PACC Digital Chair

#8371

Hi,

Just getting going with IO with 2 live suibgroups so far and I've been meaning to ask about integrations.? These sub groups are in relation to a club who's main web site and membership list are built on the Word Press platform.? One of the goals (longer term goal than avoiding Yahoo problems) is to have a discussion group like IO more tightly integrated with our WP system.?

The first goal is for the Groups to establish membership (at the group and sub-group level) based on various attributes of the Word Press Users table.? So, for example, our "Main" group as well as the members group in IO would be all the people who are "Active" in the WP Users Table.? The members of the IO "Board" subbgroup would be all the? people in WP who have a? role of? "Administrator", etc.? ?In other words as we make changes to users in WP (for example we deactivate them via a chron job when their membership expires unless they've paid dues for the following period) they would be added or removed from our IO group and appropriate Sub groups.? I'm not clear if this sort of thing is the intention of your Integrations feature or not, and if so what you have for Word Press?

The 2nd, and lower priority, is to have the groups tool embedded in WP (I guess as a plug in - I'm not a WP person).

Can someone let me know what we can do in this area?

thanks -- Dan

#8374

Dan . . .

On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:15:00 -0700, "PACC Digital Chair"
<digitalchair2@...> wrote:

The 2nd, and lower priority, is to have the groups tool embedded in WP (I guess as a plug in - I'm not a WP person).

Can someone let me know what we can do in this area?
I'm not a big WP person, either, but I have several WP handbooks and
once ran a WP web site. If you're thinking of migrating a Yahoo Group
to groups.io then eventually to a hosted site, consider this before
having to do the migration twice:


"Perhaps you're considering moving to phpBB or Wordpress or maybe you
just want a better way to search Yahoo groups.We offer a bespoke
migration service to a new forum or merge with an existing forum."

I am friends with the person who develops PG Offline and also the
above service but have not tried what he offers because I already
moved my groups to IO and I don't want to pay a monthly fee for a
hosting service, but you are thinking of using web hosting anyway, so
this might be the best approach. You can find an email link on his web
site and inquire about it. I would ask him if he has a sample WP or
phpBB site you can browse through to see what it looks like and how it
works, maybe get a referral to a group you can join to see how the
user experience is. While you're at it, you can ask for a referral to
both types of sites, one for WP and one for phpBB. That way you can
decide on which might be a better solution for you. Don't forget to
ask about how pictures, files, folders, etc., are handled. 

There are plugins for WP that will provide a forum. This is just a
sample of some easy ones (I have not tried any of these):




I would suggest, though, that you stick with dedicated forum software
that's full-featured like phpBB or vBulletin. Or one of the mailing
list software packages. 

Here are two aquarium fish related phpBB and vBulletin forums:


uses phpBB software (free)


uses vBulletin software (not free)

I actually set up a complete forum for an aquatic plant club for the
SW Ohio area using phpBB. It worked very well. The club fell apart
over time and now the web site and forum site is no longer hosted
anywhere. 

Putting the forum together was not a cake walk by any means, but I
never did one before and put it together in a week or two. It took a
lot of my evening time, so expect to spend some time with it. 

If you use dedicated bulletin board software, you will no doubt have
many more options to choose from to manage your board. I believe there
are plugins for these two packages, too. Most web hosting sites have
phpBB in their software control panel so it's easy to install. 

My other suggestion was to install Majordomo or Listserv mailing list
software (or similar) if all you need is a messaging system that
broadcasts all posts to all members. 

If you need an area for pictures, files, or other things, that's
beyond the scope of what I've done, but you should be able to find
software to install on your hosted site that can handle those. You
might even be able to find software that will handle everything
without using separate packages to take care of those features. 

The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who 
speak it.  --Selwyn Duke

Dan Hartford

#8375

Donald,

Thank you for your detailed reply.  I'll have to look through it in detail.
We already have our WP site so are already paying for hosting (BlueHost).
We're just looking for better integration than we had with Yahoo.  We
already have one step in that direction with the ability to Direct Add new
members to IO when they join the club.  It's manual but simple and we don't
have to get into that Invite, lost invitation, invite again, accept but
doesn't' put in real name, etc. cycle.  We also are not putting a link to
the Groups.IO message page on our site which may satisfy the Board that it's
integrated.

But you also provided some things to think about - at least in terms of 2nd
part.  

Thanks -- Dan

Show quoted text

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Donald Hellen
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 7:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

Dan . . .

