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David Haun
 

Last year when the first rumors of Yahoo Group's demise started to surface, Michoacan Net moved to groups.io and became? [email protected] ? There were no transition issues and we have had no problems with our messages or from our members.? In fact, I'm not sure everyone knew they were in a new group since our group went from Michoacan_Net (yahoo) to MichoacanNet (.io)?
Since we switched, there have been no issues with the new site and I'm very pleased with everything involved with groups.io.?
This managers forum is a great help since they actually answer emails.?? BUT, since I have never had problems,? I've never needed help.?
Feliz viaje, David

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Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups

 

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Hi Bruce can I tail end this topic. You mention Direct add members under a $10 mothly payment?? I cannot see any details of that facility or how to use it. Can you advise.
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Alan Melia
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Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Transferring Small Yahoo Groups

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 01:43 PM, Laurence Taylor wrote:
How can you upgrade for a month? Is there a pro-rata payment, or do we
have to pay for a year regardless?
If you go to Admin>Upgrade and click the "View/Change Plan" button, there are options for Premium Yearly or Premium Monthly.

You might find a month of Premium handy if you want to Direct Add subscribers to your group without going through the invitation process. It is also a lot cheaper ($10 vs $110).

However, if you want groups.io to attempt to move your message archive, files and photos and so on (in addition to your subscribers), you have to pay the $110. This payment also allows you to re-try the transfer later if some content doesn't make it over, due to ongoing Yahoo server issues.

The money has to be paid up-front and there are no refunds.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups

 

Definitely disappointing. I'll stop recommending groups.io to people, then, and definitely look for alternatives for my groups in the future.?


Re: question about 10 GB limit

 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:09 PM, <mraroid@...> wrote:
Do emails count against this 10 GB limit??Or is it just files and photos?
The items that count against your storage limit are listed near the bottom of the Pricing page (/static/pricing).

Regards,
Bruce


Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups

 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 02:52 PM, <runswiththestorm@...> wrote:
Is there no option for a yearly commitment at monthly payments?
Choosing recurring monthly payments is an option for normal Premium access, but is not an option if you expect the transfer agent to move your content for you.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: New Group Questions: Migration Questions #yahoo

 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 02:52 PM, Megan Roe wrote:
---- Can you start the group without having the Yahoo content pulled over? (we still need to put our request into you)
You actually must create the group before you can transfer into it, so you pretty much have to.

As for using the new group ahead of the transfer, that's up to you. I tried to keep most of the traffic back in Yahoo prior to moving my groups, but that was before they started crashing and burning; and no one has reported any serious downside to doing otherwise.?

---- Will there be an interruption with the group usage while the content is being migrated over?
Not that I have noticed. You may get some interleaving of message numbers, but that's about it.

When the transfer happens, you will get a summary report. It will contain a list of things that aren't transferred. One of the things that don't get transferred are email addresses that have already joined the destination group. I believe content "ownership" still gets assigned correctly, though.

---- Is the timing of our GROUP starting dependent on the migration?
My guess is no, but I'm frankly not entirely sure what you mean here.

I do suggest you put the Yahoo group on moderation as soon as you notice that the transfer has actually started. This allows you to intervene and let people know to start posting at the other location, so that you don't leave too many messages or other things orphaned back in the Yahoo group.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


question about 10 GB limit

 

Hi...

I bought the service for $110 a year.? It says I have a 10 GB limit.?

Do emails count against this 10 GB limit?? Or is it just files and photos?

Thank you,

jack


Re: Yahoo member migration if "No Email" status

 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 02:51 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:
where is this setting?
Susan -- In groups.io, it is in the Message Policies block of Settings. I have "no email" disabled for all my groups.

Many members are on nomail so when the messages are no longer accessible on the home page, well I guess they will find out the hard way so I just answered my question.?
Yeah, pretty much.

You can try to notify them by collecting all the "no email" people and contacting them directly (i.e.: outside of Y!G). In practice, I think you'll find that most of those accounts are deadwood and emails will begin to bounce as soon as you start sending them anything.

More information at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups#Y21group-after-the-transfer

Regards,
Bruce


Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups

 

Is there no option for a yearly commitment at monthly payments? That is a /lot/ of money and a lot of us trying to keep our groups alive can't come up with it in a lump sum.?


New Group Questions: Migration Questions #yahoo

 

We are going to start using your premium service - moving from yahoo ASAP. Quick question (LOVE YOUR PRODUCT!):

---- Can you start the group without having the Yahoo content pulled over? (we still need to put our request into you)
---- Will there be an interruption with the group usage while the content is being migrated over?
---- Is the timing of our GROUP starting dependent on the migration?

