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Re: a question regarding links in messages

Steph Mathews
 

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Hi Shal, thanks for the tip.? Steph


On 5/3/2017 9:16 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

Steph,

> In one of my groups I have a member who sent a message with a link in
> it but when she sent it the link was in that message but then another
> message was sent from her account that had the link by itself.

Look in the header of the two messages to see if their Message-ID: field has the same value.

If not, then the two messages were generated separately, and there's nothing Groups.io can do about that.

If they have the same Message-ID then one is a (mangled) copy of the other. And then the question becomes where and why that happened. I would trace the Received: fields to see where they diverged - before receipt by Groups.io or after.

> I looked at my group's settings and there is nothing out of the
> ordinary that is not set right.

I can't imagine how this could be a Groups.io problem. Some questions:

What email service did the member use?
What email interface (webmail, mobile app, PC client)?
Did both messages post to the group Messages section (unmoderated)?
?Or (moderated), did both messages appear in the Pending list?

I have seen messages get duplicated in transit, but usually that results in two identical copies (except for divergent Received fields). I don't think I've heard of a case where the copied message body was so different.

Shal





Re: a question regarding links in messages

 

Steph,

In one of my groups I have a member who sent a message with a link in
it but when she sent it the link was in that message but then another
message was sent from her account that had the link by itself.
Look in the header of the two messages to see if their Message-ID: field has the same value.

If not, then the two messages were generated separately, and there's nothing Groups.io can do about that.

If they have the same Message-ID then one is a (mangled) copy of the other. And then the question becomes where and why that happened. I would trace the Received: fields to see where they diverged - before receipt by Groups.io or after.

I looked at my group's settings and there is nothing out of the
ordinary that is not set right.
I can't imagine how this could be a Groups.io problem. Some questions:

What email service did the member use?
What email interface (webmail, mobile app, PC client)?
Did both messages post to the group Messages section (unmoderated)?
Or (moderated), did both messages appear in the Pending list?

I have seen messages get duplicated in transit, but usually that results in two identical copies (except for divergent Received fields). I don't think I've heard of a case where the copied message body was so different.

Shal
Re: a question regarding links in messages

Steph Mathews
 

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I am sorry, I should have been more detail about it.? She is forwarding an email with a link in it but then her email client sends another message with that 1 link in it.? Steph


On 5/2/2017 10:50 PM, Sharon Villines wrote:

If the person is using Safari, the program is getting too helpful. For some reason, it saves every address from people and mixes them up for groups. If i receive a message from Marcia that she sent to a yahoo group, it can be saved as "Marcia Rucker, [Yahoo group name]¡±.

If I¡¯m not careful the next time I send a message to Marcia or toe theYahoo group because the wrong address can automatically fill. 

So check the automatically saved addresses of recipients.

Sharon


On May 2, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Steph Mathews <smathews@...> wrote:

In one of my groups I have a member who sent a message with a link in it but when she sent it the link was in that message but then another message was sent from her account that had the link by itself.  I looked at my group's settings and there is nothing out of the ordinary that is not set right.  Is anyone else noticing something like this in their group?  Thanks!  Steph

Re: Downloading the membership list

 

LeeAnne

To get a .CSV of Members.

go Home|Admin|Members

See in the main part of the screen a list of members which can be sorted by:

Display Name ??? Email ??? Delivery ??? Joined

Select which members you want by Checkbox on left. (looks like if left All Unchecked they all download.)?

Then click on the Download button up at the top of the screen: ? Member, Bulk Removal, Download.

A new window opens of /g/my-site/memberlist.csv.? Do a File|Save ;

or you could Select the contents,? Copy and then Paste into a spreadsheet or a text document.

OK,

Tony
Re: Downloading the membership list

 

You guys rock! ?Thanks sooo much.?
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-LeeAnne

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Re: a question regarding links in messages

 

If the person is using Safari, the program is getting too helpful. For some reason, it saves every address from people and mixes them up for groups. If i receive a message from Marcia that she sent to a yahoo group, it can be saved as "Marcia Rucker, [Yahoo group name]¡±.

If I¡¯m not careful the next time I send a message to Marcia or toe theYahoo group because the wrong address can automatically fill.

So check the automatically saved addresses of recipients.

Sharon

On May 2, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Steph Mathews <smathews@...> wrote:

In one of my groups I have a member who sent a message with a link in it but when she sent it the link was in that message but then another message was sent from her account that had the link by itself. I looked at my group's settings and there is nothing out of the ordinary that is not set right. Is anyone else noticing something like this in their group? Thanks! Steph
Re: Subscription change by e-mail

 

Can anybody point me at a full list of all e-mail commands ?
A group's Home page lists a few incliding Help. It returns a list of all others.
Re: Manual column with in table - can it be done ?

