Hi, I'm not exactly how to phrase this question, so I hope I can make it clear.
I want to move a yahoo group (doesn't everybody, now?)? We actually looked at moving a while ago, but could not find a feature we depend on, namely, the ability to vet an application for entry.? ?We ask people who would like to join to share a sentence or two about what qualifies them to join us.? We are a support group where sensitive things are shared and don't really want looky-loos or researchers, and while we can't be sure they are not lying, our experience is that asking people to state their qualifications tends to keep out a lot of the riff-raff.
On Yahoo, that statement appears next to the applicant's name on a page available to all moderators, so it's a simple matter of checking the approve button if the statement passes muster, or sending a followup email if the person failed to provide any info or if they say something like "I'm a student of this thing"
I manage a neighborhood list here on Groups.io, and have seen that all I get is a notification email that somebody wants in, there doesn't seem to be a place for them to put anything but their email.? I wind up blindly approving new folks there, as we are hardly a magnet for anybody not in the neighborhood.
Is there a way we can do this sort of vetting on Groups.io?
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YahooGroups to groups.io > should have done it sooner!
#transfer
Hi everyone, For the most part our migration from Yahoo Groups to groups.io has been seamless.? We had about 1,000 members on YG. I've made some errors ... :p ... but it's a breath of fresh air to have software that rocks:??
- Hyperlinked?Table of Contents - you bet!
- HTML? - check
- Inline images? - damn right!
- Attachments? - mais oui (French for:??but of course!)
I was thinking, wouldn't it be cool to have per Group, a funding thermometer to collect donations.? In the end, I will probably end up with 700 members.? If our Group's goal was a measly 10 USD, we could raise 120 USD a year.? 120 USD is more than zero (Basic)! Thx! -pablo
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Re: Yahoo member migration if "No Email" status
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 04:02 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:
Yes and that way they are still not getting emails but receive something if I send a message out, correct?
If you send it as a Special Notice, yes, that's correct. Regards, Bruce
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Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups
The files and photos definitely aren't gone. I've been downloading all afternoon. That said, the files are much easier to access than the photos. I get errors frequently when trying to download photos. I expect Yahoo is a bit overwhelmed at the demand right now, since so many of us are doing the same thing.?
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lock or moderate topic questions
I just had to lock a topic on my forum, but I am puzzled by the fact that I can check BOTH lock and moderate on the same topic. What is the result if I do check both?
Also, regarding how to handle this type of thing in the future. If I change the topic to reply to sender, will replies to the original email go to the group or to the sender?
Thanks,
Su
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Re: Yahoo Files and Photos
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does anyone know if the files and photos are gone on the Yahoo side.?
I don't think they are actually gone from Yahoo's servers, yet, simply inaccessible. That's based on prior similar incidents where Y!GMF members reported their photos missing, but they later returned. This has happened several times over the last few years for some groups.
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I have signed up for a migration just wandered if I just spent $110 for nothing.
If they don't come through in your first transfer attempt, but you see them return to your Yahoo Group, you can try another transfer, selecting only the Photos (or Files). The fly in the ointment is the limited time span before they are actually removed - there's no way to guess whether Yahoo will fix them first.
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Shal
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Re: Yahoo member migration if "No Email" status
Yes and that way they are still not getting emails but receive something if I send a message out, correct?
Susan
On Thursday, October 17, 2019, 12:40:19 PM PDT, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:30 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:
I also disabled nomail on my new list but see the nomails were switched to special.
If people prefer to read their messages online, I believe it it best to respect that; forcing them to receive unwanted emails will only chase them away. However, it's nice to be able to contact everyone if unusual circumstances (like this one) arise. The "Special Notices" option provides that functionality, and is the default if a "no email" person is transferred into a groups.io group that does not permit the "no email" message delivery option. Regards, Bruce
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Browser crash when uploading a file
I have reported this to support and am waiting a reply.
But thought maybe someone here might have some additional insight.
When we upload a binary file to our forum's Files section, Chrome crashes with the "Aw, snap" message and some of the file's header text shown in a thumbnail.
Firefox just locks up completely on the "Upload File" screen when we upload it.
This is a binary file (in the astronomy FITS format).? The site is apparently noticing the file's text header and trying to show a thumbnail.?
We are not using any File storage, so our quota isn't exceeded.? And, the file is just 16 MB, which from what I've read shouldn't be a problem.
Here's a sample file that shows the problem:?.?
Is there a way to turn off File and Photo previews?
Any other suggestions?
Admins should feel free to delete this post if it's too user-specific.
TIA
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Re: Uploading Stuff to GIO (was: How to Effect a Transfer)
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:50 PM, Deborah Cohen wrote:
Are these instructions for uploading folders of photos from your computer, rather than YahooGroup?
Correct...you have to get it all downloaded first.? Bruce
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Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups
It also seems like Yahoo has deleted the photos and files on the backend, so I am not sure there will be much to migrate.? I have signed up and will let you know what does get migrated.
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Re: Uploading Stuff to GIO (was: How to Effect a Transfer)
Are these instructions for uploading folders of photos from your computer, rather than YahooGroup? Because I got all excited thinking this was a way to manually transfer my group photos folder by folder. I'm guessing that is not possible?
