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Hi! The problem is that the screen is simply never freed up for typing. If I press enter, clear or any other key, the 3270 terminal shows the screen with that X indicating that the keyboard is locked. So the core of my problem is finishing the IPL process and opening the logon prompt. The processing never gets to this point. This is in Linux, because in Windows everything works correctly. That website that shows the screens and the different colors does not teach what to do if the command prompt never opens. In other words, in a way, it is very nini if ??everything works out. This is not my case. Best regards Arí Ricardo S?o Paulo/SP - Brazil On Friday, April 18, 2025, Rupert Reynolds via groups.io <rupertreynolds@...> wrote: > I was taking some screen shots for a friend, so I put them up in a web page on my defunct server. This is how I'd expect TK5 to startup. > Note that any attempt to type when the cursor is not in an input field will lock the terminal. <Reset> to clear that. If you don't get a "Logon" prompt after connecting a tn3270 terminal to 127.0.0.1:3270, <Clear> normally clears that. > It's http only, as I haven't set up https yet. No cookies, no scripts. http://www.arcaneoverflow.co.uk/ao/startup.html > On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 at 11:53, Arí Ricardo Ody via groups.io <nightrider43@...> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> Thank you very much for the comments. >> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 4:06 AM Tom Armstrong via groups.io <tomarmstrong255@...> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Arí, >>> >>> Thank you for reporting this error. As mentioned by Mike, the newer SORT commands are not supported by OS/360 S/M for MVS 3.8. Ony those commands listed in the S/M Application Programming Guide are supported. To solve your INCLUDE problem I suggest that an E15 User exit will provide you with a solution to filter the records input to the sort. >>> >>> The unsupported command was detected by the code and message IER005A should have been written to SYSOUT. Unfortunately, there is a bug in the message writing routine that resulted in the Abend. The code will be updated and the fixed code included in the next TK5 Update. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Tom > > _._,_._,_ > ________________________________ > Groups.io Esquerda: > > Você recebe todas as mensagens enviadas para esse grupo. > > Exibir/Repostar on-line (#5253) | Responder ao grupo | Responder ao remetente | Silenciar este tópico | Novo tópico > Sua assinatura | Contato com o proprietário do grupo | Cancelar inscri??o [nightrider43@...] > > _._,_._,_
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Hello! Due to Corona I will not be able to test my BSC implementation that connects to the 2703 emulation in commadpt.c code of Hercules for a while. But I have good hopes that it will work. Meanwhile I have set out to connect an Informer 213 terminal. It is a portable 3178 compatible terminal with built in 3274 emulation (http://www.datormuseum.se/peripherals/terminals/informer-213). Connecting using SDLC to the host. So this means refocus a bit to understand comm3705.c code and how VTAM is configured. I started out with examining the TK4- configuration for VTAM and all files in the data set SYS1.VTAMLST. But I have hard time understanding it and mapping this configuration to the manuals: http://www.prycroft6.com.au/misc/download/GC28-0688-2_SPL_VTAM_Level2_Dec77OCR.pdf and http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/sna/vtam/GC27-6998-2_VTAM_Concepts_and_Planning_Aug75.pdf First thing is that there is a distinction between various nodes in the SNA network. I really would like to understand the difference and what the mapping are to the TK4-. For example TK4- defines a "Switched Major SNA node" I have cut away lines related to other subareas than 8. Since this is a VBUILD statemen with TYPE=SWNET, this is the definition of a Swicthed SNA Major Node. It looks like there are PU and LU statements defining terminals. From the comments those belong to different subareas, but still the node described has subarea 9. The manual says "The PU and LU statements define physical units and logical units attached by switched SDLC lines." This could indeed be terminals. But how does it relate to the definition of the NCP nodes? So here