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QUESTION - group message links

Ellen Bourne
 

Is there away to block the groups distribution list link from being copied.

This is to prevent someone who is receiving emails to copy it and email the group at a latter time but not block the member.??

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On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:32 AM, Ellen Bourne wrote:

Is there away to block the groups distribution list link from being copied.

Can you share an example of the link you're thinking about? I'm not quite sure which feature you're asking about, and the answers vary based on which feature.

-- Christopher Warrington
Ellen Bourne
 

This is the copy and paste emailed that one member has been using to send emails.? They negate to use Groups.io to send emails.? They just place the below email into their personal email and send.? They cannot see why they cannot do this because it is an additional step.

However the email goes into the activity log once they emailed.

Is there away I could block the the copy and paste of the email link but not block the member?
 

Is this a roundabout way of saying you want all your members to go to the website to post messages, instead of mailing them in?

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 7:21 PM Ellen Bourne via <ELLEN_BOURNE=[email protected]> wrote:
This is the copy and paste emailed that one member has been using to send emails.? They negate to use Groups.io to send emails.? They just place the below email into their personal email and send.? They cannot see why they cannot do this because it is an additional step.

However the email goes into the activity log once they emailed.

Is there away I could block the the copy and paste of the email link but not block the member?
 

On 2020-07-17 at 4:34:54 PM, Ellen Bourne via groups.io <ELLEN_BOURNE@...> wrote:

This is the copy and paste emailed that one member has been using to send
emails.? They negate to use Groups.io to send emails.? They just place the
below email into their personal email and send.? They cannot see why they
cannot do this because it is an additional step. However the email goes
into the activity log once they emailed. Is there away I could block the
the copy and paste of the email link but not block the member?
[email protected]
<[email protected]>;?
I think you're asking if there's a way to prohibit posting to a group via
email and require all posts to use the web interface. I'm not aware of a
setting that allows that.

Imagine you had such a setting. How would take advantage of it? There may be
other ways to accomplish your overarching goal, if we know what it is.

--
Christopher W. <lists@...>
 

Hi Ellen

I can't tell you if you can block copy and paste, but I very much doubt it as its on the persons computer

What you need to do is educate your subscribers not to use copy and paste

As far as I can see they *are* using groups.io emails as they are using a groups.io address

Instead of using reply they are just creating the same email as though they used reply

You need to educate them to use the "From" personal address and not any with groups.io in , any address with groups.io in will go through the group and everyone will get a copy

Some email addresses are munged, so again its a matter of educating them how to spot them and how to deal with them

ie yours, change the = to @ and remove the @groups.io

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 18/07/2020 00:34, Ellen Bourne via groups.io wrote:
This is the copy and paste emailed that one member has been using to send emails.? They negate to use Groups.io to send emails.? They just place the below email into their personal email and send.? They cannot see why they cannot do this because it is an additional step.
However the email goes into the activity log once they emailed.
Is there away I could block the the copy and paste of the email link but not block the member?
Ellen Bourne
 

Is there a way to block on of the members coping the link and not complying to emailing through groups.io.
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The other question is how does the email he sends gets into the groups.io activity log?
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Ellen
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On Saturday, July 18, 2020, 07:24:36 AM EDT, Erikag59 <erikag59@...> wrote:
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Is this a roundabout way of saying you want all your members to go to the website to post messages, instead of mailing them in?

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 7:21 PM Ellen Bourne via <ELLEN_BOURNE=[email protected]> wrote:

This is the copy and paste emailed that one member has been using to send emails.? They negate to use Groups.io to send emails.? They just place the below email into their personal email and send.? They cannot see why they cannot do this because it is an additional step.
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However the email goes into the activity log once they emailed.
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Is there away I could block the the copy and paste of the email link but not block the member?
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I thought at first you had people wanting to email off the group but were using a group link

It gets in the group archives because they are posting to the group

I do not know a way of achieving what you want (web posts only) but why do you want to do that anyway?

Both email and web posts reach the same subscribers

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 18/07/2020 18:17, Ellen Bourne via groups.io wrote:
Is there a way to block on of the members coping the link and not complying to emailing through groups.io.
The other question is how does the email he sends gets into the groups.io activity log?
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Ellen Bourne
 

Nivard thank yiou very much
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The reason I want to block it is because there is a process to use groups.io.
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There was a glitch yesterday with their email provider which I had to try to resolve not knowing they were foing this nor did he want to say after nu.erous attempts to find our why and what happen. They knew They were doing something wrong which they dudnt wabtcto say anything?

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On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 2:51 PM, Nivard Ovington
<ovington.one@...> wrote:
I thought at first you had people wanting to email off the group but
were using a group link

It gets in the group archives because they are posting to the group

I do not know a way of achieving what you want (web posts only) but why
do you want to do that anyway?

