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Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer

 

Do you know how a transfer works when the transfer is setup for a subgroup? ?The easy transfer let me initiate the transfer into a subgroup, but reading the docs on subgroups it says that all members of a subgroup also needs to be a member of the parent group. ?Not sure how this will work with the transfer of member information.
-Brian
Re: Clarification regarding moving a Yahoo group to a groups.io subgroup #transfer #subgroups

 

Thank you for answering my questions. This is so straightforward. Thank you!

cheers,
Jane
Locked Re: Latest info on the Pricing Structure #admin

 

Thank you! That was very decent of Mark.?

Susan B
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Folks -- Appended below is the latest from Mark on the pricing structure.

Bottom line: the requirements for a Basic group will remain unchanged for now.

Bruce

[Overquote trimmed by Moderator]
Re: Notice of Pricing Change

 

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Deane
You said it! The cost is horrendous. We do need protection laws.?

Susan B


On Oct 22, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Deane <deanerimerman@...> wrote:

We're all having sleepless nights for sure!!!

In reading all the posts in this and the beta forum everyone is doing the best they can and it's great to people being so civil despite such a horrible moment in internet history... And how many of us are so busy rescuing the most important stuff that we've barely had a chance to warn everyone else? Hard times! More sleepless nights to come!

I feel so awful for so much that's going to be lost, especially among our elders who have already passed on who's only record of their online writings are going to be in these yahogroups emails... And all the pet and people adoption groups, the genealogy groups... It's like bulldozing a one-of-a-kind library without taking the books out first.

At some point we need online data protection laws so the cost of deleting decades of archives after a merger is way, way more expensive than maintaining them.

I've no doubt that scholars, researchers and historians will be referencing this event for many decades to come!

Be well, Deane
NC Status

 

After trying several things, the NC went away. ?
Moderators Unable to Approve Members and Messages

 

I have a new group with two moderators. Both of them are unable to approve members and messages. They do receive notification e-mails that a member or message must be approved. However, when they click on the e-mail's link for "View Pending Member" or "View this message online," they are shown a page that says "You do not have permission to access that page." (They are logged in at the time.)

Also, on the web interface they only see one option (Activity) under Admin. (Regular users see none and moderators should see all, including Members, etc.)

Any help is appreciated.

Ron
Re: Issue sending invitations to "unnamed" addresses

 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:57 PM, Jim Fenton wrote:
it appears I should have left the
angle brackets off the second address
Yes, that's what happened.? I'm also a bit surprised that it didn't generate some sort of error.

Duane
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Importing messages

Dawn Chamberlin
 

Hi! I am new to groups.io.? I was wondering, is there a way of importing messages from another group into groups.io? If so, how do I do this? Thank you for your help!

Dawn
Re: Group transfer without members #yahoo

 

I think I found the answer on an earlier thread:
So if you leave the members behind during a transfer, that message will no longer be associated with any "posterid" within groups.io, because such an account does not exist. For example, you won't be able to "find" other posts by that person by searching on "all posts by this member." But the text metadata?will remain in the message base, whether the associated member is migrated or not. Specifically, the from address is not munged or changed to "anonymous."
Source: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/19979

So I think the answer is, yes it will show the original poster addresses / names but they won't be associated with the user on Groups.io and even if that same user gets added later, they still won't be associated.

I don't think this will be a problem for us.

Thanks,
Su
Issue sending invitations to "unnamed" addresses

 

I just invited a number of people to my new group using the "Upload
Addresses" feature on the group Invite page. Addresses with personal
names were sent OK, but those that didn't have a name seem to have been
dropped. For example

John Doe <jdoe@...>
<xyzzy@...>

The invitation was sent to the first address, but not to the second.
Looking at the Invite page again, it appears I should have left the
angle brackets off the second address, and I'll do that. But I'm a
little troubled that it dropped these addresses silently rather than
putting something in the activity log.

But thanks for the detailed error messages on the addresses that were
invalid!

-Jim
Re: Clarification regarding moving a Yahoo group to a groups.io subgroup #transfer #subgroups

 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:43 PM, Jane Valencia wrote:
1) Is it possible to move a yahoo group directly to the subgroup? I understand that they will be members of the main group too. Or does the group get transferred to the main group and I (or they) subscribe them to the subgroup?

2) What happens with this list's archived info? Can it go directly under the sub group and not be mixed in with the main group's archive (my ideal)?

3) If there's a way to transfer the second Yahoo Group directly to the subgroup, we're not seeing how to do it via the "Easy Transfer .." pages. Can someone walk me through this?
1) The second group would be transferred directly to the subgroup.? All members there would be added to the main group and the subgroup.? They'd be added to the subgroup, but not the main group if they're already members from your first transfer.)

2) Whatever you choose as part of what's transferred, they'll be put into the subgroup.

3) On the transfer page, enter the subgroup name as the destination instead of the main group.

Duane
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Re: Not Confirmed member (NC) behind member name

 

You might try sending a message directly to the address. Sometimes
message from Groups.io can end up in someone's spam folder or be
ignored. I try resending the confirmation email a couple of times. I
can't recall there is an error message in the Email Activity messages if
this bounces. If there is a typo then sending a message directly will
let you know. If it doesn't bounce then it may be that the person
doesn't realize they have to confirm their address and are ignoring the
messages. I've sometimes had to remind people several times, directly,
to respond to one of the confirmation messages. Here is my routine
dealing with this.

- Resend the confirmation email a few times

- At that point send an email directly to their address.

- If this email bounces remove them from the list.

- If it doesn't bounce leave them on the list and wait for their response.

- Try again a few times and then remove them from the list and send them
an invitation to join the list.

