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Re: Photo album deletion

 

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 01:20 am, Shal Farley wrote:
I think the attempt to upload a file that puts your group over quota would likely fail.
I thought the entire point of that setting was to allow for unattended purging of the attachments queue.

Perhaps an example will help...

-- You are on the free program, meaning you have 1 GB of storage.
-- You have 500 MB of files and photos in photo albums that you want to keep.
-- You have 300 MB of attachments that you'd like to get rid of.

You temporarily upload a file that's 490 MB in size, so essentially all your allotted storage is taken up by files and photo albums. The system sees that your attachment queue puts you over the limit, and deletes the oldest 290 MB of them, at which point you delete the file you uploaded.

Voila'! You have purged the attachments without having to resort to deleting them one by one.

I hope I'm making sense.

Bruce


how to copy fotos from Yahoo Group to my server

 

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Bruce,

o.k. didn?t know it was that easy. Thanks.

Victoria

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Re: messages between individuals

J_Catlady
 

Sure, explore all you want. Not gonna happen. I¡¯ll take bets on it.:p

On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

J,

The OP may have requested and meant this, but Shal, do you know of any
other situation where "DM" is not synonymous with "PM" ...
I don't know, but then my exposure to social media sites and their features is very limited.

I think the OP's request is unusual in the sense that it rarely
exists, ...
If you limit your scope to things that are called DMs or PMs it may seem rare, but side conversations that are not mailed to everyone, yet remain "on the record" may be more common generally than we imagine.

At one extreme, it could be implemented as a topic which the OP is able to mute for all but the targeted recipient(s). Though I don't know if that would match Deb's intended use or not.

I think no user would expect that a record of their DM's, or PMs, or
whatever they'd end up being called (regardless of whether the word
"private" is explicitly used) would be available to moderators.
That's true - user expectations would have to be carefully managed. Whatever the feature were eventually called, and how it would be described in the web pages that implement it would have to make the "on the record" nature of these member-to-messages plainly obvious.

And I think it should not be available.
That's fine. Perhaps you could even disable the feature in your groups.

Still, I don't mind exploring the idea here just to see how it fleshes out.

Shal


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Re: messages between individuals

 

J,

The OP may have requested and meant this, but Shal, do you know of any
other situation where "DM" is not synonymous with "PM" ...
I don't know, but then my exposure to social media sites and their features is very limited.

I think the OP's request is unusual in the sense that it rarely
exists, ...
If you limit your scope to things that are called DMs or PMs it may seem rare, but side conversations that are not mailed to everyone, yet remain "on the record" may be more common generally than we imagine.

At one extreme, it could be implemented as a topic which the OP is able to mute for all but the targeted recipient(s). Though I don't know if that would match Deb's intended use or not.

I think no user would expect that a record of their DM's, or PMs, or
whatever they'd end up being called (regardless of whether the word
"private" is explicitly used) would be available to moderators.
That's true - user expectations would have to be carefully managed. Whatever the feature were eventually called, and how it would be described in the web pages that implement it would have to make the "on the record" nature of these member-to-messages plainly obvious.

And I think it should not be available.
That's fine. Perhaps you could even disable the feature in your groups.

Still, I don't mind exploring the idea here just to see how it fleshes out.

Shal


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Re: Migration questions

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yes, I have 2 groups which are totally private and membership is restricted.
and Bruce is correct that no one can use the same group name.

Cherrill?



On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 02:16 am, Michael Buckley wrote:

Can a group be private and unseen by the community generally, thus only available by invitation.

Yes. Got to Admin->Settings->Privacy and select "not listed in directory, private archives. Under Spam Control select "Restricted Membership." Be sure to save your changes.
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If so what happens if a new "owner" tries to use the same group name?


I believe they will get an error message stating that name is unavailable or previously used. Someone who has actually experienced it could tell you for sure...but they way sets up URLs and list addresses such duplicate names would cause all kinds of collisions.

Bruce


Re: Moving photos from one album to another

 

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 01:04 pm, Winnie wrote:
That was an option I had and often used in Yahoo groups but couldn't find here.
Winnie -- Are you sure? I've never been able to do anything with photos on Y!G except download them, view them, and reorder them within a folder. As best I can tell, moving photos between folders was not possible. Can you show me where the menu items are to do that?

We need to also consider the implications of moving one member's pictures into a folder that he doesn't control. Folder and photo ownership need to be maintained even if it makes some things inconvenient.

Bruce


Re: Calender

 

Bill,

On the other hand, the "Send Notice to Group when Event Happens"
button will send a notice (if I understand correctly) at the time and
day that the event occurs.
It is actually posted to the group as a message. So in that sense the word "Notice" on that checkbox is misused, it should say "post a message" or something more like that.

In our case, it's much to late to notify or even remind anyone who
cares to participate. So I generally don't see much use for this one
unless someone is just down the hall and needs to be awakened to join
a meeting that's just begun.
In my classmate groups we use them for birthdays and anniversaries, which we set as all-day events. No one is expected to mail cards or gifts so the advance notice of a reminder is not needed, but the on-list well-wishes sometimes spark more substantive conversations.

In my family group, where physical tokens might be exchanged, I use a one-week advance reminder plus the message when event happens.

