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Re: Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

 

Dan,

I contacted Wilson, the owner of the other group transfer service, to
find out more. If I find out anything interesting, I'll post it here.

Donald

On Fri, 11 May 2018 19:51:09 -0700, "Dan Hartford"
<danhartfordphoto@...> wrote:

Donald,

Thank you for your detailed reply. I'll have to look through it in detail.
We already have our WP site so are already paying for hosting (BlueHost).
We're just looking for better integration than we had with Yahoo. We
already have one step in that direction with the ability to Direct Add new
members to IO when they join the club. It's manual but simple and we don't
have to get into that Invite, lost invitation, invite again, accept but
doesn't' put in real name, etc. cycle. We also are not putting a link to
the Groups.IO message page on our site which may satisfy the Board that it's
integrated.

But you also provided some things to think about - at least in terms of 2nd
part.

Thanks -- Dan

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Re: Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

 

Dan,

We also are not putting a link to the Groups.IO message page on our
site which may satisfy the Board that it's integrated.
"now"?

In any case, I'm by no means a WP expert, but you can also have linkage from the group's home page back to the WP blog using the embedding tools WP provides. For example:


Presumably the same thing would work on a group Wiki page, and possibly in a message or even the Guidelines.

Shal


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Re: Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

Dan Hartford
 

Donald,

Thank you for your detailed reply. I'll have to look through it in detail.
We already have our WP site so are already paying for hosting (BlueHost).
We're just looking for better integration than we had with Yahoo. We
already have one step in that direction with the ability to Direct Add new
members to IO when they join the club. It's manual but simple and we don't
have to get into that Invite, lost invitation, invite again, accept but
doesn't' put in real name, etc. cycle. We also are not putting a link to
the Groups.IO message page on our site which may satisfy the Board that it's
integrated.

But you also provided some things to think about - at least in terms of 2nd
part.

Thanks -- Dan

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Subject: Re: [GMF] Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

Dan . . .

On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:15:00 -0700, "PACC Digital Chair"
<digitalchair2@...> wrote:

The 2nd, and lower priority, is to have the groups tool embedded in WP (I
guess as a plug in - I'm not a WP person).

Can someone let me know what we can do in this area?

I'm not a big WP person, either, but I have several WP handbooks and
once ran a WP web site. If you're thinking of migrating a Yahoo Group
to groups.io then eventually to a hosted site, consider this before
having to do the migration twice:


"Perhaps you're considering moving to phpBB or Wordpress or maybe you
just want a better way to search Yahoo groups.We offer a bespoke
migration service to a new forum or merge with an existing forum."

I am friends with the person who develops PG Offline and also the
above service but have not tried what he offers because I already
moved my groups to IO and I don't want to pay a monthly fee for a
hosting service, but you are thinking of using web hosting anyway, so
this might be the best approach. You can find an email link on his web
site and inquire about it. I would ask him if he has a sample WP or
phpBB site you can browse through to see what it looks like and how it
works, maybe get a referral to a group you can join to see how the
user experience is. While you're at it, you can ask for a referral to
both types of sites, one for WP and one for phpBB. That way you can
decide on which might be a better solution for you. Don't forget to
ask about how pictures, files, folders, etc., are handled.

There are plugins for WP that will provide a forum. This is just a
sample of some easy ones (I have not tried any of these):




I would suggest, though, that you stick with dedicated forum software
that's full-featured like phpBB or vBulletin. Or one of the mailing
list software packages.

Here are two aquarium fish related phpBB and vBulletin forums:


ad=h
uses phpBB software (free)


uses vBulletin software (not free)

I actually set up a complete forum for an aquatic plant club for the
SW Ohio area using phpBB. It worked very well. The club fell apart
over time and now the web site and forum site is no longer hosted
anywhere.

Putting the forum together was not a cake walk by any means, but I
never did one before and put it together in a week or two. It took a
lot of my evening time, so expect to spend some time with it.

If you use dedicated bulletin board software, you will no doubt have
many more options to choose from to manage your board. I believe there
are plugins for these two packages, too. Most web hosting sites have
phpBB in their software control panel so it's easy to install.

My other suggestion was to install Majordomo or Listserv mailing list
software (or similar) if all you need is a messaging system that
broadcasts all posts to all members.