Trying to ask it 10 different ways so that I am clear on how to communicate with our community :)


Re: how do I change the default photo on my new I/O group (importing from yahoo)

 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 02:25 PM, <mraroid@...> wrote:
How do I change the default photo on the main mast head for my group?? I have? B&W photo of buffalo on it now.
Jack -- See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19247

Regards,
Bruce


how do I change the default photo on my new I/O group (importing from yahoo)

 

Hello.? I have created my group here.? I am waiting on I/O to import from my yahoo group.

How do I change the default photo on the main mast head for my group?? I have? B&W photo of buffalo on it now.

Thank you

jack


Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups

 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 01:43 PM, Laurence Taylor wrote:
How can you upgrade for a month? Is there a pro-rata payment, or do we
have to pay for a year regardless?
If you go to Admin>Upgrade and click the "View/Change Plan" button, there are options for Premium Yearly or Premium Monthly.

You might find a month of Premium handy if you want to Direct Add subscribers to your group without going through the invitation process. It is also a lot cheaper ($10 vs $110).

However, if you want groups.io to attempt to move your message archive, files and photos and so on (in addition to your subscribers), you have to pay the $110. This payment also allows you to re-try the transfer later if some content doesn't make it over, due to ongoing Yahoo server issues.

The money has to be paid up-front and there are no refunds.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Owner/Moderator with 2 Email addresses

 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 01:54 PM, Margery Flax wrote:
Short of subscribing myself with my work email and then going no mail with my personal one, is there any way to have two emails associated with one account where you can choose which one to use for any one list?
No. Nor can you be logged in under more than one email address using the same device/browser.

However, you can subscribe both addresses to the same group and set one of them to No Email. That might be your best option.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Sub groups

 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 01:43 PM, <mpnl@...> wrote:
Looking for info on sub groups.
Your best source for this and other Frequently Asked Questions is the GMF wiki at:??/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home

Please review?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup?and?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Subgroups?and come back with any follow-up questions.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: Goodbye Yahoo Groups

 

Perhaps look at using sub-groups, I keep all my groups under my main one and it looks like you can do a Yahoo Groups transfer in to a subgroup.
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I pay monthly for the main group and it seems to translate through to my subs (I could be wrong).
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K¨¦vin Costelloe
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Owner/Moderator with 2 Email addresses

 

My account with groups.io is with this email address, which is my personal address.? I am now creating all the groups we need to switch to groups.io - there are 23 of them - they need to be with my work email address.? Short of subscribing myself with my work email and then going no mail with my personal one, is there any way to have two emails associated with one account where you can choose which one to use for any one list?

Thanks,
Margery Flax


Uploading Stuff to GIO (was: How to Effect a Transfer)

 
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On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 01:26 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:
Does this mean I must upload each picture to the new groups.io group website one picture at a time or is there a way to upload whole folders?
Larry -- You can upload a folder-full of photos at a time as follows:

  1. Browse to /g/groupname/photos
  2. Click the "New Album" button
  3. Provide a title and description and click the Create button
  4. Click the "Add Photos" button
  5. In the resulting dialog box, click "Browse..."
  6. Using Ctrl-Click, Shift-Click or Ctrl-A for the entire folder, select all the images you want to appear in this folder.
  7. The dialog box will be populated with thumbnail images.
  8. Click the Add button.
  9. Repeat for each photo album you need to transfer.
And, do you mean it is not possible to upload files? PG Offline can download files from Yahoo Groups. Once downloaded, how can those files be uploaded to the new groups.io group? One file at a time or in folders?
You can upload an entire directory structure of files to groups.io (including the recursive uploading of subfolders) using the "Upload Directory" function. It is, however, not very intuitive. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/34328513#18960?for details.

Has anyone successfully used PG Offline for this function?
I cannot speak to that.

To clarify, I have only small groups with picture and file storage well under the 1 GB free limit. With only about 100 members in each group, I will just send invitations to join the new groups.io group using the membership list I exported from the Yahoo Group.
Make sure what you upload is a flat text file, with one email address per line. No intervening commas, no CSV or Excel files.

Alternatively, you can just cut-and-paste them into the invitation box.

Send the invitations?all at once.

You will get a message back saying you've reached the limit of invitations per day. Do not get upset about this. Just wait awhile, and all the invitations you sent will go out.

These are important issues for owners with only small groups. Please try to answer fully as I expect there is wide interest.
Fair enough. In turn, please understand that the heavy influx of new groups is rapidly becoming stressful for everyone. We are not responsible for what Yahoo Groups has done, and are doing our best to accommodate.

Regards,
Bruce


Sub groups

 

Looking for info on sub groups.
Thanks?


Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups

 

Duane <txpigeon@...>o wrote:

After that, you may downgrade.
To clarify, that's after one year of premium service. You can
actually change it any time, but it won't take effect until your
current term expires. Many folks did (and still do) upgrade to
premium for a month now and then for specific tasks.
How can you upgrade for a month? Is there a pro-rata payment, or do we
have to pay for a year regardless?

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