On Mar 24, 2025, at 9:42?AM, Richard Karash via groups.io <Richard@...> wrote:

Thanks, Bruce, see replies below...

On Mar 24, 2025, at 8:05?AM, Bruce Bowman via??<bowman46118@...> wrote:

On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 09:10 PM, Richard Karash wrote:

The problem: 100’s of our subscribers have received the Bounce Probe message, most have been suspicious and have trashed it.

A similar problem was recently reported in Group Managers Forum.?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/111805053? The common feature there is that all the people involved were on Special Notices delivery only. Such accounts can actually be dead for a long time, but not go into Bouncing status for the simple reason that nothing's ever been sent to them.

Got it. That’s not the case here, the “Email to you…” messages went to 100’s of regular subscribers.?

If you used the Easy Group Transfer from Yahoo Groups, you probably have many such accounts. Once they do receive a group email, they could all go into bouncing at once. This could be a post to a different group, direct mail sent by a group admin (through the??system), and actual Special Notice that you recently sent, or any notification/system message.

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Have you checked the Email Delivery History on any of these accounts? If the bounces originated from your own group, that should tell you something. If that turns up nothing, I'd send a separate message - using your own email address, outside of the group - to a few of these accounts. I suspect many - if not all - of those messages will bounce too, thus verifying there is no human on the other end.?

Yes. There’s a common element. A message from a valid subscribers, with a valid email domain, their domain went “absent” (DNS down??) briefly. That caused many subscribers’ incoming email servers to bounce the message, likely after a couple of days. That’s when the “email to you is bouncing” messages went out.?

People continuing to use an email address that doesn't work will have to either re-subscribe, or use the Change Email function, thus providing an email address that does. ?/helpcenter/single/membersmanual#accountsaccounts_abouthtm?

All the email addresses in question still work.?

My big question is what to do now.?

?- Subsribers properly are sceptical of a message saying “Urgent… click this link to resolve”, many have ignored or trashed the restore message

?- I cannot write them because the listserv thinks they are bouncing

?- Is there anyway, as owner, I can override their bounce status and write to them??

? ? ? -=- ?Rick

I acknowledge that much of the above is speculative, but lacking further information this is the best I can do.

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Hope this helps,

Bruce

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