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Hello Rene, Am 07.03.2025 um 06:50 schrieb René Ferland via groups.io <ferland.rene@...>: Maybe there is a backup somewhere on some archive site? First and foremost: Look in web.archive.org. :wq! PoC
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René Ferland wrote: [...] Hence, asking about it in here is not so displaced to me. I agree with you 100%, now that I know the background of the situation (which I did not know at the time I posted my response). But generally speaking, it's not necessary to ask the group whether a given Hercules related web site is up or down when one can easily determine that themselves via the URLs I provided. Unless it is a situation similar to the one you described of course! In any case I apologize if I ruffled anyone's feathers out there. I was only trying to help. I get a lot of questions from a lot of people asking questions that they could have easily answered themselves via a few short minutes of googling instead of asking me, causing my view regarding such questions to be somewhat, uh, slanted. My apologies. I'll go away now. :) -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 08:31 PM, Fish Fish wrote:
But the point is, such questions can be easily answered yourself rather than by sending a message to the group.
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My own website (vm6pext) was hosted under geronimo370.nl. It was a small site providing starter knowledge for all the vintage systems running under Hercules. On January 26th, I received an e-mail from Gerard Wassink, the owner of the site. Here's a quote from the message:
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"I am planning to stop with my geronimo370.nl website.
?It will be taken down somewhere in the next three to six months.
?Enclosed you will find a backup of your part, vm6pext."
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So, even though the server is currently up and reachable, I doubt anyone will be able to access the website content in the future. That is certainly the case for vm6pext right now. Maybe there is a backup somewhere on some archive site?
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Now, I agree that H390-MVS may not be the best place to inquire about geronimo370.nl. However many posts on geronimo370.nl concerned the Hercules emulator and the vintage systems that run under it (vm6pext had a tab about MVS). I assume it was known to some people in this community (at least Marco and me for that matter). Hence, asking about it in here is not so displaced to me.
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Cheers,
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Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Marco Antoniotti asked: it looks like the `geronimo370.nl` site is down. Or it is just me? FYI: You might want to bookmark one of the following sites (or any other similar sight of your choosing, found by googling): * * Querying "geronimo370.nl" on each results in: * "It's just you. geronimo370.nl is up. Last updated: Mar 6, 2025, 8:17 PM (1 second ago)" * "Geronimo370.nl Server Status Check" "Website Name: Geronimo370" "URL Checked: geronimo370.nl" "Response Time: 86.72 ms" "Geronimo370.nl is UP and reachable by us." Of course, each of the above only tells you whether THEY can reach the website in question on not, but not whether everyone else can. An underground cable might have been cut, or a router that your ISP uses to route traffic could have been misconfigured, etc. So the results are not absolute. But the point is, such questions can be easily answered yourself rather than by sending a message to the group. Hope that helps! -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 11:13 AM, Marco Antoniotti wrote:
it looks like the `geronimo370.nl` site is down.? Or it is just me?
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No, it's not just you. To my knowledge, the owner of the site has closed it for good.
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Cheers,
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Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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I get :?? Please stand by while configuration is in progress.
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On 06/03/2025 19:13, Marco Antoniotti via groups.io wrote: Hi
it looks like the `geronimo370.nl` site is down.? Or it is just me?
Thanks
Marco
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Re: Back to old problems: printers not draining.
On 3/6/25 2:31 PM, Marco Antoniotti via groups.io wrote: Hi
I run a version of TK4- (I know: I should move on to TK5).? This happens on a Mac, Mac OS Sequoia and Intel machine.
I start TK4- and run a couple of simple things (these days I am fooling around with COBOL).
Now.
First of all I do not seem to be able to get anything "printed" on the files `prt/prt???.txt`.? From QUEUE or OUTLIST, I try to "release" the output but nothing happens.
Next, I issue `shutdown` an the system hangs after `$HASP395 BSPPILOT ENDED` because `PRINTER1` and `PRINTER2` are draining.? To move on I have to issue
`/$e prt1`
`/$e prt2`
`/$c prt1`
`/$c prt2`
After that the system moves on and terminates (although sometimes it crashes).? Note the
```
HHC01250E 0:000E Printer: error in function write(): Operation timed out
HHC00007I Previous message from function 'write_buffer' at printer.c(264)
```
error messages (this is obviously from Hercules).
I am attaching the logs of a typical interaction.
