Not dreaming, but I think that one wasn't JES2, it was asking why the IPL?
It's in TK3 and TK4 somewhere.
On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 9:47:49 AM EDT, Joe Monk <joemonk64@...> wrote:
Am i dreaming, or did I remember a usermod that eliminated the need for the "R 00,U" to the message at JES2 initialization?
Joe
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Hi,
If you transfer an XMI file (like RFE is), the receiving file has a record length of 80.
The blksize should be a multiple of 80.
Afterwards you can transfer in binary mode file rev370ld.xmi with IND$FILE to your system.
With PDSLOAD you can copy the file to a partitioned load library.
Copy this library (with RFE 3.3 or RPF 3.3) to SYS2.CMDLIB will complete your installation.
Cheers,
Rob
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To do a file transfer in your 3270, you can go to File then File Transfer.? Your record length is not an issue, you just need to ensure that you have a PDS allocated with record length of greater or equal to your record length.
Rahim?
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Carlos, Ind$file will transfer the files or ftpd ..you might watch this video from Moshix on the subject:
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On Oct 25, 2020, at 10:55 AM, carlos feldman <carlfelster@...> wrote:
? Hi Everyone,
I?m using Host explorer with Tk4- MVS, a distro fresh disk set.
when I select? option 1 RFE, this screen appears:
<dummyfile.0.part>
I can choose from this menu, options 1,2,6,x, and the screesn goest to the corresponding RFE.
Seems like some kind of configuration issue. How can I solve it ?
Funny thing is that with Vista Tn3270 terminal, things go smoothly.
I'm not a heavy user of Host Explorer, But I wanted to transfer files to MVS ( I cant use the reader, they are LRECL 170).
?
Regards
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Carlos
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Hi Everyone,
I?m using Host explorer with Tk4- MVS, a distro fresh disk set.
when I select? option 1 RFE, this screen appears:
I can choose from this menu, options 1,2,6,x, and the screesn goest to the corresponding RFE.
Seems like some kind of configuration issue. How can I solve it ?
Funny thing is that with Vista Tn3270 terminal, things go smoothly.
I'm not a heavy user of Host Explorer, But I wanted to transfer files to MVS ( I cant use the reader, they are LRECL 170).
?
Regards
?
Carlos
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Am i dreaming, or did I remember a usermod that eliminated the need for the "R 00,U" to the message at JES2 initialization?
Joe
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Re: Really, really valuable box of cards.
Oh and perhaps also as on the CCTECH list. Lots of people with card readers there.
Dave
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave
Wade via groups.io
Sent: 19 October 2020 10:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Really, really valuable box of cards.
Ted,
A few people still have real card readers.
There are some folks on the IBM1130 list that can do this.
I am sure Dave McGuire (I hope I have spelt that properly) who has a small
museum in Pittsburgh can read cards
and CHM in San Francisco has a reader on the IBM 1401 that can read to
emulated tapes that can be transferred
as for an ISPF like editor then "The Thomas Hessling" editor
has an ISPF compatibility mode. There are also a couple of ISPF "look a likes"
for MVS/380 but as I never was an ISPF user I can't comment.
If you want to try the Turnkey MVS (TK4-) one is installed there...
Dave
G4UGM
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Schwab
Sent: 19 October 2020 08:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Really, really valuable box of cards.
Try for a PC editor.
If not give Hercules MVS 3.8 Turnkey TK4- a shot. Requires an
additional
x3270 emulator download.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:09 AM Theodore M Rolle Jr
<stercor@...>
wrote:
I have a box of cards containing a S/370 assembler program I wrote
in the
1980s. The technology to make them into a file wasn't there (or I
didn't know about it).
It's a half-smart file copy that has the added advantage of
appending a
calendar to the output file. The calendar can be any base from 2 to 16.
Print a base-9 or base-11 calendar; it "looks" normal, but on
examination, strange.
It supports horizontal and vertical hex dumps, with and without
displaying
the characters.
I'm not above entering the cards by hand...
Is there an ISPF-like editor that implements tab stops at columns
10, 16, 31,
72?
I cannot compile Hybrid Editor XE on my Manjaro ARM Raspberry Pi 4B.
Does anyone know of a method that's easier?
Is there a better way to do this?
Ted
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| 3.14159 26535 89793 23846 26433 83279 50288 41971 69399 37510 |
| 58209 74944[59230 78164]06286 20899 86280 +------------------------------ --
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| 34825 34211 70679*82148 08651 32823 06647 | May the spirit |
| 09384 46095 50582 23172 53594 08128 48111 | of ¦Ð spread |
| 74502 84102 70193 85211 05559 64462 29489 | around the world. |
| 54930 38196 44288 10975 66593 34461 28475 | PI VOBISCUM! |
| 38196 44288 10975 66593 34461 28475 64823 +------------------------------- --
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+-------------------------------------------------------------------
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Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all?