If you need an area for pictures, files, or other things, that's
beyond the scope of what I've done, but you should be able to find
software to install on your hosted site that can handle those. You
might even be able to find software that will handle everything
without using separate packages to take care of those features.

The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who
speak it. --Selwyn Duke


Re: Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

 

Dan . . .

On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:15:00 -0700, "PACC Digital Chair"
<digitalchair2@...> wrote:

The 2nd, and lower priority, is to have the groups tool embedded in WP (I guess as a plug in - I'm not a WP person).

Can someone let me know what we can do in this area?

I'm not a big WP person, either, but I have several WP handbooks and
once ran a WP web site. If you're thinking of migrating a Yahoo Group
to groups.io then eventually to a hosted site, consider this before
having to do the migration twice:


"Perhaps you're considering moving to phpBB or Wordpress or maybe you
just want a better way to search Yahoo groups.We offer a bespoke
migration service to a new forum or merge with an existing forum."

I am friends with the person who develops PG Offline and also the
above service but have not tried what he offers because I already
moved my groups to IO and I don't want to pay a monthly fee for a
hosting service, but you are thinking of using web hosting anyway, so
this might be the best approach. You can find an email link on his web
site and inquire about it. I would ask him if he has a sample WP or
phpBB site you can browse through to see what it looks like and how it
works, maybe get a referral to a group you can join to see how the
user experience is. While you're at it, you can ask for a referral to
both types of sites, one for WP and one for phpBB. That way you can
decide on which might be a better solution for you. Don't forget to
ask about how pictures, files, folders, etc., are handled.

There are plugins for WP that will provide a forum. This is just a
sample of some easy ones (I have not tried any of these):




I would suggest, though, that you stick with dedicated forum software
that's full-featured like phpBB or vBulletin. Or one of the mailing
list software packages.

Here are two aquarium fish related phpBB and vBulletin forums:


uses phpBB software (free)


uses vBulletin software (not free)

I actually set up a complete forum for an aquatic plant club for the
SW Ohio area using phpBB. It worked very well. The club fell apart
over time and now the web site and forum site is no longer hosted
anywhere.

Putting the forum together was not a cake walk by any means, but I
never did one before and put it together in a week or two. It took a
lot of my evening time, so expect to spend some time with it.

If you use dedicated bulletin board software, you will no doubt have
many more options to choose from to manage your board. I believe there
are plugins for these two packages, too. Most web hosting sites have
phpBB in their software control panel so it's easy to install.

My other suggestion was to install Majordomo or Listserv mailing list
software (or similar) if all you need is a messaging system that
broadcasts all posts to all members.

If you need an area for pictures, files, or other things, that's
beyond the scope of what I've done, but you should be able to find
software to install on your hosted site that can handle those. You
might even be able to find software that will handle everything
without using separate packages to take care of those features.

The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who
speak it. --Selwyn Duke


Chat Anyone?

 

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Has anyone been using Chat?

I remember how it worked back in the old days of Yahoo Chat, but was wondering how it compared. I¡¯m tempted to activate it in our group, and would like to know if it has been beneficial.

?

Don


Automated email to members who put in a join request, suddenly not working

 

Ok, this is frustrating. When a member joins, he's automatically sent a questionnaire.? In the past few days, that feature has stopped working, we've never had an issue before.? Any reason for the change in behavior?

Thanks...


Word Press (WP) Integrations? #integration

PACC Digital Chair
 

Hi,

Just getting going with IO with 2 live suibgroups so far and I've been meaning to ask about integrations.? These sub groups are in relation to a club who's main web site and membership list are built on the Word Press platform.? One of the goals (longer term goal than avoiding Yahoo problems) is to have a discussion group like IO more tightly integrated with our WP system.?

The first goal is for the Groups to establish membership (at the group and sub-group level) based on various attributes of the Word Press Users table.? So, for example, our "Main" group as well as the members group in IO would be all the people who are "Active" in the WP Users Table.? The members of the IO "Board" subbgroup would be all the? people in WP who have a? role of? "Administrator", etc.? ?In other words as we make changes to users in WP (for example we deactivate them via a chron job when their membership expires unless they've paid dues for the following period) they would be added or removed from our IO group and appropriate Sub groups.? I'm not clear if this sort of thing is the intention of your Integrations feature or not, and if so what you have for Word Press?