is a definition of a local NCP node for subarea 7. It is one of the local NCP connected to a channel: So what does all the LIINE, LU, PU and GROUP statements relate to? I thought the terminal clusters were connect to the NCP node. Meaning that it is here the terminals are defined? It has a GROUP statement that as far as I understand could be used for defining for example a 3274 unit and then there are individual LU and PU for each terminal. Makes sense, but what id the interaction between this definition and the one above it? In addition to this there is a remote NCP defined as well. Why? What is the purpose of defining a remote NCP in the TK4-. Is it "just for fun" or is it really needed? Yes. Something strange has happened to line N08P8. Please disregard that. Here are 8 line defined and 8 PUs. But no LUs. What is the purpose of this definition? I see that the SSCPFM differ between the local and the remote. It seems to be important. The local used for 3270 terminals while the remote is used for Teletypes or similar terminals. Isn't there any LUs for teletypes? Then I read about SDLC in (http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/datacomm/GA27-3093-3_SDLC_Concepts_Jun86.pdf) but also various other documents. From my limited understanding in SDLC there are a primary node, for example the 3705, and then a secondary node, for example the 3274. The address in the SDLC fram is always the address of the secondary node. The primary node doesn't have an address. Further I think that SDLC is much like BSC polled whereby the primary send requests to the secondary and expect s responses. It can also set the poll flag so that the secondary sends back stored information. Right? Then what is the mapping to the upper layers in SNA? I was thinking that the I frame are used for all delivery of data coming from and going to upper layer. And the other messages are used for link management and other utility functions. Is this correct? What I will do next: What I would like know is to create a minimal VTAM configuration that I can experiment with. I started fiddling with the conf but not yet got that far. I would like to configure one single NCP node and just a group of say 8 3270 terminals. Do I need the remote NCPs? Do I need the definition of the Switched SNA Major node? It would be great to see a few actual VTAM definition examples. If someone has a really simple one, that would be great! Then I am th
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Problem trying to open 3270 emulator in linux
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Hello everyone! I am a new user of mvs-tk5, although I am a veteran of IBM mainframes and similar programs. I managed to install and run mvs-tk5 on a Linux Mint. I had to adapt the START_HERC script to call the 32-bit Hercules. The 64-bit version uses instructions that my notebook's processor does not execute. It is a somewhat old machine. I finally managed to get Hercules up and running. It runs until the point where the name TK5 appears large on the screen. Then I call the X3270 with localhost:3270. The screen appears again with the name TK5 large on the screen. The Hercules window displays the message that there was a connection to 3270. However, when I press enter or any other key, the terminal goes to system and does not respond. That is, it apparently opens the terminal with the keyboard locked. I managed to get everything working on a Windows machine, but I would like to use a Linux machine. I compared the tk5.cnf that is in Windows with the one in Linux Mint. I didn't find any differences. But since some things in Linux require a specialist to work, I think I still haven't found where to change it to make it work. Having told my brief story, I am writing to see if any of the group members can help me solve the problem of the 3270 not releasing the keyboard, thus not allowing me to enter the tso. Previously, I had installed TK4 and it is working on this same machine. Greetings from S?o Paulo - Brazil Arí Ricardo
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Abend S0C1 in SORT runs
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Hello everyone! I'm doing some tests with the sort program running on the TK5 MVS. I discovered that whenever I try to use the INCLUDE card between the sort control cards my JOB ends with S0C1(protection exception?) or some other S0Cn sometime. If I remove the INCLUDE card the sort works fine. But a sort without the INCLUDE card is a thing of little use as you must know. I'm writing this e-mail to know if any of you have faced this problem and if you found a solution for it. Greetings from S?o Paulo/SP - Brazil Arí Ricardo
