different from the values stated in the service manual; however, when I look at the schematic, I think it should be possible to test the sampler with the diode test function. I did that, and I found out that in forward bias, I have approx. 0.4 volts, and reverse bias is open. So it looks like a pretty nice diode. However I cannot compare to other samplers, and the service manual also tells that the resistance measured can vary greatly if not exact 1mA measuring current is used.
Does that sampler look good to you guys, or is it probably broken? because if it is broken I think it makes no sense to invest additional time to fix things.

Tobias, HB9FSX


Re: 8901B Power level zeroisation

 

Ok, so that worked, but what does percent mean for FM? kHz deviation would be more useful.

Peter

On 10/6/2017 9:25 AM, Dennis Czelusniak czelusniakd@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:


E1 is invalid key sequence if calibration is pressed while not in AM or FM.
8480 series sensors work with your unit, high priced 11722A not required.
If you have option 10, connect calibrator output to input, select AM, push
calibrate and wait, takes about 20 seconds, do the same with FM, display
reading will be 99.0 to 101.0%

Dennis

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 10/6/17, matt.ames7bc@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] 8901B Power level zeroisation
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Date: Friday, October 6, 2017, 2:57 AM






























Hi all,
I have an 8901B here that I use to
measure power with, using the internal power detector and
*not* the fancy external 11722A sensor.
When I have nothing connected to the
input, and I press the zero key, I get an Error
21.
Does anyone know what I am doing wrong,
and how to zero the internal power level
sensor?
Cheers,
Matt






















Re: Plan to deep cleaning my gear

 

Be careful of using IPA to clean instruments. I had experienced pretty much no problems using IPA until I accidentally hit the leftmost frequency display wheel on my HP 8601A. The IPA dissolved the white lettering on the wheel.

DaveD

On 10/16/2017 3:24 PM, `Richard Knoppow dickburk@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
�

�� Liquid dishwahing detergent like Dawn is safe for nearly everything. You have to test paint. Use a cotton swab somewhere where a mark won't show. Naphtha is safe for many paints but not all, isopropyl alcohol is fairly safe. Solvents like acetone, xylene, etc are almost always going to attack paint. MEK will attack about everything. Watch out for household spray cleaners, some seem benign but are not. Again test in a small place.
�� Kerosene is a fairly mild solvent and may work on residue from labels. Its a good degreaser.

On 10/16/2017 2:03 PM, guancalvin@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:

>>� �You have not said what equipment you want to clean. >> It does make a difference.�

I want to clean 8350B/83592B sweep source, 8510 Vector Network Analyzer display and I/F sections, and the S-Parameter test set, and a 8566B spectrum analyzer(RF and Display).

The 8510C panel is plastic, others are not, want to make sure whatever I use is going to eat the paint.

Thanks,
Calvin

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Re: HP items for sale

 

Harrison 6367A0-36vdc, 0-10A, 110 vac input, $50 plus shipping:

How much does it weigh? Can you ship USPS?

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Frank Hughes hp_ciscovss@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Hi,
I'm having trouble lifting heavy things now (surgery on both rotator cuffs), and the son will soon complete his Computer Engineering degree, move away, and then I'll try to move these and be scolded (again) by the surgeon.
Let me know if you want photos. All work, unless noted.

I realize the shipping costs for the heavy things make them less attractive, but trying here first.
Located in central Fla. Bring a chain saw.....

Thanks and 73
Frank Hughes
KJ4OLL

HP 6521A 0-1kv DC, 0-200ma, 110vac input $100 plus shipping
HP 6268B 0-40vdc, 0-30A, 240vac input $250 plus shipping
Harrison 6267A, 0-36vdc, 0-10A, 110 vac input, amp meter does not work. $50 plus shipping
Harrison 6367A0-36vdc, 0-10A, 110 vac input, $50 plus shipping
HP 6434B 0-40vdc, 0-25A, 110 vac input $150 plus shipping
HP 6237B, +18vdc @ 1A, + 20 VDC @ .5A, -20VDC @ .5A, 110vac input, $50 plus shipping
HP 6289A, 0-40vdc, 1.5A, 110vac input $50 plus shipping
HP 230B RF power amplifier, 10mhz-500mhz, 110vac input $150 plus shipping
HP 334A Distortion Analyzer, 110vac input, $125.00, plus shipping
HP 3400A RMS voltmeter, 110vac input, $50 plus shipping
HP 11710B Down Converter, 110vac input, $100 plus shipping
Fluke 313A Voltage Calibrator, 0-50vcd, 0-2A, 110vac input, needs calibration, $75, plus shipping



Re: How to clean NiCd batt leak residue

 

Hi Calvin

The blueish crud is most likely highly alkali potassium salts, mechanically remove as much as possible then neutralise with white wine vinegar. Wash away any residue with distilled or deionised water and dry the surface. The residue is very corrosive to aluminium, do not delay.