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Re: Really, really valuable box of cards.
Ted,
A few people still have real card readers.
There are some folks on the IBM1130 list that can do this.
I am sure Dave McGuire (I hope I have spelt that properly) who has a small museum in Pittsburgh can read cards
and CHM in San Francisco has a reader on the IBM 1401 that can read to emulated tapes that can be transferred
as for an ISPF like editor then "The Thomas Hessling" editor
has an ISPF compatibility mode. There are also a couple of ISPF "look a likes" for MVS/380 but as I never was an ISPF user I can't comment.
If you want to try the Turnkey MVS (TK4-) one is installed there...
Dave
G4UGM
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike
Schwab
Sent: 19 October 2020 08:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Really, really valuable box of cards.
Try for a PC editor.
If not give Hercules MVS 3.8 Turnkey TK4- a shot. Requires an additional
x3270 emulator download.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:09 AM Theodore M Rolle Jr <stercor@...>
wrote:
I have a box of cards containing a S/370 assembler program I wrote in the
1980s. The technology to make them into a file wasn't there (or I didn't know
about it).
It's a half-smart file copy that has the added advantage of appending a
calendar to the output file. The calendar can be any base from 2 to 16.
Print a base-9 or base-11 calendar; it "looks" normal, but on examination, strange.
It supports horizontal and vertical hex dumps, with and without displaying
the characters.
I'm not above entering the cards by hand...
Is there an ISPF-like editor that implements tab stops at columns 10, 16, 31,
72?
I cannot compile Hybrid Editor XE on my Manjaro ARM Raspberry Pi 4B.
Does anyone know of a method that's easier?
Is there a better way to do this?
Ted
--
GnuPG/PGP key: 0xDD4276BA
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------+
| 3.14159 26535 89793 23846 26433 83279 50288 41971 69399 37510 |
| 58209 74944[59230 78164]06286 20899 86280 +-------------------------------- --|
| 34825 34211 70679*82148 08651 32823 06647 | May the spirit |
| 09384 46095 50582 23172 53594 08128 48111 | of ¦Ð spread |
| 74502 84102 70193 85211 05559 64462 29489 | around the world. |
| 54930 38196 44288 10975 66593 34461 28475 | PI VOBISCUM! |
| 38196 44288 10975 66593 34461 28475 64823 +--------------------------------- |
| 37867 83165 27120 19091 45648 56692 34603 48610 45432 6648... |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------+
--
Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA
Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all?
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Re: Really, really valuable box of cards.
I use Manjaro Linux on a RasPi 4B. SPFLite runs on Windows.
Try for a PC editor.
If not give Hercules MVS 3.8 Turnkey TK4- a shot.? Requires an
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Re: Really, really valuable box of cards.
Try for a PC editor.
If not give Hercules MVS 3.8 Turnkey TK4- a shot. Requires an
additional x3270 emulator download.
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:09 AM Theodore M Rolle Jr <stercor@...> wrote:
I have a box of cards containing a S/370 assembler program I wrote in the 1980s. The technology to make them into a file wasn't there (or I didn't know about it).
It's a half-smart file copy that has the added advantage of appending a calendar to the output file. The calendar can be any base from 2 to 16.
Print a base-9 or base-11 calendar; it "looks" normal, but on examination, strange.
It supports horizontal and vertical hex dumps, with and without displaying the characters.
I'm not above entering the cards by hand...
Is there an ISPF-like editor that implements tab stops at columns 10, 16, 31, 72?
I cannot compile Hybrid Editor XE on my Manjaro ARM Raspberry Pi 4B.
Does anyone know of a method that's easier?
Is there a better way to do this?
Ted
--
GnuPG/PGP key: 0xDD4276BA
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 3.14159 26535 89793 23846 26433 83279 50288 41971 69399 37510 |
| 58209 74944[59230 78164]06286 20899 86280 +----------------------------------|
| 34825 34211 70679*82148 08651 32823 06647 | May the spirit |
| 09384 46095 50582 23172 53594 08128 48111 | of ¦Ð spread |
| 74502 84102 70193 85211 05559 64462 29489 | around the world. |
| 54930 38196 44288 10975 66593 34461 28475 | PI VOBISCUM! |
| 38196 44288 10975 66593 34461 28475 64823 +---------------------------------|
| 37867 83165 27120 19091 45648 56692 34603 48610 45432 6648... |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
--
Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA
Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all?
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Re: Really, really valuable box of cards.
If the input file was a picture of Snoopy, it would print a Snoopy.?
Really popular during the holidays.
