Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
Of course, the absolute paths in this simple example must be adjusted to the individual environment. Given the circumstances,? I’ve just did a simple copy and paste.?
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Am 06.07.2020 um 00:32 schrieb Michael Grom < macbaer@...>:
Oh excuse me, this has been already posted earlier I supposed. Here is what I used:
./configure --enable-optimization="-O3 -frename-registers -mhard-float -pipe -mlittle-endian -munaligned-access -march=armv8-a+crc+simd -mcpu=cortex-a72 -mtune=cortex-a72 -mfpu=crypto-neon-fp-armv8 -mfloat-abi=hard" --prefix=/home/pi/herc42/linux/arm --enable-extpkgs=/home/pi/sources/extpkgs
Michael,
And what exactly would "the proper compile options" be, for an RPi4???
(Without that kind of information, your post is just not very helpful... Just saying ...)
Mark S. Waterbury
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TK4- on Raspberry Pi 4 4GB Raspbian "buster"?
Die Katze l?sst das Mausen nicht,
Die Jungfern bleiben Coffeeschwestern.
Die Mutter liebt den Coffee Brauch,
Die Gro?mama trank solchen auch.
Wer will da auf die T?chter l?stern?
J.S.Bach "Kaffee-Kantate" (BWV 211)
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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
Oh excuse me, this has been already posted earlier I supposed. Here is what I used:
./configure --enable-optimization="-O3 -frename-registers -mhard-float -pipe -mlittle-endian -munaligned-access -march=armv8-a+crc+simd -mcpu=cortex-a72 -mtune=cortex-a72 -mfpu=crypto-neon-fp-armv8 -mfloat-abi=hard" --prefix=/home/pi/herc42/linux/arm --enable-extpkgs=/home/pi/sources/extpkgs
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Michael,
And what exactly would "the proper compile options" be, for an RPi4??
(Without that kind of information, your post is just not very helpful... Just saying ...)
Mark S. Waterbury
--
TK4- on Raspberry Pi 4 4GB Raspbian "buster"?
Die Katze l?sst das Mausen nicht,
Die Jungfern bleiben Coffeeschwestern.
Die Mutter liebt den Coffee Brauch,
Die Gro?mama trank solchen auch.
Wer will da auf die T?chter l?stern?
J.S.Bach "Kaffee-Kantate" (BWV 211)
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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
On 7/5/20 10:14 AM, Michael Grom wrote: Choosing the proper compile options make a huge difference, especially for the PI4, I daresay.
And the options you use are? -- Drew Derbyshire "The Beatles want to hold your hand, but The Stones want to burn your town." -- Tom Wolfe
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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
Michael,
And what exactly would "the proper compile options" be, for an RPi4??
(Without that kind of information, your post is just not very helpful... Just saying ...)
Mark S. Waterbury
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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
Choosing the proper compile options make a huge difference, especially for the PI4, I daresay.?
Kind regards
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I did not believe that Hercules and TK4- would work well on a Raspberry Pi 4.? Being a RP4 rookie, I found a website that gave easy direction to downloaded and install Hercules and TK4-.? Sure enough - it worked.? It seemed to me to be as responsive as on my desktop winblows 10 box.? My first challenge is to change the sign on panel to read "My Raspberry Pi Thinks Its a Mainframe".
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TK4- on Raspberry Pi 4 4GB Raspbian "buster"?
Die Katze l?sst das Mausen nicht,
Die Jungfern bleiben Coffeeschwestern.
Die Mutter liebt den Coffee Brauch,
Die Gro?mama trank solchen auch.
Wer will da auf die T?chter l?stern?
J.S.Bach "Kaffee-Kantate" (BWV 211)
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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
On 7/5/20 8:57 AM, Ed Liss wrote: Hi Scott
The URL you asked for is:
Since this is my first one, I bought my rp4b complete 32GB kit from Amazon.? I have dealt with Microcenter in the past and they seem good as well. 32GB? -- Drew Derbyshire "The Internet Gateway is 2 VMBLOKS down and to the left, right past the . . ."
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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
Hi Scott
The URL you asked for is:
Since this is my first one, I bought my rp4b complete 32GB kit from Amazon.? I have dealt with Microcenter in the past and they seem good as well.
