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Re: File renaming

 

It appears to be an attachment, not a link. I use Thunderbird to read my email, and that's how it shows up (in Yahoo groups, it's clearly a link, but groups.io seems to be sending them along as actual attachments). The problem is, it's not consistent. Most of the time, the dash comes through just fine, just some people seem to have them turned into underscores, and they swear they're not renaming them that way themselves (the software creates the files with the dash in the name). I'm just baffled as to why it's an issue for some, but not others. Thanks.


Re: Another Photo Album issue.

 

Hi
Then decided to look at a photo album to see if I could ascribe correct ownership to it. ? To my great surprise and concern, it had been done (was blank last week) with the name of the very recently approved member
FYI.? There's a thread on beta covering this same topic and a possible suggestion as to the reason why.



Andy


Re: File renaming

 

Hi Mike,
The problem appears to be that the dash after the C or F is getting turned into an underscore ("_")
I've just tried sending a message to one of my test subgroups with an attachment called C-Test1.lpf and it gets sent back to me and my other test account as that.? There is no renaming going on that I can see.

In an effort to eliminate the obvious, can you confirm that you are looking at an attachment when you receive a message and not just a link to it?? The settings to determine whether groups.io sends a file or a link are in the Advanced Preferences of the member settings for each group.

Regards,
Andy


Re: Message Edit

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 03:42 AM, Will Teagarden wrote:
If I tell it don't send it saves. If I tell it to send it still doesn't.?
I reported this to support and I've received a message from Mark to say it had been fixed.? I've just tested it and it works OK now.

Andy


Re: Calendar Cancellations Not Sending Updates #calendar #issue

 

The key issue we have is that virtually everyone is subscribed to a Gio calendar are are never using the web interface other than the first time when they subscribe to the cal. There is nothing to differentiate a real meeting from a cancelled one when viewed from a subscribed cal.
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Re: Honoring original Message-IDs in reflected messages

Jim Higgins
 

Received from Shal Farley at 3/7/2019 11:00 PM UTC:

You can already turn off the Message-ID substitution, with the downside that Gmail will not place the returned message in your Inbox (IIRC it does show as a second copy in your Sent folder). Or you can leave it on, with the downside that your user interface might have wanted to use the Message-ID for threading. I don't see that there's anything else Groups.io can do for you.

Yes!

I think it's time for Gmail users to give Groups.io a break and start asking Gmail to provide them with an option - or a more visible option that doesn't require asking GMF where to find it - that completely bypasses this nonsense that doesn't permit them to receive copies of their own messages sent from Gmail without unwanted side effects.

The problem is 100% with Gmail, not Groups.io. Like Microsoft, Google is the 500 lb gorilla who sleeps wherever the heck he wants to. If I had a gorilla wanting to sleep where I slept, I'd sleep elsewhere. There are less troublesome places than Gmail to use as an email provider.

Jim H


File renaming

 

Hello,

I run a couple of groups for baseball leagues, using APBA's Baseball for Windows. When people attach files, apparently some (though not all?) are getting renamed in a way that makes the software not recognize them as BBW files. The file names are in the format "C-[name].LPF" and "F-[name].LPF". The problem appears to be that the dash after the C or F is getting turned into an underscore ("_"), and this causes the software to ignore that when I try to load Commissioner or Franchise files. If I catch it when I save the attached files, I can rename them to the right format, but if I don't, I may think that someone has failed to send me a file at all. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

Thanks,
Mike


Re: Calendar Cancellations Not Sending Updates #calendar #issue

 

?When I sign up? for a webinar and it is subsequently cancelled, I get notification which is essentially like an RSVP
If I don't sign up and the webinar is cancelled, I'm not informed that it was cancelled except in a very small percentage of the time.
Also, if the webinar is cancelled I don't necessarily see a cancelled sign hung out on its' location either.

At least, if you cancel a meeting at gio (in a premium group) you get the opportunity to notify your RSVPs
AND the meeting grays out with a mouse over showing Cancelled

If people aren't interested in a meeting they most likely will not bother to click the Not Attending button and wouldn't care if the meeting disappeared without notice.
Unlike Google calendar, which only give delete and no cancel function.
Seems to me that's better than most calendar (free or very low cost) systems I've seen in my more than half century in software.
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Re: Message Edit

 

The most recent attempt had the same result. The writer of the initial post is not moderated and I am a group moderator.?

If I tell it don't send it saves. If I tell it to send it still doesn't.?


On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 18:53, Gerald Boutin
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On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 05:32 PM, Andy W wrote:Andy,?
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 08:04 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
I?just tested the?feature using a Chrome browser on Windows 10
I've just tested the same with Chrome and Windows 10 and the message edit is not saved and sent despite the message at the top of the screen saying so.? Another indication that it has not worked is that the message is not flagged as 'Edited'.? ?As before, Save and Don't Send works fine and the message is flagged as edited.


Andy, you initially said that "nothing happened". Now you say there is a message at the top of the screen.?What does the message say?

If the message at the top of the screen says "Your message edit has been sent", then please look in the Admin / Activity to see if there is a record of the Edit. If there is, then also look at the Activity / Members list and check the Email Activity of one or more users that have Delivery set to "Single" to confirm if there is a record of the messages going out.

Perhaps the messages are actually going out.
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Re: Honoring original Message-IDs in reflected messages

 

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:22 PM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
It's a common misunderstanding.

Groups.io never fails to send your own emailed posts back to your email. Assuming of course that your subscription is set up to receive all messages by email.

The issue is that Gmail customarily "hides" them (puts them into your Sent folder, not your Inbox). So most Gmail users' impression (including those using a POP or IMAP client) is that Groups.io isn't returning their messages - unless the Message-ID substitution option (I always want copies of my own emails) in their Account Preferences is checked.
Ah, perfect! Thank you for your help in understanding this matter.

I'll have that user uncheck their "I always want copies of my own
emails" so that they don't see this issue and return to testing.

Kind regards,
Stephano


Re: Calendar Cancellations Not Sending Updates #calendar #issue

 

Thanks for the insight Duane.
Definitely a substantial challenge for broad based community utilization and acceptance and one we are struggling with, because folks figure when they've cancelled something, everyone gets notified.

Did a quick scan of beta but didn't see anything relative to this, so guess where I'm headed next ;-)

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Re: Honoring original Message-IDs in reflected messages

 

Stephano,


Hmm, perhaps I'm misunderstanding the issue. Is there a way to turn
off the Message-ID substitution, but still have Groups.io send *all*
emails to my account (including those sent by me)?

It's a common misunderstanding.

Groups.io never fails to send your own emailed posts back to your email. Assuming of course that your subscription is set up to receive all messages by email.

The issue is that Gmail customarily "hides" them (puts them into your Sent folder, not your Inbox). So most Gmail users' impression (including those using a POP or IMAP client) is that Groups.io isn't returning their messages - unless the Message-ID substitution option (I always want copies of my own emails) in their Account Preferences is checked.
Shal


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Re: Message Edit

Gerald Boutin
 

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 05:32 PM, Andy W wrote:Andy,?
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 08:04 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
I?just tested the?feature using a Chrome browser on Windows 10
I've just tested the same with Chrome and Windows 10 and the message edit is not saved and sent despite the message at the top of the screen saying so.? Another indication that it has not worked is that the message is not flagged as 'Edited'.? ?As before, Save and Don't Send works fine and the message is flagged as edited.


Andy, you initially said that "nothing happened". Now you say there is a message at the top of the screen.?What does the message say?

If the message at the top of the screen says "Your message edit has been sent", then please look in the Admin / Activity to see if there is a record of the Edit. If there is, then also look at the Activity / Members list and check the Email Activity of one or more users that have Delivery set to "Single" to confirm if there is a record of the messages going out.

Perhaps the messages are actually going out.
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Re: Message Edit

Leeni
 

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I was just fooling around with some pending messages in one of my groups.
I was able to edit the message and save.
The edit took place.?Since we are just letting the messages stay pending until March 14th I did nothing with them.
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When March 14th comes around I will?click approve.
I hope that it works and even though it is?showing the what I edited was gone it will be gone when it goes through to the group.
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Date: 3/7/2019 2:04:33 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Message Edit
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On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 07:21 PM, Will Teagarden wrote:
Hello,

I am having a bit of a problem with the edit message feature. I tried to edit one of the messages of my group earlier this evening and when I clicked on Save and Send to Group it did nothing. If I clicked Save and Don't Send it saved the updates. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,
I?just tested the?feature using a Chrome browser on Windows 10 and it is working properly here.?The edited message is now shown online and emails go out to subscribers.

Is the issue reproducible?
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Re: Honoring original Message-IDs in reflected messages

 

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 3:04 PM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

What would the feature be?

You can already turn off the Message-ID substitution, with the downside that Gmail will not place the returned message in your Inbox (IIRC it does show as a second copy in your Sent folder). Or you can leave it on, with the downside that your user interface might have wanted to use the Message-ID for threading. I don't see that there's anything else Groups.io can do for you.
Hmm, perhaps I'm misunderstanding the issue. Is there a way to turn
off the Message-ID substitution, but still have Groups.io send *all*
emails to my account (including those sent by me)?

Cheers,
Stephano


Re: Message Edit

 

Bruce


I now suspect that some group setting may be affecting it.

Or perhaps the user's Posting Privileges. Edits require moderation if performed by a member and a post by that member would require moderation. Perhaps that's somehow messing up the web interface for a moderator attempting to Save and Send.

Shal


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Re: Honoring original Message-IDs in reflected messages

 

Stephano,


What do you recommend for a workaround for those who like the feature
(I always want copies of my own emails) but whose MUA works correctly?

I'm not the best person to ask, I tend not to use Thunderbird's thread view, and particularly not the Gmail web interface "Conversations" view. I'm happy just to have my messages land in the Inbox so that I can easily put them into my GMF folder (in Thunderbird's Local Folders) along with other people's messages.
Thoughts? Perhaps a feature request?

What would the feature be?

You can already turn off the Message-ID substitution, with the downside that Gmail will not place the returned message in your Inbox (IIRC it does show as a second copy in your Sent folder). Or you can leave it on, with the downside that your user interface might have wanted to use the Message-ID for threading. I don't see that there's anything else Groups.io can do for you.

Shal

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Re: Message Edit

 

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 04:32 PM, Andy W wrote:
I've just tested the same with Chrome and Windows 10 and the message edit is not saved and sent despite the message at the top of the screen saying so.
Like Gerald, I have been unable to reproduce this problem, using the same OS/browser combo.

At the time, I assumed that Mark was just quick to fix it...I now suspect that some group setting may be affecting it.

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Re: Message Edit

 

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 08:04 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:
I?just tested the?feature using a Chrome browser on Windows 10
I've just tested the same with Chrome and Windows 10 and the message edit is not saved and sent despite the message at the top of the screen saying so.? Another indication that it has not worked is that the message is not flagged as 'Edited'.? ?As before, Save and Don't Send works fine and the message is flagged as edited.

Andy?


fyi: Update, on Earthlink and Groups.io

 

Folks: One quick update to the Earthlink-and-Groups.io saga that I've recently posted about.

A couple of days ago, I sent a feedback message to Earthlink, asking them to whitelist Groups.io because emails sent from 66.175.222.12 were definitely not Spam.

Just now, someone from Earthlink actually called me to follow up on my message. I talked through the things I was experiencing -- and emphasized the points that Groups.io admins recently cited on this forum: Groups.io emails are definitely not Spam; if Earthlink wouldn't block Yahoogroups or Google Groups emails, then it shouldn't block Groups.io; and the Groups.io IP addy should be whitelisted.

The customer service rep on the phone seemed to understand what I was trying to express ... so ... hopefully, we won't have to revisit this topic <<fingers crossed>>

:-)

Regards.
Junu Kim