On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:15:00 -0700, "PACC Digital Chair"
<digitalchair2@...> wrote:

The 2nd, and lower priority, is to have the groups tool embedded in WP (Iguess as a plug in - I'm not a WP person).

Can someone let me know what we can do in this area?
I'm not a big WP person, either, but I have several WP handbooks and
once ran a WP web site. If you're thinking of migrating a Yahoo Group
to groups.io then eventually to a hosted site, consider this before
having to do the migration twice:

"Perhaps you're considering moving to phpBB or Wordpress or maybe you
just want a better way to search Yahoo groups.We offer a bespoke
migration service to a new forum or merge with an existing forum."

I am friends with the person who develops PG Offline and also the
above service but have not tried what he offers because I already
moved my groups to IO and I don't want to pay a monthly fee for a
hosting service, but you are thinking of using web hosting anyway, so
this might be the best approach. You can find an email link on his web
site and inquire about it. I would ask him if he has a sample WP or
phpBB site you can browse through to see what it looks like and how it
works, maybe get a referral to a group you can join to see how the
user experience is. While you're at it, you can ask for a referral to
both types of sites, one for WP and one for phpBB. That way you can
decide on which might be a better solution for you. Don't forget to
ask about how pictures, files, folders, etc., are handled. 

There are plugins for WP that will provide a forum. This is just a
sample of some easy ones (I have not tried any of these):

I would suggest, though, that you stick with dedicated forum software
that's full-featured like phpBB or vBulletin. Or one of the mailing
list software packages. 

Here are two aquarium fish related phpBB and vBulletin forums:

ad=h
uses phpBB software (free)

uses vBulletin software (not free)

I actually set up a complete forum for an aquatic plant club for the
SW Ohio area using phpBB. It worked very well. The club fell apart
over time and now the web site and forum site is no longer hosted
anywhere. 

Putting the forum together was not a cake walk by any means, but I
never did one before and put it together in a week or two. It took a
lot of my evening time, so expect to spend some time with it. 

If you use dedicated bulletin board software, you will no doubt have
many more options to choose from to manage your board. I believe there
are plugins for these two packages, too. Most web hosting sites have
phpBB in their software control panel so it's easy to install. 

My other suggestion was to install Majordomo or Listserv mailing list
software (or similar) if all you need is a messaging system that
broadcasts all posts to all members. 

If you need an area for pictures, files, or other things, that's
beyond the scope of what I've done, but you should be able to find
software to install on your hosted site that can handle those. You
might even be able to find software that will handle everything
without using separate packages to take care of those features. 

The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who 
speak it.  --Selwyn Duke

#8376

Dan,

We also are not putting a link to the Groups.IO message page on our
site which may satisfy the Board that it's integrated."now"?

In any case, I'm by no means a WP expert, but you can also have linkage from the group's home page back to the WP blog using the embedding tools WP provides. For example:

Presumably the same thing would work on a group Wiki page, and possibly in a message or even the Guidelines.

Shal

-- 
Help: /static/help
More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki
Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list

#8377

Dan,

I contacted Wilson, the owner of the other group transfer service, to
find out more. If I find out anything interesting, I'll post it here. 

Donald

On Fri, 11 May 2018 19:51:09 -0700, "Dan Hartford"
<danhartfordphoto@...> wrote:

Donald,

Thank you for your detailed reply.  I'll have to look through it in detail.
We already have our WP site so are already paying for hosting (BlueHost).
We're just looking for better integration than we had with Yahoo.  We
already have one step in that direction with the ability to Direct Add new
members to IO when they join the club.  It's manual but simple and we don't
have to get into that Invite, lost invitation, invite again, accept but
doesn't' put in real name, etc. cycle.  We also are not putting a link to
the Groups.IO message page on our site which may satisfy the Board that it's
integrated.

But you also provided some things to think about - at least in terms of 2nd
part.

Thanks -- Dan
[excess quote trimmed by moderator]

Dan Hartford

#8387

开云体育

?

> We also are not putting a link to the Groups.IO message page on our

> site which may satisfy the Board that it's integrated.

?

Oops? - spell checker goof.? Meant to say "We ARE 辫耻迟迟颈苍驳…..”

?

"now"?

?

In any case, I'm by no means a WP expert, but you can also have linkage

from the group's home page back to the WP blog using the embedding tools

WP provides. For example:

?

Presumably the same thing would work on a group Wiki page, and possibly

in a message or even the Guidelines.

?

Shal

?

--

Help: /static/help

More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki

Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list

?