Re: ESA instrument adjustments - reverse engineering
Agreed that the EEVBlog forums are more active with this sort of thing. As you have already guessed, I wanted to post here since this group is "dedicated" to HP/Agilent/Keysight stuff. I will
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Kalle Kempe
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
"pianovt via groups.io" <pianovt@...> writes: My mistake Vladan. I misunderstood your point then - I thought you were essentially saying that an amplitude inaccuracy would also affect
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Matt Huszagh
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
Hi Matt, I actually asked something different from what you measured. You measured the relative level between the displayed signal and average noise. My question is, when you applied -10dBm to each
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pianovt
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
"pianovt via groups.io" <pianovt@...> writes: I made some measurements to compare them. I injected a -10 dBm tone from my 8340 at each of the following frequencies. I centered the 8566
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Matt Huszagh
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
Actually there is ONE analyzer that HP made that used fundamental mixer up to 22GHz ! Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 11:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re:
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Lothar baier <Lothar@...>
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
Is the amplitude accuracy on your 8566A good? Comparing noise levels between the two analyzers only makes sense if they both show correct amplitude when you apply a signal. Vladan
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pianovt
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#126930
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
Dave¡¯s explanation is correct and concise; I can add some detail for those who are interested, or not familiar. The first converter in the 8566 is a single diode mixer. A single diode is the
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pianovt
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#126929
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
As I remember, the last converter only affects Band 0. Cheers! Bruce Quoting Matt Huszagh <huszaghmatt@...>:
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Bruce
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
Forgot to attach...
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Matt Huszagh
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
"pianovt via groups.io" <pianovt@...> writes: Thanks for sending that along Vladan. My unit appears to be a bit worse than that, but not wildly different. Have you noticed an
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Matt Huszagh
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
"Lothar baier" <Lothar@...> writes:
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Matt Huszagh
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
Matt, here is what a typical 8566B does. This unit is average, i.e. not particularly "hot", nor has it been calibrated recently. Vladan
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pianovt
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#126924
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
higher conversion loss of the mixer translates into a increase in system noise figure , since there is no gain prior to the mixer the IF gain will also play into it , you can go online and find a
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Lothar baier <Lothar@...>
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
a spectrum analyzer in essence a receiver therefore the noise floor is determined by several factors , system Noise figure , System bandwidth and noise contribution ( phase noise ) from local
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Lothar baier <Lothar@...>
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#126922
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
"Samudra" <samudra.haque@...> writes: Will do Samudra. FYI the "stepped" nature of the noise floor is expected and present in all 8566's. It occurs because the gain is stepped up about 6 dB for
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Matt Huszagh
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
These analyzers use several bands to cover their operating frequency range. The stepped noise floor is due to the increased mixer conversion loss in the higher bands. The higher the band, the greater
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Dave McGuire
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
Interesting. I saw the stepped noise floor also on the recently acquired 8566b I setup recently, and would like to know mire what you find out. It does look strange.
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Samudra N3RDX S21X
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85662A CRT raster shifting position
Has anyone noticed this before? I did not make any adjustments, the display raster seems to have moved further to the top the CRT all by itself. It doesn't appear to? wonder around that I can see.
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DW
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Re: HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
Performance test 14 is the "Average Noise Level Test", which looks applicable and mentions the "Last Converter Adjustments". I'll give those a shot, but still curious to hear thoughts on this. Matt
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Matt Huszagh
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HP 8566A/B Noise Floor
I have 2 HP 8566's: an A and B unit. The noise floor on the A unit is noticeably better than the noise on the B unit. I've attached 2 images of my B unit corresponding to the 0-2.5 GHz and 2-22 GHz
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Matt Huszagh
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