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set date and time on MVS-TK5
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Okay, this is probably a stupid question, my I am very, very out of date. I left the MVS world in the early 1990's and remember that we used to set the date/tome with SYS1.PARMLIB(CLOCKnn). There is no CLOCKnn member in SYS1.PARMLIB in TK5. I am in California and it looks to me like the MVS clock is set to GMT or close to that. As I said it has been decade since I did any MVS system programmers type stuff. Can anyone tell me how to set the time/date on TK5? The SET CLOCK command will only take a two digit year. +
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Hercules with OSA QDIO network connectivity on Windows 11 not working
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I have Hercules-4.3.0.10296-SDL I run z/OS 2.4 my PC has a fixed IP address of 192.168.0.69 My z/OS IP address is 192.168.0.66 my router gateway address is 192.168.0.254 my PC is connected via wifi in my hercules.cnf file i have: 0600.3 OSD ipaddr 192.168.0.66/24 iface 192.168.0.69 chpid 06 Everything seems to be ok on (trl,tcpip dev,..) the z/OS side, except the interface stats show a bytes in/out count of 0. and I cannot ping the z/OS address from my PC, nor my PC from z/OS On TSO: ===> tso ping 192.168.0.69 CS V2R4: Pinging host 192.168.0.69 Ping #1 timed out *** From my PC: C:\Users\tcmau>ping 192.168.0.66 Envoi d’une requête 'Ping' 192.168.0.66 avec 32 octets de données : Réponse de 192.168.0.69 : Impossible de joindre l’h?te de destination. Réponse de 192.168.0.69 : Impossible de joindre l’h?te de destination. Réponse de 192.168.0.69 : Impossible de joindre l’h?te de destination. Réponse de 192.168.0.69 : Impossible de joindre l’h?te de destination. Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.66: Paquets : envoyés = 4, re?us = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%), ipconfig on my pc returns; C:\Users\tcmau>ipconfig Configuration IP de Windows Carte inconnue Connexion au réseau local : Statut du média. . . . . . . . . . . . : Média déconnecté Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . : Carte réseau sans fil Connexion au réseau local* 1 : Statut du média. . . . . . . . . . . . : Média déconnecté Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . : Carte réseau sans fil Connexion au réseau local* 2 : Statut du média. . . . . . . . . . . . : Média déconnecté Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . : Carte réseau sans fil Wi-Fi : Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . : Adresse IPv6. . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 2a01:e0a:55e:a470:702:6f38:5328:bc4b Adresse IPv6 temporaire . . . . . . . .: 2a01:e0a:55e:a470:58a5:6b9:bbbf:73f5 Adresse IPv6 de liaison locale. . . . .: fe80::c37:a2cf:2bb3:3878%3 Adresse IPv4. . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 192.168.0.69 Masque de sous-réseau. . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Passerelle par défaut. . . . . . . . . : fe80::6aa3:78ff:fe7a:c39b%3 192.168.0.254 Carte Ethernet Connexion réseau Bluetooth : Statut du média. . . . . . . . . . . . : Média déconnecté Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . : in VTAM i have defined: BROWSE SYS1.VTAMLST(TRL600) - 01.00 Line 0000000000 Col 0 *** Top of Data ** TRL600 VBUILD TYPE=TRL TRL6 TRLE LNCTL=MPC, X READ=(0600), X WRITE=(0601), X DATAPATH=(0602), X PORTNAME=OSA0001, X MPCLEVEL=QDIO * in TCPIP config i have: ; ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ; Hardware definitions: ; ; ---------------------------------------------------------------------- INTERFace OSA0001PHIL DEFINE IPAQENET CHPIDTYPE OSD PORTNAME OSA0001 IPADDR 192.168.0.66/28 NONROUTER ; BEGINRoutes ROUTE 192.168.0.0 255.255.0.0 = OSA0001PHIL MTU 1492 ROUTE DEFAULT 192.168.0.254 OSA0001PHIL MTU 1492 ENDRoutes ; START OSA0001PHIL D NET,TRL gives me: D NET,TRL,TRLE=TRL6 IST097I DISPLAY ACCEPTED IST075I NAME = TRL6, TYPE = TRLE 309 IST1954I TRL MAJOR NODE = TRL600 IST486I STATUS= ACTIV, DESIRED STATE= ACTIV IST087I TYPE = LEASED , CONTROL = MPC , HPDT = YES IST1715I MPCLEVEL = QDIO