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Re: 20,000 Card Deck Crashes MVT HASP Initiator
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:47 AM, Doug Wegscheid wrote:
maketape should work. Try it.
Adding more region to a HASP initiator may help, but then we would need to figger out how to do that there thing.
Where did you find an old copy of the SPICE source code?
Bill
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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
Hello! I can answer that one, try the ones at I find that site, and those stores to be in most regards, perfect. Although I am leaning towards the two I use here in New York. Although the Pi3 I have here and sometimes use was delivered as part of some sort of participation via Element14. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@... "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:24 PM ScottC via groups.io <sccosel@...> wrote:
Hi Ed,
Can you share with us the link you found with clear instructions? I am reluctant to buy a Pi until I know there are reliable instructions to follow!
Also, what is the "best" website to order a Pi 4 or latest model?
Thanks,
ScottC
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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
Hi Ed,
Can you share with us the link you found with clear instructions?? I am reluctant to buy a Pi until I know there are reliable instructions to follow!
Also, what is the "best" website to order a Pi 4 or latest model?
Thanks,
ScottC?
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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM, Don.isenstadt wrote:
Works well on a pi zero too!
"well" is relative. Doing a sysgen from scratch on a zero was a multiday process that never completed; I finally did the gen on an Intel system, and moved my DASD over to the PI. It was ok. As I recall, getting the SMP volumes prepared was the really slow part; it's possible that once you had a starter volume and the SMP volume with everything ACCEPTED, doing a sysgen on a Zero would be possible...
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Re: 20,000 Card Deck Crashes MVT HASP Initiator
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:47 AM, Doug Wegscheid wrote:
Adding more region to a HASP initiator may help, but then we would need to figger out how to do that there thing.
Ignore that. looks like the fortran compiler is dying first, which is taking out the initiator. I seem to recall trouble with losing initiators when whatever they were running abended. listen to Vince and Joe.
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Re: 20,000 Card Deck Crashes MVT HASP Initiator
Allocate more region and memory - a lot more :)
See job and exec cards.
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On 29/06/2020 20:01, Bill Lewis wrote: I created an OS/360 MVT using Jay Maynard's instructions at
It worked, and will run simple assembler and FORTRAN jobs.
Then I tried to run a 20,000 line FORTRAN program through it.? And quickly got stuck.
It appears that card deck is too large and the HASP initiator runs out of memory.
All the same JCL works fine with a smaller FORTRAN source.
$10.03.02 JOB??? 1 ON READER1? -- SPICE2??? SPICE2
$10.03.02 JOB??? 1 -- SPICE2?? -- BEGINNING EXEC - INIT 1 - CLASS A
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF236I ALLOC. FOR SPICE2?? ASM????? ASMX
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 721?? ALLOCATED TO SYSPRINT
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 701?? ALLOCATED TO SYSIN
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF236I ALLOC. FOR SPICE2?? FORT
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 721?? ALLOCATED TO SYSPRINT
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 770?? ALLOCATED TO SYSPUNCH
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 701?? ALLOCATED TO SYSIN
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEA700I 804-1 SPICE2?? FORT???? 00 FB004A08 00000800
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF450I SPICE2? .FORT??? .???????? ABEND S804 TIME=10.03.02
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEA702I 80A-1 HOSINITA SPICE2?? 00 FC000500 000004C8
*10.03.02 IEF450I INIT??? .HOSINITA.???????? ABEND S80A TIME=10.03.02*
So my question...? How do I get that 20,000 card deck into the system?
Is Jay Moseley's MAKETAPE program a reasonable approach?
Thanks,
Bill
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Re: 20,000 Card Deck Crashes MVT HASP Initiator
maketape should work. Try it.
Adding more region to a HASP initiator may help, but then we would need to figger out how to do that there thing.
Where did you find an old copy of the SPICE source code?
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Re: 20,000 Card Deck Crashes MVT HASP Initiator
80a is out of memory.? Maybe give some more region?
Joe
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 10:02 Bill Lewis < wrljet@...> wrote: I created an OS/360 MVT using Jay Maynard's instructions at
It worked, and will run simple assembler and FORTRAN jobs.
Then I tried to run a 20,000 line FORTRAN program through it.? And quickly got stuck.
It appears that card deck is too large and the HASP initiator runs out of memory.