73 George G6HIG
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Sent: 16 October 2017 22:42
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] How to clean NiCd batt leak residue

Hi there,


When I opened up my 8672A synthesized CW generator, I found the NiCad batt pack was leaking. It was clean few years back. I removed it immediately but it left blueish and sort of oily film like residue on the aluminum housing wall.


What is the best way to clean the damn leaky NiCad residue off the aluminum?


Thanks,

Calvin


Re: 3585B Spectrum Analyzer

 

On 10/16/2017 04:39 PM, ve3poa@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
So far I've removed all the boards I could that were relatively easy. I
have not touched the ones that are under a metal panel identified as A
and then a number. A31 or A32 for example.

I'm no longer getting the several beeps sequence as before so something
has changed. Noticed after examining the power supple boards. However
the alphanumerics still do not display and the flashing dot on the
screen remains.

No burnt components were noticed when examining the boards or even a
hint that something was askew.

So, on to the next phase but that will be tomorrow.
Hey Peter, just a random data point here, from my own experience. I
picked up a 3585A awhile back that seemed to be a basket case. Display
problems, sweep control problems, pretty much everything seemed broken.
It was very cheap, and I had the service manual, so I was up for the
challenge.

I spent hours troubleshooting it, and eventually found that nearly all
of its problems were due to poorly-seated boards.

The only other issue was a blown fuse in the display section. Now,
conventional wisdom says "something caused that fuse to blow", but the
documentation simply states that if it's blown, just replace it. It
seems that fuse was just a bit under-specified, and they knew it.

Anyway, after some quality time with some DeOxit gold wipes on the
card-edge connectors, the analyzer is rock solid. There are a LOT of
card-edge connectors in that analyzer, and they're getting old by
now...you might want to take a look in that direction.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: Plan to deep cleaning my gear

 

I use the citrus based Goo Gone to remove most labels. The citrus oil is very thin, and it evaporates. I have even used ot to remove price tags from paperback books. A few drops on a cotton ball, and let it sit for a few minutes to soften the adhesive, then carefully peel off the label. The older the label, the longer it needs to soak. As far as books or other printed mater, don't rub the surface, or you can remove the ink. I have used over a half gallon of it, so far. I also use it to remove inventory labels from surplus reels of SMD components, to expose the EM labels.

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From: "guancalvin@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Sent: Oct 16, 2017 1:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Plan to deep cleaning my gear

Thank a lot for all your inputs guys! My instruments work very well for their age. I just wanted to make them great again:)

After reading your posts, I figured I will stay away from using any liquid or solvent for PCB cleaning. I would just use electronics grade gas duster to blow dust off the surface of the boards. Or a small vacuum and a high quality horse hair brush would work better?

I was under impression that excessive dust would pick up moisture that would damage my equipments. Is that true?


For some very old and dry sticker residue on the front panel, how should I safely remove them? I have Goo Gone but don't know if it's safe for instrument. It's kind of oily.


Thanks again!
Calvin




Michael A. Terrell


How to clean NiCd batt leak residue

 

Hi there,


When I opened up my 8672A synthesized CW generator, I found the NiCad batt pack was leaking. It was clean few years back. I removed it immediately but it left blueish and sort of oily film like residue on the aluminum housing wall.


What is the best way to clean the damn leaky NiCad residue off the aluminum?


Thanks,

Calvin


Re: Plan to deep cleaning my gear

 

�� Liquid dishwahing detergent like Dawn is safe for nearly everything. You have to test paint. Use a cotton swab somewhere where a mark won't show. Naphtha is safe for many paints but not all, isopropyl alcohol is fairly safe. Solvents like acetone, xylene, etc are almost always going to attack paint. MEK will attack about everything. Watch out for household spray cleaners, some seem benign but are not. Again test in a small place.
�� Kerosene is a fairly mild solvent and may work on residue from labels. Its a good degreaser.

On 10/16/2017 2:03 PM, guancalvin@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:

>>� �You have not said what equipment you want to clean. >> It does make a difference.�

I want to clean 8350B/83592B sweep source, 8510 Vector Network Analyzer display and I/F sections, and the S-Parameter test set, and a 8566B spectrum analyzer(RF and Display).

The 8510C panel is plastic, others are not, want to make sure whatever I use is going to eat the paint.

Thanks,
Calvin

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Re: Plan to deep cleaning my gear

 


>> You have not said what equipment you want to clean. >> It does make a difference.

I want to clean 8350B/83592B sweep source, 8510 Vector Network Analyzer display and I/F sections, and the S-Parameter test set, and a 8566B spectrum analyzer(RF and Display).

The 8510C panel is plastic, others are not, want to make sure whatever I use is going to eat the paint.

Thanks,
Calvin


Re: HP items for sale

 

Hello,

no problem. If you ever change your mind let me know

With best regards
Tam Hanna
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On 16.10.2017 21:01, hp_ciscovss@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:

Hi Tam,

No, thank you.
Frank


YIG pinout

 

Does anyone have the pinout for the 5086-7267 YIG oscillator handy?
My google-fu seems to be weak today.

Thanks,
-Dave

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA