Dotty,

I would particularly like to see a link to Group Home.

Mark may have been too clever by half. The group's email address appears in the Digest header and the footer, and it is a link - to the group's home page. That leaves:

Contact Group Owner
Terms Of Service

I agree that not having those seems like an oversight. I encourage you to suggest them in the beta group.


Shal

Hi everyone,
As "duh" as this sounds, could someone definitively explain how the Special Notice option works? I know how to do it - I'm just confused about how it is delivered. I thought it was to deliver to everyone, regardless of delivery option, other than those with "No Email". The purpose being, I thought, was to not only to immediately deliver the note that is the Special Notice to those receiving individual emails but also to those on digest option, so as to avoid the "digest delay".

Now I'm hearing rumors that that is not how it works.

Help?
Thanks much,
Ginny

I've noticed that there is a set of links available at the bottom of Individual messages from groups.io, that do not appear at the bottom of Digest messages.?

The Individual messages have the standard reply options (View/Reply online, Reply to Group, Reply to Sender, Mute this Topic, New Topic).? Then below that, there are the additional options (Change Subscription, Group Home, Contact Group Owner, Terms of Service, Unsubscribe).?

When messages are received in Digest form, there are the standard reply options listed under each message.? But the additional options available in Individual form, are not shown below the final message in the Digest.? There does appear at the very top of the Digest, the link to Change Subscription.? And at the very bottom, a link to Unsubscribe.?

I think the additional options should be added to the bottom of the Digest form, as they could be useful to any subscribers, regardless of their choice of message delivery.
I would particularly like to see a link to Group Home.? I keep getting questions from my "older" members (I'm one of them), who aren't sure how to get to the website to view photos or files that are mentioned in their email messages.? They were used to clicking on the thumbnails in the Y!Group Update messages that told them photos had been added.? (One of the few things about Y! that I miss.? That, and the options for reorganizing photos.? But I understand those things are perhaps on the ToDo list.)

I checked the settings for my group, to make sure there was nothing i could change.? I also have a couple of test subscriptions so that I can see messages as non-owners are seeing them, both on Individual and Digest delivery.? Am I missing something?

Dotty

Leroy

Thank You

Joe

Sharon,

1. Archives — How long are messages in the archives preserved?

Indefinitely. As long as Groups.io remains in business I think.

2. Subscription Options -- I want to be able to send special notices
that are delivered to everyone immediately no matter what their
subscription options are.

There's a "Disable No Email" group option so that members would have to select at least Special Notices. Of course, you can't be sure that members look at their inbox, or don't have a mail filter, etc.

3. Subscription Options — who can send special notices? Everyone,
moderators, subscribers?

Moderators.

4. Group Settings — Under Group settings the icons are confusing:

And pretty much meaningless. I think they were originally intended to match the option - as the reverse arrow suggests "reply". But Mark soon ran out of icons, and/or imagination.

5. Subgrouos — Can main group members send messages to a subgroup If
they are not a subscriber to it?

Optional, sort-of.

Subgroups have the "Allow Non Subscribers to Post" option just like primary groups, but it works the same - allows anyone (general public) to post (all such postings are moderated). I've asked for a subgroup setting to specifically allow primary group members to post unmoderated, but it was a side conversation under a different topic. So perhaps it should be raised again in a topic of its own.

6. Time Stamps — Several members of our Tech Pod were going through
all the settings and joining and approving members, etc. We notices
that the time stamps were different on the same messages. Shouldn’t
those all be the same ...

No. Each member sees times expressed in their own time zone, per their Account setting.

Shal

Sharon,

Which raises another question —I’m assuming people can have different
subscription options on subgroups?

Yes. Different Profile information too if they want. And of course you can also give them different posting privileges.

Shal

Mike,

... And I changed the "Welcome" statement by asking them ...
...
I would much prefer to get this message to the new applicant BEFORE he
joins the group, not after.

Instead of asking in your Welcome message, you could create a "Pending Subscription" member notice. That will be sent when they apply for membership. Then you can leave their application pending until you get their reply.
/static/help#membernotices

Shal

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On Feb 3, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Unless you specify NOT to copy the Y!Group's membership, each (non-bouncing) email in the Y!Group will be added to the subgroup, AND to the primary group if not already a primary group member.

Those in the subgroup who don’t want messages from the main group could go nomail just on the main group.

Which raises another question —I’m assuming people can have different subscription options on subgroups?

Sharon
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Sharon,

When people sign into the website for the first time, they have to set
up a password. There is no message that tells them that.

That's because setting a password is optional.

One can operate perfectly well using the "Email me a link to log in" button when needed, and never use a password.

You can click on forget password but it’s confusing because people
don’t have one.

I think rewording that is a good idea. Perhaps something like:
"Forgot your password, or want to set one?"
("I prefer "forgot", "forget" sounds too much like it could be a command telling the site to forget one's password.)

I encourage you to post that in beta.

If they enter a password and confirm it from an email, it isn’t “set”.

I'm not sure what this means. Did they use the "Sign Up" link on the site and enter an email address and password there? That would certainly set their password, but they'd still have to confirm their email address by responding to the email Groups.io sends to them.

It’s a different process to set the email on their account page. That
drop down is in the upper right corner, not in the left menu.

Again I'm confused about the context. Different than what? I don't think there's anything on the left menu that lets you change your email address, only the Account page.

Unless they follow that separate process, they have to sign in each
time they go to the website.

That's never true, unless you log out or you clear your browser cookies (and some people do use security settings which clear cookies after each session). Otherwise a log-in lasts for 30 days before you must log in again.

Are they doing something wrong? Missing something?

I think so. The Sign Up and Log In flows at Groups.io were honed aggressively during the early years to make them as simple as practical.

The only aspect I can think of that is unusual or may seem magical is that certain of the emails sent by Groups.io in those flows contain links which, when followed, will log them into the site. While logged in that way they can set a password, if desired, or just use the site.

If these people can outline exactly what they did, and what the site presented to them, then perhaps we can figure out where they went wrong, or where the site can be improved.

Key fact: if the upper right corner is showing your name, then you're logged in. Hover there to see the email address for the account (the email address you are logged in with). If the upper right corner shows your email address instead then you haven't yet set a display name for your account.

Shal

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Questions:

Yes, there's an item on the TODO list that should cover it,

Duane

Hello ..

a question - might there be plans for an enhancement of the search function for groups ..?

some members from my lists think that thi might be more comfortable and powerful.

one example: "I wanted to search for popular music groups. I could type in music and get music, mostly with few members or messages, or i can type in popular and get a bunch of active groups i couldn't care less about."

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markus

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Email from my mobile connection.

Nancy,

I was just thinking how nice it would be to have that photo (usually a
member’s handmade item) at the top of the daily digest.

I like that suggestion. I encourage you to "drop it in the suggestion box", that is post it in beta.


Shal