All the best
Marco
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Marco Antoniotti
Somewhere over the rainbow
Question what does your config look like for devices at 00E and 00F? Is it set up to go to a file or is it a socketdev? If a socketdev, is anything connected if so what does that look like? -- William C Doughty III <#part type="application/pgp-keys" filename="~/n2ocm.asc" disposition=attachment description="pgp public key"> <#/part>
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Re: Back to old problems: printers not draining.
I didn't see Hercules initializing either (or any) printer devices in the 3033.log.? I may have missed them, but might want to check that.
Marco,
Just a couple of points –
Looking at the LOG file you sent –
You have BOTH printer 1 and printer 2 – waiting for you to perform the SETUP
THIS is why you are not getting any output – they are BOTH waiting for OPERATOR command
This is asking you to verify that the printer is set up with the attributes that are displayed – you can reply with $S PRINTER1 ?and/ or $S PRINTER2
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Printer1 ?to PRINT the output of MF1 job
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13:45:16 /19.45.16 STC 3731 *$HASP190 MF1????? SETUP -- PRINTER1 -- F = 0001 -- C = 6??? -- T = QN
13:45:16 HHC01250E 0:000E Printer: error in function write(): Operation timed out
13:45:16 HHC00007I Previous message from function 'write_buffer' at printer.c(264)
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Printer2 is waiting for setup to print the output of TP job
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13:45:16 /19.45.16 STC 3712 *$HASP190 TP?????? SETUP -- PRINTER2 -- F = 0001 -- C = 6??? -- T = QN
13:45:16 HHC01250E 0:000F Printer: error in function write(): Operation timed out
13:45:16 HHC00007I Previous message from function 'write_buffer' at printer.c(264)
13:45:16 /19.45.16?????????? IEA000I 00F,EQC,09,0E00,1000,,,JES2??? ,19.45.16
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At shutdown
The commands you are issuing - /$E is RESTART –
I believe you want to issue /$P prtx (where x is the printer in question) – this is the DRAIN command
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-J-
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Jeff Bassett
Bassettj@...
(301) 424-3362 (office)
(240) 388-7148 Cell
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Time spent flying? - is
NOT deducted from one’s lifespan
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Marco Antoniotti via
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [H390-MVS] Back to old problems: printers not draining.
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I run a version of TK4- (I know: I should move on to TK5).? This happens on a Mac, Mac OS Sequoia and Intel machine.
I start TK4- and run a couple of simple things (these days I am fooling around with COBOL).
Now.
First of all I do not seem to be able to get anything "printed" on the files `prt/prt???.txt`.? From QUEUE or OUTLIST, I try to "release" the output but nothing happens.
Next, I issue `shutdown` an the system hangs after `$HASP395 BSPPILOT ENDED` because `PRINTER1` and `PRINTER2` are draining.? To move on I have to issue
After that the system moves on and terminates (although sometimes it crashes).? Note the
```
HHC01250E 0:000E Printer: error in function write(): Operation timed out
HHC00007I Previous message from function 'write_buffer' at printer.c(264)
error messages (this is obviously from Hercules).
I am attaching the logs of a typical interaction.
Marco Antoniotti
Somewhere over the rainbow
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Re: Back to old problems: printers not draining.
Marco,
Just a couple of points –
Looking at the LOG file you sent –
You have BOTH printer 1 and printer 2 – waiting for you to perform the SETUP
THIS is why you are not getting any output – they are BOTH waiting for OPERATOR command
This is asking you to verify that the printer is set up with the attributes that are displayed – you can reply with $S PRINTER1 ?and/ or $S PRINTER2
?
?
Printer1 ?to PRINT the output of MF1 job
?
13:45:16 /19.45.16 STC 3731 *$HASP190 MF1????? SETUP -- PRINTER1 -- F = 0001 -- C = 6??? -- T = QN
13:45:16 HHC01250E 0:000E Printer: error in function write(): Operation timed out
13:45:16 HHC00007I Previous message from function 'write_buffer' at printer.c(264)
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Printer2 is waiting for setup to print the output of TP job
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13:45:16 /19.45.16 STC 3712 *$HASP190 TP?????? SETUP -- PRINTER2 -- F = 0001 -- C = 6??? -- T = QN
13:45:16 HHC01250E 0:000F Printer: error in function write(): Operation timed out
13:45:16 HHC00007I Previous message from function 'write_buffer' at printer.c(264)
13:45:16 /19.45.16?????????? IEA000I 00F,EQC,09,0E00,1000,,,JES2??? ,19.45.16
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At shutdown
The commands you are issuing - /$E is RESTART –
I believe you want to issue /$P prtx (where x is the printer in question) – this is the DRAIN command
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-J-
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Jeff Bassett
Bassettj@...