MPCUSAGE = SHARE IST1716I PORTNAME = OSA0001 LINKNUM = 0 OSA CODE LEVEL = C3F1 IST2337I CHPID TYPE = OSD CHPID = 06 PNETID = **NA** IST1577I HEADER SIZE = 4096 DATA SIZE = 0 STORAGE = ***NA*** IST1221I WRITE DEV = 0601 STATUS = ACTIVE STATE = ONLINE IST1577I HEADER SIZE = 4092 DATA SIZE = 0 STORAGE = ***NA*** IST1221I READ DEV = 0600 STATUS = ACTIVE STATE = ONLINE IST924I ------------------------------------------------------------- IST1221I DATA DEV = 0602 STATUS = ACTIVE STATE = N/A IST1724I I/O TRACE = OFF TRACE LENGTH = *NA* IST1717I ULPID = TCPIP ULP INTERFACE = OSA0001PHIL IST2310I ACCELERATED ROUTING DISABLED IST2331I QUEUE QUEUE READ QUEUE IST2332I ID TYPE STORAGE STATUS IST2205I ------ -------- --------------- ---------------------- IST2333I RD/1 PRIMARY 4.0M(64 SBALS) ACTIVE IST2333I RD/1 PRIMARY 4.0M(64 SBALS) ACTIVE IST2305I NUMBER OF DISCARDED INBOUND READ BUFFERS = 0 IST2386I NUMBER OF DISCARDED OUTBOUND WRITE
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Tape handling in MVS
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Hello, I'm trying to learn how to use (virtual) tapes with OS/390 ADCD 2.10 running on Hercules Hyperion Release 4.7. I guess I've discovered a hard bug in ADRDSSU, the utility to dump and restore datasets to/from tape. Test scenario: - Create Volume, attach, initialize, mount - FTP just a handful of files (BOOKs) to that volume - DUMP those uploaded DS to tape with ADRDSSU If the volume is a 3390-27, the majority of DS generate an error: ADR299E (001)-OPNCL(01), CORRECT SIZE (IN CYLINDERS) OF VOLUME BOOKS0 CANNOT BE DETERMINED. VOLUME IS NOT PROCESSED. SIZE FROM DEVTYPE MACRO IS 032760. SIZE FROM RDC DATA IS 032760. SIZE FROM VTOC IS 032760. SIZE FROM VTOC INDEX IS 014985. If the volume is a 3390-9, there are no errors. Is this a known issue? Any hints what I can use besides ADRDSSU for save/restore to tape? Note: BookManager can access those DS without issue from a 3390-27. I'm aware that I could use more than one volume and spread data accordingly. This would necessitate changing my FTP workflow to "switch over" to the next volume, once the current one is (nearly) full. :wq! PoC
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IEHINITT ignores request to not unload
Hello, I'm trying to learn how to use (virtual) tapes with OS/390 ADCD running on Hercules Hyperion Release 4.7. I'd prefer to minimize switching between windows to type commands, even if this is much less labor than decades ago when inserting a tape meant running around a lot. Hence I want to avoid having yet another shell window open to create an already initialized tape, but use the MVS way. My Hercules.cnf definition is: 0560 3480 * So, I submit this job (job card omitted deliberately): //INZTAP EXEC PGM=IEHINITT //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //DEV0560 DD UNIT=(560,,DEFER) //SYSIN DD * DEV0560 INITT SER=BKTAP1,DISP=REWIND,OWNER='P390' /* After confirming the mount request on the MVS console, I load the tape: devinit 560 bktap1.aws Note: bktap1.aws does not exist prior. The tape is then labeled as requested, and unloaded, RC=0. The DISP=REWIND seems to be ignored, though. For the next job step (ADRDSSU) to proceed, I must reload the tape again (devinit). I found this: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=statements-initt-statement Stating: > Tapes in a Tape Library Dataserver are unconditionally unloaded regardless of the specification for this parameter. Now I wonder if this sentence is applicable to the 3380 emulation in Hercules 4.7. How can I prevent the tape from being unloaded after IEHINITT finished its job? Thank you! :wq! PoC
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FILE STATUS CLAUSE
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hI everay one, fresh installation of TK5 to use Hercules, i have gotten this compiler error LINE 23 IKF1017I-E FILE INVALID IN SELECT CLAUSE here is the cobol code about it - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20 line(s) excluded 000021 SELECT I-ACCOUNT-FILE 000022 ASSIGN TO UT-S-ACCOUNT 000023 FILE STATUS IS IND-I-CODE-READING. and so IN DATA DIV 0056 IND-I-CODE-READING PIC 9(2) VALUE ZEROS. here is the setup Hercules Version : 4.7.0.11119-SDL-gf7d2360a with upgrade 4 installed . . . . TT TT TT KK KK 55 Update 4 on : Windows 10 Can help me please
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Sources for Bookmanager books?
