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Re: Help with transfer of an "orphaned" Yahoo group #pgoffline

 

I understand if you are not with the tools to do anything and more than likely most members are on no mail but maybe post to those groups that you would like for them to join you over at xyz group that you created on IO groups ? Groups that have been stagnate for along time seems Yahoo could just delete the group . I came across one a couple years ago there was no posts for over 3 years .The owner had died the moderator left so it sets .

On 10/19/2019 10:51 PM, Adam Farson wrote:

I am trying to transfer the following Yahoo group to groups.io:

This is an amateur radio technical group. The problem I am encountering is as follows: Although I am a moderator on this group, the owner pa3duv@...) did not give me the privilege of elevating members to moderator status. I have created the member [email protected], but cannot elevate it to moderator and am thus unable to start the transfer process.


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Re: Can I transfer multiple yahoo groups to subgroups of a main group? #transfer

 

The one catch is that all members of a Groups.io subgroup must also be a member of the associated primary group. So as you do the transfers into subgroups, any addresses not already in the primary group will be automatically added to both the subgroup and primary group.
Reading this:

So If you start out with the subgroups, not the primary, the primary will be populated automagically.

Then could the primary be moderated for announcements pertinent to all subgroups?


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Re: $110 transfer question about attachments.

Stinson Webmaster
 

Thanks Ben, is this script similar to what PG Offline application it is the script a tool to move that saved info into GIO?

thanks just trying to learn


Re: Goodbye Yahoo Groups 20 limit

Pablo Sanchez
 

Hi Sharon,

When I did my migration from Y!G last week, I put all 1,000+ email addresses in a file and uploaded the addresses.? See the bottom of the invite screen.

It took about an hour for the request to be approved.? At which point, when I clicked on?Sent Invitations, I was able to see they had all gone out (and which bounced).? My workflow was the following:

  1. Initial bulk invite to Y!G in conjunction with a?Y!G?Special Notice so people wouldn't freak out.? ;)
  2. As people signed up, I received a boatload of notifications (as configured).
  3. Two days later, I went back to the?Sent Invitations screen and culled all those that?Accepted (I wanted to keep track) and I resent the invitations.? Once again, in conjunction with a Y!G?Special Notice
The last four days I've been doing the last step once a day.? Tonight (local time) I'm going to?soft close my Y!G (flip it to moderate all messages).? I'll leave it be for a week and delete it.? During this final week, if there are any posts to Y!G, I'lll reply to them to join the new group.?

My migration was relatively easy because I had no content to preserve.? I just needed to migrate 1,000+ subscribers.? As of this writing, 650+ came over.? No time like now to clean house!? :)

-pablo??


Re: Goodbye Yahoo Groups 20 limit

 

Holy cow 600K? Ok yes I understand .Now the other question is it 20 per day per group? or 20 total from your email address?
On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 8:30:30 AM CDT, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:


On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 09:26 AM, Sharon Pohlman wrote:
What? when transferring members yourself you can only do 20 per day? I thought you could do all of them or like yahoo 100 per day but 20?wow
Sharon -- This is completely wrong.

You can invite as many as you want, but if you invite more than 20 in one day, they will be reviewed before going out, to ensure you are not a spammer. This was implemented two years ago when someone created a group and invited 600,000 subscribers.

Please read?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/20-Invitations-Limit?and come back with any further questions.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer

Kent B. Lewis
 

Hi Bruce

Thanks for the quick response. We should be good to go, double checked, we have the message -? "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite.

Time to make some chili and watch football...

Cheers
Kent
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On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 7:51 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 08:37 AM, Kent B. Lewis wrote:
Can it take a day or two for the "[email protected]" member record to show up in Yahoo? I don't see it yet.
Kent -- Yes. In the past, it has sometimes taken much longer than "a day or two" to move forward from here...but under the circumstances I believe Mark is fully committed to processing Yahoo transfers, and is putting most of his other responsibilities on the back burner.

As long as the status box says what it should say in "Step #11" ("we have received your invitation and will accept it soon..."), you should be good to go. Consider double-checking that.

As stated, this wait is the longest step of the process. I don't think it is intrinsically the longest step, although it does involve human intervention (solving Yahoo's ). But at this point you have clearly made a commitment to the transfer process, and for reasons of his own Mark has decided is the best place for him to allow groups to stack up in the transfer queue until he can process them in order.

Hope this helps,
Bruce



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Re: Goodbye Yahoo Groups 20 limit

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 09:26 AM, Sharon Pohlman wrote:
What? when transferring members yourself you can only do 20 per day? I thought you could do all of them or like yahoo 100 per day but 20?wow
Sharon -- This is completely wrong.

