I have had bad results
as far as leakage with Duracells, but Ray O Vac has been far
worse. Once they are 2 or 3 years old, there is a serious risk
of them leaking in the package. Mallory Duracells were once
very good. Despite their warnings, they accepted recharging
surprisingly well. In the late 1960s when I had to scrape for
every penny, I made a friend at a local industry that used
Duracells in their flashlights and instruments, and replaced
them pre-emptively. He would get the used ones for me for the
cost of a 5 mile bike ride. I refreshed them in a low current
homebrew charger. They worked quite well, and never leaked.
What ever happened to Burgess batteries? They were regarded as
a better brand and their labels were quite distinctive.
?? Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY
On 9/5/24 8:10, Peter Gottlieb wrote:
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Everything
you say is true.
I worked at Mallory back when Duracell was their brand name for
cells (Mallory also made other components like pots).? I worked in
R&D on lithium sulfur dioxide primary cells like used in the
military BA-5590 batteries.
Back then they had manufacturing plants in NC and I worked in
North Tarrytown NY.? Their HQ was nearby in Tarrytown, just over
the line from Irvington.
Everyone there took great pride in their cells which at the time
were considered among, if not the, best made in the world.?
Special attention was paid to the seals to prevent leakage and
damage to devices (they even had a warranty they honored).? The
idea was to build the best possible product and consumers would
pay the slight premium for the added performance and freedom from
damaging leaks. Significant customer goodwill had been built over
decades.
When the company was bought the other component manufacturing was
shut down to concentrate on cells as that was where the profit
was. Understandable and justifiable as the times were changing.
But the aim of the "suits" is to monetize customer goodwill into
improved quarterly results, "shareholder value."? This is done by
moving more money into marketing and cutting costs in
manufacturing.? Any money spent in engineering is to drive out
costs not improve the product.? Over time the quality is pushed so
far down that the old reputation of the brand is the main force
driving sales and products become overpriced crap.
What we are left with is but a hollow shell of what was once a
proud, solid product.
This will happen to any company taken over by suits aka bean
counters.
Do not allow Duracells into your house.
Peter
On 9/5/2024 7:32 AM, Glenn Little via groups.io wrote:
Look at Duracell.
Another suit problem.
Prior to being bought by Proctor and Gamble, they had a very
good product with a good reputation.
Now the batteries leak in the packaging prior to installation in
a product.
I now will not allow Duracell batteries in my house.
Glenn
On 9/4/2024 4:21 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On September 4, 2024 2:48:59 PM "Harold
Foster"<halfoster@...> wrote:
Somebody should have let them know
that this happened...
I am fairly sure that *someone* got an earful over it as the
person affected is not one, I've been told, to mince words
when they are irritated.? The thing is, I'm afraid, that the
one hearing it is also one of the ones whom is somewhat
responsible for the original treatment that they received -
a typical manager that has risen to their level of
incompetence. And I think that it's very true that as
mentioned previously in the thread Keysight's Powers-that-Be
are, as is becoming typical of such corporations, much more
focused on the immediate profits (and resultant bonuses) and
not so much on the future financial health of the company
(AKA: A Future Person's Problem.)? To me, though, Keysight
is relying on their name (or, more accurately, HP's
reputation) to keep generating sales when they really have
no competitive or innovative products to justify that -
other than the 3458A of course.? And Fluke just came out
with what could very much be a reasonable alternative to
that legend.? HP was a truly innovative and legendary
company that was a product of the views and integrity of
Bill and Dave (as was Howard Vollum's Tektronix) but can
only not be considered a textbook example of "Suicide by
Suits."
?? And now Boeing, with actual deaths involved.? I was
thinking maybe now people would sit up and take notice of the
suit problem.? But apparently not.
?? They absolve themselves of any responsibility for this
behavior by saying "It's just business".
???????????????????????? -Dave
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New Kensington, PA
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