The 2nd, and lower priority, is to have the groups tool embedded in WP (I guess as a plug in - I'm not a WP person).

Can someone let me know what we can do in this area?

thanks -- Dan


Re: Formatting Wiki Pages #howtoguide #wiki

 

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 03:52 am, Tony Moody wrote:
You could maybe get a straight version from Bootstrap v3.3.6 (http://getbootstrap.com)
You'd think so, but no luck. So I took the existing file and cleaned it up with the Brackets editor, then ran it thru my hex editor to replace all the Unix line terminations with CRLF.

It now resides in the GMF files area alongside the original.

Regards,
Bruce


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Re: Poll results

 

If you use MS Word, you can create a table from the text of the results pretty easily.
Drag your cursor over the results (starting with "1.") to select the text of the results.
In MS Word, open a new document and "Paste - Keep Text Only" to paste in only the text.
Should have something like this:
1. Yes, I would attend.
100%
17 votes
2. No, I would not attend
0%
0 votes
Now, select that text and do Insert -> Table -> Convert Text to Table.? Select "Separate text at Paragraphs" and set Number of Columns to 3 and click Okay.
Boom,
Now you have a table of the results:

1. Yes, I would attend.

100%

17 votes

2. No, I would not attend

0%

0 votes




Re: Poll results

 

You still have to do that manually. The easiest way I've found is to get a screenshot of the results, crop it accordingly, then post it to the thread (if you allow attachments.) Another way is to copy down the results and enter them as part of a new message.

Duane
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Poll results

 

When I close a poll, how can I get the results to be sent to the whole group?

thanks,
Ann


Re: Transfer queue wait time

Mike Conder
 

Thanks, I was just wondering about the time to get the transfer agent active on our Yahoo group.? Only been a week, but we are SO ready ...

Mike Conder


Re: My group email is not recognised

Jan Winspear
 

Thank you Duane - it has accepted that!!!

Best wishes
Jan

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Sent: 11 May 2018 14:09
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Subject: Re: [GMF] My group email is not recognised

Try just entering tywyn-dolgellaufreecycle in the box. Several folks have reported that this works.

Duane
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Re: Copies of my own emails to the list

Glenn Glazer
 

On 5/10/2018 16:30, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 03:45 pm, Glenn Glazer wrote:
I am the owner, but I would like one copy of each email sent to the group except messages I send.? Is there a configuration option for this or do I get to write an inbound mail filter in Thunderbird?
?
The system help is your friend.?/static/help#dupemail

Bruce
_._,_._,

Many thanks.? I was looking in the group preferences rather than the account preferences.

Best,

Glenn

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Re: Direct add not complete after 4 days

 

My Direct Adds appear as quickly as I can change screens so no, it is not normal to take so long. As Owner, I also get a notification that we have a new member in the group. I believe that's the only notice I receive other than, as Bruce said, just going to the Members page and seeing them there. I did set up a "Direct Add" Member Notice so that the new member gets a welcome note - if you also have that set, you might check with the members and see if they received the notice.

Hope you can sort it out.

Barb


Re: My group email is not recognised

 

Try just entering tywyn-dolgellaufreecycle in the box. Several folks have reported that this works.

Duane
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My group email is not recognised

Jan Winspear
 

I was just attempting to transfer my reecycle group to groups io but
was told that the group is not a Yahoo group - the address is a .co.uk
one and has been since 2005 -
tywyn-dolgellaufreecycle@...

Any suggestions please


Down for Maintenance Notice

 

Hi all,

used to YG breakdowns, changes of features and functionality in 2014 without any announcements, not to speak of a complete lack of support or assistance, I am extremely grateful for the care and accuracy Mark provides for his groups. Sure feedback of existing groups help him to enhance his service, so this is a two-way-ticket. Anyway, considering all this I really don?t think a few hours of timeout without becoming aware make so much difference, especially since all the mails are stored and nothing gets lost.

Could it be we are getting a little too fastidious?

Victoria


Re: Down for Maintenance Notice

 

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:14 am, Chris Jones wrote:


from a poll on "my" Group it is only a minority of users who use the web
interface "regularly"
In that case, they probably wouldn't even know the site is down. Emails received are queued, then posted when the system is back online. Other than possibly having the exact same time stamp (and I'm not sure about that), there'd be no indication of any outage.

Duane
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