Both email and web posts reach the same subscribers

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

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On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 02:08 PM, Ellen Bourne wrote:
The reason I want to block it is because there is a process to use groups.io
It appears to me that they're using it.? They're sending messages to the group.? If the group or person is moderated, it will go into the pending queue.? If not, it will go to the archive and be sent to members.? This process is the same whether they send the message via email or web.? I don't see what the problem is.

Duane
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Hi Ellen

I am still unsure why you are insisting that subscribers must post via the web?

All posts whether via email or the web page end up in the same system, they are all distributed to all subscribers, all posts end up in the archive

If a non subscriber tries to post it would end up with a moderator

I just can't quite see what would be achieved by demanding subscribers post via the web but perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are aiming to do

If an email provider has problems thats another issue

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 18/07/2020 19:57, Ellen Bourne via groups.io wrote:
Nivard thank yiou very much
The reason I want to block it is because there is a process to use groups.io.
There was a glitch yesterday with their email provider which I had to try to resolve not knowing they were foing this nor did he want to say after nu.erous attempts to find our why and what happen. They knew They were doing something wrong which they dudnt wabtcto say anything
Ellen Bourne
 

Nirvad
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I would like the user to use groups.io which I have been promoting to the group so to use there personal email to send would not be using the platform
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Thanks for the update on why the information would go to the activity log and archieve.
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On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:22 PM, Nivard Ovington
<ovington.one@...> wrote:
Hi Ellen

I am still unsure why you are insisting that subscribers must post via
the web?

All posts whether via email or the web page end up in the same system,
they are all distributed to all subscribers, all posts end up in the
archive

If a non subscriber tries to post it would end up with a moderator

I just can't quite see what would be achieved by demanding subscribers
post via the web but perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are aiming
to do

If an email provider has problems thats another issue

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

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Hi Ellen

But he/she *is* using the platform, whether they post from their email address *or* using the web page

Its the same thing with the same result

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 19/07/2020 09:14, Ellen Bourne via groups.io wrote:
Nirvad
I would like the user to use groups.io which I have been promoting to the group so to use there personal email to send would not be using the platform
Thanks for the update on why the information would go to the activity log and archieve.
 

Put the member on moderation and reject their messages if they violate your rules -- if you can even tell. If you can't tell how they posted, why does it matter?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 6:09 AM Ellen Bourne via <ELLEN_BOURNE=[email protected]> wrote:
Nirvad
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I would like the user to use which I have been promoting to the group so to use there personal email to send would not be using the platform
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Ellen . . .

On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 08:14:54 +0000 (UTC), "Ellen Bourne via groups.io"
<ELLEN_BOURNE@...> wrote:

I would like the user to use groups.io which I have been promoting to the group so to use there personal email to send would not be using the platform
There's no practical difference between posting by email or through
the web interface except some users have difficulty with the web
interface while they have no difficulty at all using email only to
post and read messages.

Either way they are using the GIO platform and it was set up
intentionally to be easy to use email to post/read messages with the
option to post/read using the web interface.

I don't see how you can force someone to not use one of the two
methods GIO was set up to allow posts from, and as far as I know you
can't force someone to read the messages using the web interface.

Donald


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On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 08:35 AM, Erikag59 wrote:
Put the member on moderation and reject their messages if they violate your rules -- if you can even tell. If you can't tell how they posted
You can tell how they posted if you view the source of the message.? It will show either "Web post" or an email address in the appropriate place in the source of the message.
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Bob Bellizzi
 

Ellen,

I would like the user to use groups.io which I have been promoting to
the group so to use there personal email to send would not be using
the platform
With Groups.io as it stands I think Erikag59 is right: you can only enforce web posting by moderation.

You can tell if a message in Pending or in the archive was posted by web or email: use View Source and look for a line in the header that says:

User-Agent: GROUPS.IO Web Poster

If that is not present then the posting was by email.

You aren't alone in wanting to restrict a group to web posting, a handful of people have suggested in the beta group that Groups.io should offer that ability.

Surprisingly (to me) the founder of the original GMF on YahooGroups wanted Yahoo to give him that ability. Back then the concern was that viruses and spammers were spoofing member addresses and getting their junk posted into his groups. That concern is a factor in the origin of GMF's 100% moderation policy (both GMFs, this one and the one on Yahoo Groups). A decade or more ago Email authentication techniques implemented at Yahoo Groups squashed almost all of the kinds of spoofing that had been causing that problem..

All that said, you are definitely swimming upstream in that desire. The founder describes Groups.io as "an email groups service". So I think it is unlikely that a web-only capability will ever be implemented.

/static/why

Shal


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