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Re: RF Impedance Measurement


 

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You could certainly do this. The professionl way is to use a ganged source-detector. You might achieve a sufficient sensitivity by using a logaritmic detector rather than a diode rf voltmeter. The problem using this set up for antennas as I mentioned earlier is that the null is compromised by any strong signals you may receive and also by the source harmonics which will not be nulled of course. You will really need, from my experience, around 3 to 5 volts source drive for the bridge. I have wonder about using the same source as an LO for a direct converstion receiver. Here screening would be of paramount importance. Maybe optical fibre coupling the source to the receiver??
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Alan
G3NYK

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Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] RF Impedance Measurement

I have another idea.? The purpose of using noise as a signal source is so that the frequency of interest can be selected by the detector/receiver.? The same thing can be accomplished with a signal generator and voltmeter, with the signal generator providing the frequency of interest, the only issue being that of getting a sufficiently sensitive detector (the same receiver would work here).

So now the problem is reduced to fabricating the bridge itself.? The excitation and detection has become simple and thus the balance of the drive signal has to be considered.? Further, I wonder how to calibrate the capacitor; it will not read the unknown reactance directly but a calculation must be made.? If the basic impeda nce of the bridge (standard value) is 50 Ohms, then the ratio of the unknown (measured) resistive component to this needs to be the scaling factor for the capacitance (or negative capacitance).

Has anyone done the arithmetic for this?? I am agonizing over the what might be the best way to mark the bridge dials.? I presume that marking them with the value of the component and calculating later might work best.

If I make several transformers, I won't have to make a very wide band transformer.? If I use several values of standard resistance I can cover a wide impedance range.? And with a couple of variable capacitors the frequency and impedance range can be extended.? Sensitivity at balance is also an issue.

This has moved from a difficult project to a simple one and now is back to being difficult.

Bob



On Thursday, October 8, 2015 11:55 AM, Bob Albert wrote:


Robert,

Thanks for telling me, but I suspect the shipping cost (based on your callsign) would make the cost prohibitive.? I am in Los Angeles.

So my intent is to use the main dial on an old cheapie signal generator and custom calibrate it.

Bob K6DDX



On Thursday, October 8, 2015 11:17 AM, "robert8rpi@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" wrote:




Hi Bob,
I have some Hammarlund 25pF to 250pF precision variables. They are straight law with built-in anti-backlash reduction gears. They came from aircraft fuel quantity gauge test sets and look like new. A lot of variable capacitors have non linear laws to give a linear frequency scale on receivers. let me know off list if you are interested in one of the Hammarlunds.

Robert G8RPI.





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