You can invite as many as you want, but if you invite more than 20 in one day, they will be reviewed before going out, to ensure you are not a spammer. This was implemented two years ago when someone created a group and invited 600,000 subscribers.

Please read?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/20-Invitations-Limit?and come back with any further questions.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: Goodbye Yahoo Groups 20 limit

 

What? when transferring members yourself you can only do 20 per day? I thought you could do all of them or like yahoo 100 per day but 20?wow
On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 6:40:42 AM CDT, Joe M. <mch@...> wrote:


Yes - several dozen - some with many thousands of members.

There really is not time to get a campaign together to transfer these.

I've run into the 20 per day limit several times already.


Re: Moving just the members

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 09:17 AM, Sharon Pohlman wrote:
So what we need to do then is c/p each email only to the invite? I was thinking it would just be memberlist only with email
Per the Invite page...email addresses can be pasted into the box in the form:

  • email@...
  • ? ? ?or

  • Display Name <email@...>

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There can be only one email address per line, no commas or anything like that.

You can instead click the Browse link and upload a flat text file containing all the email addresses in the same format. Do not upload a CSV or Excel file, it will not work.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Moving just the members

 

Thanks just for clarification that I hadn't don't it wrong . I did do the export CVS one and it showed too much info name emailing address date etc. So I thought I must have done something wrong so I scrapped it . So what we need to do then is c/p each email only to the invite? I was thinking it would just be memberlist only with email
On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 7:57:24 AM CDT, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:


On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 08:53 AM, Sharon Pohlman wrote:
How do I do it to not use the $110 and want to transfer just the members to IO ?
Sharon -- Please read the FAQ at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-YahooGroups, entry #8, and come back with any further questions.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Moving just the members

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 07:53 AM, Sharon Pohlman wrote:
How do I do it to not use the $110 and want to transfer just the members to IO ?
You can't do a transfer without paying.? If you just want to start a new group and invite everyone to join, see /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Inviting-new-members? You can also pay for a Premium group for a month and Direct Add everyone that you have an email address for, see /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-From-Yahoo

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Moving just the members

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 08:53 AM, Sharon Pohlman wrote:
How do I do it to not use the $110 and want to transfer just the members to IO ?
Sharon -- Please read the FAQ at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-YahooGroups, entry #8, and come back with any further questions.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Moving just the members

 

How do I do it to not use the $110 and want to transfer just the members to IO ?

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Re: Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 08:37 AM, Kent B. Lewis wrote:
Can it take a day or two for the "[email protected]" member record to show up in Yahoo? I don't see it yet.
Kent -- Yes. In the past, it has sometimes taken much longer than "a day or two" to move forward from here...but under the circumstances I believe Mark is fully committed to processing Yahoo transfers, and is putting most of his other responsibilities on the back burner.

As long as the status box says what it should say in "Step #11" ("we have received your invitation and will accept it soon..."), you should be good to go. Consider double-checking that.

As stated, this wait is the longest step of the process. I don't think it is intrinsically the longest step, although it does involve human intervention (solving Yahoo's ). But at this point you have clearly made a commitment to the transfer process, and for reasons of his own Mark has decided is the best place for him to allow groups to stack up in the transfer queue until he can process them in order.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Detailed Instructions on How to Conduct a Yahoo Transfer

Kent B. Lewis
 

Hi Bruce

Thanks for the expanded notes. We are up through Step 14. Can it take a day or two for the "[email protected]" member record to show up in Yahoo? I don't see it yet.

Cheers
Kent

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 1:08 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Folks -- I am going to revamp and repost this old message, because the Yahoo transfer page just doesn't have the level of detail that a lot of folks appear to need.

My apologies if you have seen much of this before.

Regards,
Bruce

Here is the process. It is not automated and will take several days. Do not do anything out of order.

  1. Go here:?/
  2. At the bottom of the page, you'll find a link that says "Easy Group Transfer." Click it.
  3. Scroll to the bottom of the subsequent page and click on the big blue button labelled "Yahoo Group Instructions."
  4. You should be at?/yahootransfer. Read the instructions carefully, including all the Notes. Bookmark this page, too. You will come back here several times.
  5. Create your group and configure it according to your needs. Help with group settings can be found here:??/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation [NOTE: Each new group must be reviewed to confirm that it meets the Groups.io Terms of Service. This alone could take up to a day.]?
  6. To use the Easy Group Transfer, you must upgrade the group to the Premium Yearly plan.?You can downgrade to the Basic plan later (i.e.: a year from now), if you want.
    To do so, select Admin>Upgrade from the left-side menu bar and click on the blue "View/Change Plan" button. Select "Premium Yearly" (one-time cost of $110) and make your non-refundable payment.?
    (You have now completed Step 1 of the instructions)