Shal


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Re: messages between individuals

J_Catlady
 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:32 am, Shal Farley wrote:
Deb, the OP, asked for an on-site means to _direct_ message from member to member - privacy was not mentioned, and in her follow up she said that idea behind the request was to have a record of the side conversation.
The OP may have requested and meant this, but Shal, do you know of any other situation where "DM" is not synonymous with "PM" - or, to put it in the terms above, where moderators have and can access record of these conversations? I don't know of any. Facebook, Twitter, DM or PM, these messages are private.

I think the OP's request is unusual in the sense that it rarely exists, AFAIK, and as far as other users know, and I'd be surprised if Mark would even consider implementing it, if it includes the means for moderators to see these messages. I think no user would expect that a record of their DM's, or PMs, or whatever they'd end up being called (regardless of whether the word "private" is explicitly used) would be available to moderators. And I think it should not be available.
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Re: how to copy fotos from Yahoo Group to my server

 

As you hover over each picture with your mouse a download link will pop up.

Bruce


Re: Migration questions

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 02:16 am, Michael Buckley wrote:

Can a group be private and unseen by the community generally, thus only available by invitation.

Yes. Got to Admin->Settings->Privacy and select "not listed in directory, private archives. Under Spam Control select "Restricted Membership." Be sure to save your changes.

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If so what happens if a new "owner" tries to use the same group name?


I believe they will get an error message stating that name is unavailable or previously used. Someone who has actually experienced it could tell you for sure...but they way groups.io sets up URLs and list addresses such duplicate names would cause all kinds of collisions.

Bruce


Re: messages between individuals

 

Deb,

The thought behind my request was that it would be good for us to have
a record of the side conversations in IO.
What kind of record are you imagining?

One thing would be to have an entry in the group's activity log that gives the basic metadata of the message: who and when, and maybe the Subject line. Notably, the existing Private reply mechanism does not do even that: no activity log entry is created.

A much more comprehensive thing would be to have a message list somewhere that includes the content of the messages.

Shal


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Re: messages between individuals

 

Duane, markus,

In that case, a chat could work. If you have a record, I don't see
how it could be considered a Private Message though.
That pesky word "private" again.

Note that Deb, the OP, asked for an on-site means to _direct_ message from member to member - privacy was not mentioned, and in her follow up she said that idea behind the request was to have a record of the side conversation. So complete privacy is explicitly not desired in her use case.

In fact, given her goal none of the existing mechanisms are suitable - except maybe for chat. Direct emails are recorded nowhere except by the individuals involved, and the Private reply feature in Groups.io does not create a record of what was said.

Shal


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Re: Integration with Google Calendar #calendar

 

OK the Sync Just Happened.

So it does work. . One Happy Camper :)


Re: Integration with Google Calendar #calendar

 

Mine has not updated yet and it has been 24 hours.?
Only the initial content was synchronized any changes afterward has yet to replicate.
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I pinged the google support forums to see what they have to say. I will post an update once they reply.

If anyone has other ideas please let me know
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Thanks


Re: messages between individuals

J_Catlady
 

Yes, I agree. There shouldn¡¯t be records.

On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:45 AM, markus baur <baur@...> wrote:

isnt it the point for going direct email to avoid this records?

the whole point of private messages would be lost they they apprear in the (public) record ..

servus

markus

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Re: Moving photos from one album to another

Carl J¨®n Denbow
 

Let me add one more vote to having this high on the Todo List.? Moving photos from one album to another by the administrator would be very helpful!?


how to copy fotos from Yahoo Group to my server

 

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I want to save a few of the fotos from the Yahoo-Group. Is there a way to copy them individually and upload them on my own server?

Victoria

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Re: messages between individuals

 

isnt it the point for going direct email to avoid this records?

the whole point of private messages would be lost they they apprear in the (public) record ..

servus

markus

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:17 AM, Debra Claffey <debra@... <mailto:debra@...>> wrote:
Thank you for the replies. Yes, we have been emailing directly. The
thought behind my request was that it would be good for us to have a
record of the side conversations in IO.
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Re: Calender

 

I think it's important to note the difference between "Reminders" and "Notifications".? ?In general, I find the "Add Reminder" button to be by far the most flexible method, as Shal suggested.?
Note that the "Send Invite to Group" if checked will send an iCal Invitation immediately upon posting your event.? While this can be helpful, it's also possible that you will receive a bunch of invitation acceptance notices, since it's not simply a notification, it's an Invite.? (I'm actually not sure where any such acceptance notices would go.)
On the other hand, the "Send Notice to Group when Event Happens" button will send a notice (if I understand correctly) at the time and day that the event occurs.? In our case, it's much to late to notify or even remind anyone who cares to participate.? So I generally don't see much use for this one unless someone is just down the hall and needs to be awakened to join a meeting that's just begun.
So we just do a little arithmetic and use the "Reminders" feature to send a calendar reminder at an appropriate lead time before the event, as Shal has suggested.

I do wish that there was a way to pre-set the calendar settings to a default for a group, such as automatically displaying the Week rather than the Month; having a default Reminder lead time, etc.? That was one of the good features of Yahoo - far outweighed by their constant meddling and outages!

Regards, Bill (A relatively new user/owner - just migrated our 165 member group from Yahoo last month, so still learning)


Re: messages between individuals

 

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 07:58 am, Debra Claffey wrote:
have a record of the side conversations

?In that case, a chat could work.? If you have a record, I don't see how it could be considered a Private Message though.

Duane
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