They won't have to confirm their address with an invitation, since
they will respond to the invitation in order to accept it and that will
confirm that it was the correct address.

Jonathan

On 10/22/2019 4:30 PM, Duane wrote:
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:07 PM, Patty Halverson wrote:

One member shows NC behind their name.

Once in awhile someone makes a typo on their email address, so the
Confirmation Email doesn't actually go to a real address.? I resend the
notice once, then wait a week.? If it gets confirmed, all is well.? If
it doesn't, I assume it was a typo and remove it.? I do have a Removed
Member notice set up that says, "Your email address hasn't been
confirmed, so you've been removed from the group.? You may rejoin, but
be sure to click on the link in the email you receive from Groups.io to
confirm your email address." just in case they've overlooked it.

Duane
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Re: Delivery of Yahoo Group Messages

 

Thanks, Larry. That will be a useful template when the transfer is complete for my group.

Mark Karney? N9JWF
Listowner [email protected]
Re: Notice of Pricing Change

 

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Indeed Deane, Don't forget to cc your thoughts to the Verizon corporate offices and their board of directors to let them know how you will feel about using any Verizon products in the future?

Charlie

From: deanerimerman@...
Sent: October 22, 2019 17:18
Subject: Re: [GMF] Notice of Pricing Change

We're all having sleepless nights for sure!!!

In reading all the posts in this and the beta forum everyone is doing the best they can and it's great to people being so civil despite such a horrible moment in internet history... And how many of us are so busy rescuing the most important stuff that we've barely had a chance to warn everyone else? Hard times! More sleepless nights to come!

I feel so awful for so much that's going to be lost, especially among our elders who have already passed on who's only record of their online writings are going to be in these yahogroups emails... And all the pet and people adoption groups, the genealogy groups... It's like bulldozing a one-of-a-kind library without taking the books out first.

At some point we need online data protection laws so the cost of deleting decades of archives after a merger is way, way more expensive than maintaining them.

I've no doubt that scholars, researchers and historians will be referencing this event for many decades to come!

Be well, Deane
Re: [email protected] e-mail address?

 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:40 PM, Rail Scan wrote:
Does the [email protected] address generate any sort of acknowledgement
It used to send an automated reply, but that's been delayed a bit (up to 2 days in one case that I'm aware of) recently.? I think some of it is from the extra load of transfers, but that's just a personal guess.

Duane
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Clarification regarding moving a Yahoo group to a groups.io subgroup #transfer #subgroups

 

Hello,
I successfully moved a Yahoo group here to groups.io. Now I want to move another Yahoo group over to become a sub group.
Two questions:

1) Is it possible to move a yahoo group directly to the subgroup? I understand that they will be members of the main group too. Or does the group get transferred to the main group and I (or they) subscribe them to the subgroup?

2) What happens with this list's archived info? Can it go directly under the sub group and not be mixed in with the main group's archive (my ideal)?

3) If there's a way to transfer the second Yahoo Group directly to the subgroup, we're not seeing how to do it via the "Easy Transfer .." pages. Can someone walk me through this?

Basically I'd love for this second Yahoo group to be self-contained as as a sub group, as much as possible. Just wondering what I'm able to do.

Thank you!
Jane
Re: Delivery of Yahoo Group Messages

 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:07 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:
I encourage you to complete registration of yourself at groups.io by entering your email address and selecting a personal password at this website:

/register
I'd change that to include instructions for logging in without a password - /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-in-and-How-to-Set-a-Personal-Password? They've already been registered and have an account if you transfer the group from Yahoo.

Duane
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Re: Notice of Pricing Change

 

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It is a few years, definitely at least 3 or 4, that a friend and I tried to get yahoo to elevate my friend (who was a moderator) to owner and me to co-owner as new membership applications had to be approved and she couldn¡¯t do it. ?The owner had gone missing and totally ignored any attempts to get in touch with her.

We never got any helpful response from yahoo at all and the group died.
So yahoo ignoring the needs of groups is not a new thing. ?And absent owners and the failure by yahoo to help and support the memberships of those groups have always been a problem with yahoo groups.
Barbara

On 22 Oct 2019, at 22:06, Susan B <doggiesmail@...> wrote:

?Don all that¡¯s true and some have stepped up. But this group has an absentee owner, yahoo cannot be reached to ask them to make me a mod with invite privileges so I had to give up and get a free basic forum into which I will manually import whatever I can and take a considerable hit to my time (which I have little of) to preserve what I can from the yahoo group. I was and am upset that we were not given more time before the fee went up to see what we could do. So I had a mostly sleepless night.?
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Susan B

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On Oct 22, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Don Grass <dgrass1@...> wrote:

I can understand your situation, but I think the real bad guy here is Yahoo. Yahoo has caused all this commotion, and is trying to offer you a way to keep your group. If there was no place to transfer to like you would lose your group anyway, so can I suggest you pass the collection plate around to your membership if you can¡¯t personally afford it, and ask your membership to help you out this time. You would be surprised how many people will offer to chip in, just as I found out last year when I transferred my group.

Don

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[email protected] e-mail address?

 

Hi All,
My first day posting here. Does the [email protected] address generate any sort of acknowledgement indicating mail sent there was successfully receiveed and in queue for an eventual response? I wrote approx 18 hours ago about a free to premium upgrade failure and am not sure what type of response to expect during this busy time.

Thanks,
Charlie
Re: Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer

 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 04:08 PM, KATHLEEN DESMAISONS wrote:
when we make [email protected]?a moderator do we need to set the privileges in any particular way?
No.? As a matter of fact, it doesn't need any privileges/permissions.

Duane
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