Operations would run it before payroll. That's how they saw it.? :)
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 01:09 Theodore M Rolle Jr via <stercor= [email protected]> wrote: I have a box of cards containing a S/370 assembler program I wrote in the 1980s. The technology to make them into a file wasn't there (or I didn't know about it).
It's a half-smart file copy that has the added advantage of appending a calendar to the output file. The calendar can be any base from 2 to 16. Print a base-9 or base-11 calendar; it "looks" normal, but on examination, strange.
It supports horizontal and vertical hex dumps,?with and without displaying the characters.
I'm not above entering the cards by hand... Is there an ISPF-like editor that implements tab stops at columns 10, 16, 31, 72? I cannot compile Hybrid Editor XE on my Manjaro ARM Raspberry Pi 4B.
Does anyone know of a method that's easier?
Is there a better way to do this?
Ted
-- ?GnuPG/PGP key: 0xDD4276BA
?+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ?| 3.14159 26535 89793 23846 26433 83279 50288 41971 69399 37510 ? ? ? ? ?| ?| ? 58209 74944[59230 78164]06286 20899 86280 +----------------------------------| ?| ? 34825 34211 70679*82148 08651 32823 06647 | ? ?May the spirit ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?| ?| ? 09384 46095 50582 23172 53594 08128 48111 ?| ? ? ?of ¦Ð?spread ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?| ?| ? 74502 84102 70193 85211 05559 64462 29489 | ? ?around the world. ? ? ? ? | ?| ? 54930 38196 44288 10975 66593 34461 28475 | ? ? ?PI VOBISCUM! ? ? ? ? ?| ?| ? 38196 44288 10975 66593 34461 28475 64823 +---------------------------------| ?| ? 37867 83165 27120 19091 45648 56692 34603 48610 45432 6648... ? ? ? ? | ?+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Really, really valuable box of cards.
I have a box of cards containing a S/370 assembler program I wrote in the 1980s. The technology to make them into a file wasn't there (or I didn't know about it).
It's a half-smart file copy that has the added advantage of appending a calendar to the output file. The calendar can be any base from 2 to 16. Print a base-9 or base-11 calendar; it "looks" normal, but on examination, strange.
It supports horizontal and vertical hex dumps,?with and without displaying the characters.
I'm not above entering the cards by hand... Is there an ISPF-like editor that implements tab stops at columns 10, 16, 31, 72? I cannot compile Hybrid Editor XE on my Manjaro ARM Raspberry Pi 4B.
Does anyone know of a method that's easier?
Is there a better way to do this?
Ted
-- ?GnuPG/PGP key: 0xDD4276BA
?+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ?| 3.14159 26535 89793 23846 26433 83279 50288 41971 69399 37510 ? ? ? ? ?| ?| ? 58209 74944[59230 78164]06286 20899 86280 +----------------------------------| ?| ? 34825 34211 70679*82148 08651 32823 06647 | ? ?May the spirit ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?| ?| ? 09384 46095 50582 23172 53594 08128 48111 ?| ? ? ?of ¦Ð?spread ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?| ?| ? 74502 84102 70193 85211 05559 64462 29489 | ? ?around the world. ? ? ? ? | ?| ? 54930 38196 44288 10975 66593 34461 28475 | ? ? ?PI VOBISCUM! ? ? ? ? ?| ?| ? 38196 44288 10975 66593 34461 28475 64823 +---------------------------------| ?| ? 37867 83165 27120 19091 45648 56692 34603 48610 45432 6648... ? ? ? ? | ?+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Re: MVS38J Page File Error
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, Bill Lewis wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 05:55 AM, Patrik Schindler wrote:
Hello Larry,
Am 08.10.2020 um 20:14 schrieb lbelmontes@...:
Perhaps unrelated to the Page File Errors, PC hibernation does not appear to play well with Hercules / MVS38J, in my experience.
>From your description, I'd deduct that your problems (page file errors, crashing bsppilot) arise solely from hibernation. I question that the console settings and IPL modes are involved at all.
In fact, I wouldn't wonder if doing something similar with current components would yield a similar instability: Such as running some hypervisor (Hyper-V, Vmware, etc.) integrated within a customer-grade OS and putting the hardware to
sleep while VMs are running.
Having a Windows host go to sleep while VMware is running several virual machines, both Windows
and Linux guests, works fine and nothing goes wrong when it wakes back up. At least in my experience.
Windows sends a signal, that it is about to sleep, to VMware, which then simulates the same thing into the guests.
Bill _._,_._,_ I've a couple of native Ubuntu systems, where hercules spinhawk emulator is running MVS3.8j, which most of the time are sleeping, I've never seen such error. Peppe.