(301) 424-3362 (office)
(240) 388-7148 Cell
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Time spent flying? - is
NOT deducted from one’s lifespan
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Marco Antoniotti via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [H390-MVS] Back to old problems: printers not draining.
?
I run a version of TK4- (I know: I should move on to TK5).? This happens on a Mac, Mac OS Sequoia and Intel machine.
I start TK4- and run a couple of simple things (these days I am fooling around with COBOL).
Now.
First of all I do not seem to be able to get anything "printed" on the files `prt/prt???.txt`.? From QUEUE or OUTLIST, I try to "release" the output but nothing happens.
Next, I issue `shutdown` an the system hangs after `$HASP395 BSPPILOT ENDED` because `PRINTER1` and `PRINTER2` are draining.? To move on I have to issue
After that the system moves on and terminates (although sometimes it crashes).? Note the
```
HHC01250E 0:000E Printer: error in function write(): Operation timed out
HHC00007I Previous message from function 'write_buffer' at printer.c(264)
error messages (this is obviously from Hercules).
I am attaching the logs of a typical interaction.
Marco Antoniotti
Somewhere over the rainbow
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It was down yesterday for me too.
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Back to old problems: printers not draining.
Hi
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I run a version of TK4- (I know: I should move on to TK5).? This happens on a Mac, Mac OS Sequoia and Intel machine.
I start TK4- and run a couple of simple things (these days I am fooling around with COBOL).
Now.
?
First of all I do not seem to be able to get anything "printed" on the files `prt/prt???.txt`.? From QUEUE or OUTLIST, I try to "release" the output but nothing happens.
Next, I issue `shutdown` an the system hangs after `$HASP395 BSPPILOT ENDED` because `PRINTER1` and `PRINTER2` are draining.? To move on I have to issue
`/$e prt1`
`/$e prt2`
`/$c prt1`
`/$c prt2`
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After that the system moves on and terminates (although sometimes it crashes).? Note the
```
HHC01250E 0:000E Printer: error in function write(): Operation timed out
HHC00007I Previous message from function 'write_buffer' at printer.c(264)
```
error messages (this is obviously from Hercules).
I am attaching the logs of a typical interaction.
?
All the best
?
Marco
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Marco Antoniotti
Somewhere over the rainbow
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Hi
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it looks like the `geronimo370.nl` site is down.? Or it is just me?
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Thanks
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Marco
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--
Marco Antoniotti
Somewhere over the rainbow
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Re: zOS shutdown in Hyperion
Ditto on the thanks Diego Your post helped me too.
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Jim
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Re: How to extract a zip archive of an OS390 iso disk
Hello Christian, Am 03.03.2025 um 16:07 schrieb Christian Layec via groups.io <christian.layec@...>: ok my bad
Any idea how to rebuild the disk image ?
CHL Hercules can use those split files out of the box, once they are correctly named. Also, the ckd2cckd64 utility implicitly uses that naming convention when converting files to e. g. cckd64. Of course, conventions for the P390 support software are different of the ones from Hercules. :wq! PoC
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Re: How to extract a zip archive of an OS390 iso disk
I can't tell you more. I'm not used to run licensed product with Hercules
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Marco
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Re: How to extract a zip archive of an OS390 iso disk
Any idea how to rebuild the disk image ?
Le?lun. 3 mars 2025 à?15:28, M Verpelli via <marco.verpelli= [email protected]> a écrit?: It is not a multi-file archive, it is a DASD image divided into two parts, do you remember the time when PC operating systems could not digest files longer than 2GB?
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Marco
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Re: How to extract a zip archive of an OS390 iso disk
It is not a multi-file archive, it is a DASD image divided into two parts, do you remember the time when PC operating systems could not digest files longer than 2GB?
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Marco
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How to extract a zip archive of an OS390 iso disk
Hello
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I am on Windows 11, and I am looking for a way to extract the OS39RA.A80 file from a ZIP archive consisting of two files OS39RA_1.A80 and OS39RA_2.A80 which are contained in the OS39RA.ZIP archive.
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I tried with winrar without success. It does not consider it as a multi-file archive.
I also used the unzip program of the iso file, but it does not work because it's a 32bits
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Thanks in advance
CHL
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René Ferland
Jeff Bassett
Marco Antoniotti
Jim Snellen
M Verpelli
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