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Hi All, I’m just writing as a newbie who has recently discovered that BookManager Read for MVS works extremely well with my screen reading technology, as do many ISPf utilities, to be fair. That being said, I wondered if anyone has OS390 or MVS-era bookshelves anywhere? I know I can find some of this stuff in PDF, but I’d love to get the original formats as well, if only for interest’s sake and to give me practice mucking around with loading it onto the emulator and so on. Thanks for any thoughts. ? Best, Zack.
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Back to old problems: printers not draining.
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Hi I run a version of TK4- (I know: I should move on to TK5). This happens on a Mac, Mac OS Sequoia and Intel machine. I start TK4- and run a couple of simple things (these days I am fooling around with COBOL). Now. First of all I do not seem to be able to get anything "printed" on the files `prt/prt???.txt`. From QUEUE or OUTLIST, I try to "release" the output but nothing happens. Next, I issue `shutdown` an the system hangs after `$HASP395 BSPPILOT ENDED` because `PRINTER1` and `PRINTER2` are draining. To move on I have to issue `/$e prt1` `/$e prt2` `/$c prt1` `/$c prt2` After that the system moves on and terminates (although sometimes it crashes). Note the ``` HHC01250E 0:000E Printer: error in function write(): Operation timed out HHC00007I Previous message from function 'write_buffer' at printer.c(264) ``` error messages (this is obviously from Hercules). I am attaching the logs of a typical interaction. All the best Marco -- Marco Antoniotti Somewhere over the rainbow
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geronimo370.nl down?
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Hi it looks like the `geronimo370.nl` site is down. Or it is just me? Thanks Marco -- Marco Antoniotti Somewhere over the rainbow
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zOS shutdown in Hyperion
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Running Hyperion dev branch 4.8 on Apple M2 hardware and can successfully start z/OS (V2.2, 2.5 & 3.1) but can't shut any of them down cleanly. Issuing S SHUTSYS fails on every system - see below:- - 19.27.49 s shutsys - 19.27.49 IRR812I PROFILE * (G) IN THE STARTED CLASS WAS USED - TO START SHUTSYS WITH JOBNAME SHUTSYS. 19.27.49 STC02511 IEFC452I SHUTSYS - JOB NOT RUN - JCL ERROR 19.27.49 IEE122I START COMMAND JCL ERROR I must be doing something wrong with. Any suggestions? Thanks
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How to extract a zip archive of an OS390 iso disk
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Hello I am on Windows 11, and I am looking for a way to extract the OS39RA.A80 file from a ZIP archive consisting of two files OS39RA_1.A80 and OS39RA_2.A80 which are contained in the OS39RA.ZIP archive. I tried with winrar without success. It does not consider it as a multi-file archive. I also used the unzip program of the iso file, but it does not work because it's a 32bits Thanks in advance CHL
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zOS shutdown in Hyperion
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Running Hyperion dev branch 4.8 on Apple M2 hardware and can successfully start z/OS (V2.2, 22.5 & 3.1) but can't shut them down cleanly. Issuing S SHUTSYS fails on every system - see below - 19.27.49 s shutsys - 19.27.49 IRR812I PROFILE * (G) IN THE STARTED CLASS WAS USED - TO START SHUTSYS WITH JOBNAME SHUTSYS. 19.27.49 STC02511 IEFC452I SHUTSYS - JOB NOT RUN - JCL ERROR 19.27.49 IEE122I START COMMAND JCL ERROR I must be doing something wrong with. Any suggestions?
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PL/I SELECT statement Supported?
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Hello All, does the version of PL/I that Hercules/MVS38 use support the SELECT/WHEN statement? I get a compile errors on any SELECT statement. Thank you, Dennis
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Work with your Turnkey System like you are scientist from NASA!