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Re: MVS38J Page File Error
On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 05:55 AM, Patrik Schindler wrote:
Hello Larry,
Am 08.10.2020 um 20:14 schrieb lbelmontes@...:
Perhaps unrelated to the Page File Errors, PC hibernation does not appear to play well with Hercules / MVS38J, in my experience.
From your description, I'd deduct that your problems (page file errors, crashing bsppilot) arise solely from hibernation. I question that the console settings and IPL modes are involved at all.
In fact, I wouldn't wonder if doing something similar with current components would yield a similar instability: Such as running some hypervisor (Hyper-V, Vmware, etc.) integrated within a customer-grade OS and putting the hardware to sleep while VMs are running.
Having a Windows host go to sleep while VMware is running several virual machines, both Windows and Linux guests, works fine and nothing goes wrong when it wakes back up.? At least in my experience. Windows sends a signal, that it is about to sleep, to VMware, which then simulates the same thing into the guests. Bill
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Re: MVS38J Page File Error
Hello Larry, Am 08.10.2020 um 20:14 schrieb lbelmontes@...: Perhaps unrelated to the Page File Errors, PC hibernation does not appear to play well with Hercules / MVS38J, in my experience. From your description, I'd deduct that your problems (page file errors, crashing bsppilot) arise solely from hibernation. I question that the console settings and IPL modes are involved at all. In fact, I wouldn't wonder if doing something similar with current components would yield a similar instability: Such as running some hypervisor (Hyper-V, Vmware, etc.) integrated within a customer-grade OS and putting the hardware to sleep while VMs are running. :wq! PoC PGP-Key: DDD3 4ABF 6413 38DE -
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Re: MVS38J Page File Error
Thanks to all who responded to my Page File Error issue.? All of your feedback forced me to re-think and re-evaluate my configurations for each occurrence.? Let me summarize.
1)? Running my TK3 system with Hercules 3.07, 3.13 and Hyperion 4.2.1 (under Win 10 Pro and Win 7 Pro) using a 3270 master console without start-up and shutdown automation, I did not notice any page filer errors.? From memory, I remember some page file errors if my laptop hibernated.? Additionally, BSPPILOT crashed!? ?All startup and shutdown procedures required manual intervention.??
2) Running my TK3 system (as described above) using the INTEGRATED Hercules console with start-up (issue r 00,CLPA, etc.) and shutdown (F BSPPILOT,SHUTDOWN to Hercules EXIT) automation, no page file errors were noticed.? Again, if hibernation?occurred, I experienced BSPPILOT abending.?
3) Running my system (as described above) using the HERCGUI with a 3270 master console and HAO for start-up (issue r 00,CLPA, etc.) and shutdown (F BSPPILOT,SHUTDOWN to Hercules EXIT) automation, I entered the CLPA command (via the master console) to start the automated IPL process.? However, I noticed QUIESCE, at shutdown, issued via HAO on Hercules would fail as the HERCUI integrated console was NOT authorized to issue QUIESCE. I still experienced PAGE FILE ERRORS.? My work-around was to issue a V 009,MSTCONS on the 3270 master console to transfer master console status to the integrated console on HERCGUI.? Now, shutdown is fully executed including the QUIESCE via HAO.
Perhaps unrelated to the Page File Errors, PC hibernation does not appear to play well with Hercules / MVS38J, in my experience.??
I have set my laptop to never hibernate (power always on).? Unfortunately, I forfeit power conservation while on battery power, but this appears to be a requirement for HERCULES (3.07. 313 and HYPERION) and MVS38J.? I understand 'you do not pull the plug on a powered CPU', and perhaps this is the case in my scenario.?
This conclusion may appear to be a 'broken record' for experienced Hercules/MVS users, but I thought I would share my findings with the community.
Hope you find this helpful.
Thanks,
Larry Belmontes
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The formal module name is?AMASPZAP
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Sounds like something I should get.
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 16:31 Dennis Stone < dstone21@...> wrote:
If you have the source code files from the Turnkey system, it should
be there, for the MVS 3.8 release.? I couldn't tell you which
dataset, but I have searched them for things like the IFOX assembler
source and found it.
Dennis
On 9/27/20 4:22 PM, Theodore M Rolle Jr
wrote:
Is SuperZAP source code anywhere to be found?
Back in the day, we had all the IBM utilities
on microfiche.
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Dennis
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If you have the source code files from the Turnkey system, it should
be there, for the MVS 3.8 release.? I couldn't tell you which
dataset, but I have searched them for things like the IFOX assembler
source and found it.
Dennis
On 9/27/20 4:22 PM, Theodore M Rolle Jr
wrote:
Is SuperZAP source code anywhere to be found?
Back in the day, we had all the IBM utilities
on microfiche.
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Dennis
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Rob Prins
carlos feldman
Theodore M Rolle Jr