  7. Return to the bookmarked page (/yahootransfer). Click on the big green button at the bottom that says "Set Up New Transfer."
  8. Enter the name of your Yahoo group and the name of your group in their respective boxes. Do NOT enter any domain information (i.e.:?leave off?@ or @), just the group names.
  9. Click the big green "Start Group Transfer Process" button at the bottom of the page.?
    (You have now completed Step 2 of the instructions)

  10. Go to your YAHOO GROUP (not your group) and log in. Send a membership invitation to "[email protected]." If you've never done this before, instructions can be found at??
  11. Return to the bookmarked page?(/yahootransfer) once again. Select the group you are transferring from the Existing Transfers menu at bottom right (pull down the menu and click on the group name). A new page will come up, with?a status box at the top. If all is well, it should say something like: "We have received your invitation and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite." If it doesn't say that, the invitation did not go through. Go back to Step 10 above and try again.?
    (You have now completed Step 3 of the instructions)

  12. BE PATIENT. Accepting the invitation is the longest step in the process, and requires human intervention (solving a CAPTCHA).?
  13. BE EVEN MORE PATIENT.?Do not send additional invitations in an attempt to hurry things up.
  14. You will eventually receive an email stating that the Yahoo group invitation has been accepted.?
    (You have now completed Step 4 of the instructions)

  15. Return to your YAHOO GROUP and log in. Find the "[email protected]" member record and promote it to a Moderator. Instructions for this can be found at?.
  16. Return to the page that you bookmarked in #4 above one more time. Pull down the menu at bottom right and select the group you're ready to transfer. On the resulting page, click the green "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button at bottom right.?
    (You have now completed Step 5 of the instructions)

  17. BE PATIENT AGAIN. The ability to actually do the transfer depends on how well Yahoo's servers are operating. We all know what that means, right?
  18. You may notice some activity in your new group, which probably reflects partial completion of the process. Do not panic. This is what you wanted to happen!
  19. When the transfer is done, you will receive an email from summarizing what it was able to transfer. It will also list whatever things it was?NOT?able to transfer. Until this email is received, you aren't done yet.
  20. Rejoice.
Most of us have "been there" with this process before and it all sounds easy in hindsight. Ironically, the same thing that's causing most people to abandon Y!G (server downtime) is exactly the same thing most likely to get in the way of completing the transfer process.?The best time to initiate a transfer is when Yahoo is performing well.?If you procrastinate until things are crashing and burning, delays, incomplete transfers, and other such frustrations can be expected.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: A few questions about the yahoo change

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 07:40 AM, Alan wrote:
From your Yahoo group; try "Add" (as opposed to "Invite").

"Invite" requires a .com address.

That was my experience and solution.
Alan -- For the benefit of yourself and others, I ask that you please burn any two-year-old instructions that you may have gotten from Mark and try to assist people with the transfer process as it currently exists.

My invitation was confirmed received about 12 hours ago and I'm patiently waiting for next step. I see over 200 new groups were added just yesterday, so the transfer agents will be busy!
If you sent an invitation and that's what worked, then clearly that is the process others should follow.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: Adding a Maps function

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 06:27 AM, Duane wrote:
You _can_ set up a database with an address field that will have a Map link in it.? Rather crude, but seems to work in testing.? It has broken a few times when Google changes things, but is working at the moment.
Note also that database maps view is only available to Premium and Enterprise groups.

See?/static/pricing

Regards,
Bruce


Re: Goodbye Yahoo Groups

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 06:40 AM, Joe M. wrote:
I've run into the 20 per day limit several times already.
If you invite/add everyone at once, you'll only run into the limit once per group.

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Re: Help with transfer of an "orphaned" Yahoo group #pgoffline

Bill Carns
 

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Hope this isn¡¯t just more ¡°traffic¡±, but is anyone taking the time to just thank you guys BIG TIME for what you are doing?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 1:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Help with transfer of an "orphaned" Yahoo group

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On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 02:01 AM, Adam Farson wrote:

Repeated e-mails to the group owner have gone unanswered. Not even the impending ¡°doomsday¡± of Yahoo Groups has caused him to respond to my request for this privilege. Thus, I am stuck. Is there any way of getting around this obstacle?

Adam -- There is nothing groups.io can do to help you. Keep trying to contact the group Owner, or plead your case to Yahoo Groups support.?

If you cannot get anyone's attention, your only option in this case is to abandon the Easy Group Transfer process and proceed to migrate the subscribers and group content manually. There have been many posts on this over the past few days, so read through the message archive for tips and advice on how to do a transfer "on the cheap."

As for getting your money back, you will have to contact [email protected]?on that one.

Sorry,
Bruce