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Deborah
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Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups
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Thanks Bruce, I'm a blockhead I should have thought
of the forum wiki !!
Alan
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:31
PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Transferring Small
Yahoo Groups
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:21 PM, Alan Melia wrote:
You mention Direct add members under a $10 monthly payment?? I
cannot see any details of that facility or how to use it. Can you
advise. Sure.
Direct Add is achieved almost exactly like
sending an Invitation. The screens even look almost identical. The only real
difference is that the subscription proposal does not have to be accepted on
the receiving end. The people being added are shanghaied directly into the
group, do not have to confirm their accounts, and will begin to receive group
emails immediately.
This can be very handy if you have a lot of people
who are afraid to click on links in emails or otherwise struggle with the
normal invitation process. Paying for Premium every year and using Direct Add
instead of Invite has saved my primary group a lot of hand-holding.
All
that said -- in the context of migrating from Yahoo Groups on the cheap --
there is nothing to prohibit you from keeping that ten bucks in your pocket
and simply using the Invite process instead.
See also:?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-From-Yahoo
Hope
this helps,
Bruce
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does anyone know if the files and photos are gone on the Yahoo side.? I have signed up for a migration just wandered if I just spent $110 for nothing.
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Re: Yahoo member migration if "No Email" status
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:30 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:
I also disabled nomail on my new list but see the nomails were switched to special.
If people prefer to read their messages online, I believe it it best to respect that; forcing them to receive unwanted emails will only chase them away. However, it's nice to be able to contact everyone if unusual circumstances (like this one) arise. The "Special Notices" option provides that functionality, and is the default if a "no email" person is transferred into a groups.io group that does not permit the "no email" message delivery option. Regards, Bruce
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Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:21 PM, Alan Melia wrote:
You mention Direct add members under a $10 monthly payment?? I cannot see any details of that facility or how to use it. Can you advise.
Sure. Direct Add is achieved almost exactly like sending an Invitation. The screens even look almost identical. The only real difference is that the subscription proposal does not have to be accepted on the receiving end. The people being added are shanghaied directly into the group, do not have to confirm their accounts, and will begin to receive group emails immediately. This can be very handy if you have a lot of people who are afraid to click on links in emails or otherwise struggle with the normal invitation process. Paying for Premium every year and using Direct Add instead of Invite has saved my primary group a lot of hand-holding. All that said -- in the context of migrating from Yahoo Groups on the cheap -- there is nothing to prohibit you from keeping that ten bucks in your pocket and simply using the Invite process instead. See also:? /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-From-YahooHope this helps, Bruce
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Re: Yahoo member migration if "No Email" status
Thank you and good point about the nomail.
I also disabled nomail on my new list but see the nomails were switched to special.?
Susan
On Thursday, October 17, 2019, 11:57:54 AM PDT, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 02:51 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:
where is this setting?
Susan -- In groups.io, it is in the Message Policies block of Settings. I have "no email" disabled for all my groups.
Many members are on nomail so when the messages are no longer accessible on the home page, well I guess they will find out the hard way so I just answered my question.?
Yeah, pretty much. You can try to notify them by collecting all the "no email" people and contacting them directly (i.e.: outside of Y!G). In practice, I think you'll find that most of those accounts are deadwood and emails will begin to bounce as soon as you start sending them anything. More information at? /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups#Y21group-after-the-transferRegards,
Bruce
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Group.io's excellent service
Last year when the first rumors of Yahoo Group's demise started to surface, Michoacan Net moved to groups.io and became? [email protected] ? There were no transition issues and we have had no problems with our messages or from our members.? In fact, I'm not sure everyone knew they were in a new group since our group went from Michoacan_Net (yahoo) to MichoacanNet (.io)? Since we switched, there have been no issues with the new site and I'm very pleased with everything involved with groups.io.? This managers forum is a great help since they actually answer emails.?? BUT, since I have never had problems,? I've never needed help.?
Feliz viaje, David
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Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups
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Hi Bruce can I tail end this topic. You mention
Direct add members under a $10 mothly payment?? I cannot see any details of that
facility or how to use it. Can you advise.
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Alan Melia
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 6:54
PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Transferring Small
Yahoo Groups
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 01:43 PM, Laurence Taylor wrote:
How can you upgrade for a month? Is there a pro-rata payment, or
do we
have to pay for a year regardless? If you go to
Admin>Upgrade and click the "View/Change Plan" button, there are options
for Premium Yearly or Premium Monthly.
You might find a month of
Premium handy if you want to Direct Add subscribers to your group without
going through the invitation process. It is also a lot cheaper ($10 vs
$110).
However, if you want groups.io to attempt to move your message
archive, files and photos and so on (in addition to your subscribers), you
have to pay the $110. This payment also allows you to re-try the transfer
later if some content doesn't make it over, due to ongoing Yahoo server
issues.
The money has to be paid up-front and there are no
refunds.
Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Transferring Small Yahoo Groups
Definitely disappointing. I'll stop recommending groups.io to people, then, and definitely look for alternatives for my groups in the future.?
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Re: question about 10 GB limit
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:09 PM, <mraroid@...> wrote:
Do emails count against this 10 GB limit??Or is it just files and photos?
The items that count against your storage limit are listed near the bottom of the Pricing page ( /static/pricing). Regards, Bruce
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