All the same JCL works fine with a smaller FORTRAN source.
$10.03.02 JOB??? 1 ON READER1? -- SPICE2??? SPICE2
$10.03.02 JOB??? 1 -- SPICE2?? -- BEGINNING EXEC - INIT 1 - CLASS A
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF236I ALLOC. FOR SPICE2?? ASM????? ASMX
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 721?? ALLOCATED TO SYSPRINT
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 701?? ALLOCATED TO SYSIN
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF236I ALLOC. FOR SPICE2?? FORT
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 721?? ALLOCATED TO SYSPRINT
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 770?? ALLOCATED TO SYSPUNCH
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 701?? ALLOCATED TO SYSIN
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEA700I 804-1 SPICE2?? FORT???? 00 FB004A08 00000800
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF450I SPICE2? .FORT??? .???????? ABEND S804?????? TIME=10.03.02
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEA702I 80A-1 HOSINITA SPICE2?? 00 FC000500 000004C8
?10.03.02 IEF450I INIT??? .HOSINITA.???????? ABEND S80A?????? TIME=10.03.02
So my question...? How do I get that 20,000 card deck into the system?
Is Jay Moseley's MAKETAPE program a reasonable approach?
Thanks,
Bill
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20,000 Card Deck Crashes MVT HASP Initiator
I created an OS/360 MVT using Jay Maynard's instructions at
It worked, and will run simple assembler and FORTRAN jobs.
Then I tried to run a 20,000 line FORTRAN program through it.? And quickly got stuck.
It appears that card deck is too large and the HASP initiator runs out of memory.
All the same JCL works fine with a smaller FORTRAN source.
$10.03.02 JOB??? 1 ON READER1? -- SPICE2??? SPICE2
$10.03.02 JOB??? 1 -- SPICE2?? -- BEGINNING EXEC - INIT 1 - CLASS A
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF236I ALLOC. FOR SPICE2?? ASM????? ASMX
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 721?? ALLOCATED TO SYSPRINT
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 701?? ALLOCATED TO SYSIN
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF236I ALLOC. FOR SPICE2?? FORT
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 721?? ALLOCATED TO SYSPRINT
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 770?? ALLOCATED TO SYSPUNCH
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF237I 701?? ALLOCATED TO SYSIN
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEA700I 804-1 SPICE2?? FORT???? 00 FB004A08 00000800
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEF450I SPICE2? .FORT??? .???????? ABEND S804?????? TIME=10.03.02
?10.03.02 JOB??? 1 IEA702I 80A-1 HOSINITA SPICE2?? 00 FC000500 000004C8
?10.03.02 IEF450I INIT??? .HOSINITA.???????? ABEND S80A?????? TIME=10.03.02
So my question...? How do I get that 20,000 card deck into the system?
Is Jay Moseley's MAKETAPE program a reasonable approach?
Thanks,
Bill
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Re: TK4- On a Raspberry Pi
Works well on a pi zero too! Air 2
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On Jul 4, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Ed Liss <egliss4024@...> wrote:
?I did not believe that Hercules and TK4- would work well on a Raspberry Pi 4.? Being a RP4 rookie, I found a website that gave easy direction to downloaded and install Hercules and TK4-.? Sure enough - it worked.? It seemed to me to be as responsive as on my desktop winblows 10 box.? My first challenge is to change the sign on panel to read "My Raspberry Pi Thinks Its a Mainframe".
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I did not believe that Hercules and TK4- would work well on a Raspberry Pi 4.? Being a RP4 rookie, I found a website that gave easy direction to downloaded and install Hercules and TK4-.? Sure enough - it worked.? It seemed to me to be as responsive as on my desktop winblows 10 box.? My first challenge is to change the sign on panel to read "My Raspberry Pi Thinks Its a Mainframe".
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Re: MOTD. (Message of the day)
Hello Drew, Am 27.06.2020 um 20:59 schrieb Drew Derbyshire <swhobbit@...>: "No, no, NO! This is UNIX, you take the vowels out." Removing vowels sounds much more like OS/400. :-) cat, grep, awk, ifconfig, route, most "traditional" tools have vowels. :wq! PoC PGP-Key: DDD3 4ABF 6413 38DE -
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Michael Grom