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Correct, and my userid has those permissions OPER and ACCT both defined.? MVS 3,8j, plain vanilla, does not appear to have a lot of security besides that.

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Thanks,

Dave – N8ZFM

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of "botongrui, aka τσ尘. via groups.io" <botongrui@...>
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Date: Monday, January 13, 2025 at 3:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Probably a stupid question - concerning Master Catalog Passwords
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Resent-Date: Monday, January 13, 2025 at 3:26 PM

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I have a vague memory that you needed to be a Sysprog / Operator defined tso user for some system functions rather than a plain tso user.

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It's a vague memory, but may be pertinent.

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On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 20:18, Dave Trainor - N8ZFM <dave@...> wrote:

Yes, and it gets the correct characters.

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Thanks,

Dave – N8ZFM

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Date: Monday, January 13, 2025 at 4:04 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Probably a stupid question - concerning Master Catalog Passwords
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Hi Dave,

If you use X3270 you can activate the trace and in the trace you can analyze what TSO receives when you enter the password.

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Le dimanche 12 janvier 2025 à 23:48:19 UTC+1, Dave Trainor - N8ZFM <dave@...> a écrit :

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You know I found in the message archive this -/g/H390-MVS/topic/hosed_password_for/74966269

From 2020 -? My problem is almost the same as what Doug was experiencing then, and it does not seem to have been answered, the root is the inability to enter the MCAT password from TSO.

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Thank you Marco for prompting me to google search IEC331I 056-012.

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Thanks,
Dave

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From:<[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Trainor - N8ZFM <dave@...>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2025 at 5:36 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Probably a stupid question - concerning Master Catalog Passwords
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Resent-Date: Sunday, January 12, 2025 at 5:36 PM

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The message logged on the console at the failure (in TSO) is:

??????????????? IEC331I ???056-012,DAVE????? ,IKJACCNT,RCU ,IGG0CLB6

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Which I agree means a “a security verification failed”.??? So my user account has authority.?? The obvious is that I can’t type SYSPROG correctly, but that is not the case.???

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Thanks,

Dave – N8ZFM

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From:<[email protected]> on behalf of "M Verpelli via groups.io" <marco.verpelli@...>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, January 12, 2025 at 3:22 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [H390-MVS] Probably a stupid question - concerning Master Catalog Passwords

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No magic secret here, or anywhere else in the universe as far as I know.
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t would be useful to know what message appears, not by magic, on the console. For example in case of wrong password

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IEC331I 056-002,HMVS01 ,IKJACCNT,RCU ,IGG0CLBM

return code 056 = a security verification failed
reason code 002 = the user did not have the required authority

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In case of other messages, it is necessary to verify which one it is and take the necessary measures reported in the sacred texts a.k.a. IBM manuals

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Marco

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