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Hello guys, Just wanted to share with you this publicly available NASA documents: Mission and data operations IBM 360: User's guide (1971) https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19720007517/downloads/19720007517.pdf Mission and data operations IBM 360 user's guide (1973) https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19740006808/downloads/19740006808.pdf Earth Observations Division version of the Laboratory for Applications of Remote Sensing system (EOD-LARSYS) user guide for the IBM 370/148. Volume 1: System overview (1978) https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19800018225/downloads/19800018225.pdf Earth Observations Division version of the Laboratory for Applications of Remote Sensing system (EOD-LARSYS) user guide for the IBM 370/148. Volume 2: User's reference manual (1978) https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19800018226/downloads/19800018226.pdf Earth Observations Division version of the Laboratory for Applications of Remote Sensing System (EOD-LARSYS) user guide for the IBM 370/148. Volume 3: As-built documentation (sections 1-12) 1980 https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19800019274/downloads/19800019274.pdf Earth Observations Division version of the Laboratory for Applications of Remote Sensing System (EOD-LARSYS) user guide for the IBM 370/148. Volume 3: As-built documentation (sections 13-23) 1980 https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19800019275/downloads/19800019275.pdf Earth Observations Division verison of the Laboratory for Applications of remote Sensing system (EOD-LARSYS) user guide for the IBM 370/148. Volume 4: Program listings https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19800018227/downloads/19800018227.pdf If you like stuff like that, please search for "IBM" on this site and you will find dozens of programs for IBM 360/370 that NASA used in 60s-70s. https://ntrs.nasa.gov/ Best wishes, Andre
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The second job (iehmove2.jcl) won’t process the tape because its target is already known to RACF. (I have to type in from memory, as laptop shutdown at moment) The DLI files came from Moshix’ github, and the JCL modified to have a username and passwords on the jobcard, and to put the files on pub003/Pub001 respectively, fix unit to match. This was with users Herc01 and MVSCE01, respectively. What’s necessary to get IEBMOVE to pass RAKF muster when it creates datasets? First job works fine…but that creates the pds explicitly. Thanks! —Dean
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How to link mainprogram and subprogram in MVT Cobol
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Hi Can somebody please explain, whats the purpose of the DD DDNAME=SYSIN statement here? What does it reference to? SYSIN was used as source input dataset for the COBOL compiler and SYSLIN is the object module. I don't understand that. Thank you very much. COBUCL procedure: //COBUCL PROC CPARM1='LOAD,SUPMAP', // CPARM2='SIZE=2048K,BUF=1024K', // LKEDPGM='IEWL' //COB EXEC PGM=IKFCBL00,REGION=4096K, // PARM='&CPARM1,&CPARM2' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(460,(700,100)) //SYSUT2 DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(460,(700,100)) //SYSUT3 DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(460,(700,100)) //SYSUT4 DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(460,(700,100)) //SYSLIN DD DSN=&LOADSET,DISP=(MOD,PASS),UNIT=SYSDA, // SPACE=(80,(500,100)) //LKED EXEC PGM=&LKEDPGM, // PARM='LIST,XREF,LET',COND=(5,LT,COB),REGION=96K //SYSLIN DD DSN=&LOADSET,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) // DD DDNAME=SYSIN //SYSLMOD DD DDNAME=SYSLMOD //SYSLIB DD DSN=SYS1.COBLIB,DISP=SHR //SYSUT1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(1024,(50,20)) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
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I hate to post this since it is off topic but....
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I am trying to find info on building Herc for macOS Sonoma on a 16 inch M2 ... the Github Herc info seems way out of date - latest RC version is 4.0.0 from 2016 or so. I can build it from source, just want to find any gotchas that may have been documented. I am only going to build an ARM64 version for MacOS. If someone wants a AMD64 version I suppose I could build it too. As a general comment the documentation seems to have fallen on hard times lately. Way back when ( Hercules 3-13 or so) there was a coherent way to find info and good links in the web pages. I have hit some 404 pages trying to dig around. I just filed a git ticket about the Mac How To having Windows references and assumptions in it.
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