 

Thanks, Shal, ?

Much appreciated. ?

I will definitely follow through on your suggestions.

Regards,
Jules



From: Shal Farley <shals2nd@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017, 1:40
Subject: Re: [GMF] Manual column with in table - can it be done ?

Jules,

> I am trying to move all the contents from my yahoo group before I
> begin inviting the members over to this new setup from the old group.

A disadvantage of what you're doing is that the content at Groups.io is
uploaded by, and hence owned by, you - rather than the member who
originally contributed it to your Yahoo group. That's not a problem if
the content was contributed to that group by you and/or other moderators
originally.

The Groups Transfer agent is able to copy all of the content of your
Yahoo Group for you, and it will preserve the linkage between the
content and the member who uploaded it.
/static/transfer

A disadvantage of having the transfer agent do it is that it copies the
memberships first (so that it can establish those linkages) and then the
content. Usually this presents no difficulty, but sometimes the transfer
takes a little while to complete, and eager members might start posting
and uploading immediately, getting new material mixed in with the
transferred material.

I think a solution to that is to use the group's Settings page to
prevent member contributions until after the transfer of content has
completed. That would be:

[_] Announcement Group (in Group Settings)

and then one of the "Only moderators" settings for each of the areas
under the Features section.

If you do this you should probably include that in your pre-transfer
announcement to your Yahoo Group members, so they understand why there's
a brief before the Groups.io posting and features are enabled for them
to contribute.

> The far left column I am disregarding as it counts the numbers of
> rows.

Note that those are not row numbers in the spreadsheet sense. They are
an ID (a sequence number or serial number) assigned to the row at its
creation - if you delete a row the other rows do not change number. If
you sort by a column the numbers sort with the rest of the row content.

> However, I need to adjust the 'actual width' of the left column of
> questions. Can someone please explain how this is done.

It does not appear that this can be done.

> To be specific the column is too narrow and the words don't wrap
> around properly for me.

The column content _should_ word wrap. I'm not sure why they don't for
you, it may be a browser issue. Or maybe something about the content of
cells (pasted non-break spaces instead of ordinary spaces?). In any
case, if no one else here in GMF has a suggestion this might be a
bug/issue to report to [email protected]. Tell them the name of the
group and the table, the browser you use, your OS and anything about how
you created the table that might be unusual.

> Thanks in advance, and I apologise in advance if this post is in the
> wrong place.

This is the perfect place to ask. In this case, since the feature you
want does not appear to exist, one place to look is on the Groups.io
to-do list:


And, since I don't see a relevant entry in the Database column there,
you can make a request for the feature (manual column width adjustment)
in the beta@ group:
/g/beta/

Shal
a question regarding links in messages

Steph Mathews
 

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In one of my groups I have a member who sent a message with a link in it but when she sent it the link was in that message but then another message was sent from her account that had the link by itself.? I looked at my group's settings and there is nothing out of the ordinary that is not set right.? Is anyone else noticing something like this in their group?? Thanks!? Steph
Invitation shelf-life

 

I'm just setting up my group and using invitations instead of transfer from Yahoo to clean up the list. ?Do invitations expire and, if so, for how long are they valid?
Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Will link to it then. Sounds easier.

Thanks,

Barb
Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Barb,

Shal, this is fantastic! Is all of the information current?
Probably. Some of it might be "ahead of current" if there are revisions that Mark hasn't (yet) incorporated into the official help page.

If you spot anything that isn't current or isn't clear please correct it.

Can we copy and paste to use in the Wiki in our groups?
Yes, of course. But as with the official help page itself (which has handy permalinks on sections) the stuff in the Mockup is publicly readable, so you can also link to it rather than copy.

Shal
Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

"So now we can use this mock-up as a place where GMF members can contribute corrections and additions as proposed updates to the official help page."
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Groups.io-Help-page-Mock-up

Shal, this is fantastic! Is all of the information current? Can we copy and paste to use in the Wiki in our groups?

Barb
Subscription change by e-mail

John
 

Hi,

Newbie here just in process of setting up groups.io and putting together some guidelines for members.

In yahoogroups, members can change subscription type without logging in by sending e-mail to address like groupname-digest@...

I cannot find any documentation on the equivalent feature in groups.io but by a bit of experimentation, I have found that [email protected] and [email protected] work.

Can anybody point me at a full list of all e-mail commands ?

Cheers

John
Re: Downloading the membership list

 

LeeAnne,

I just tried to download our membership list but all it did was open
a page in my browser with a long list of names email addys.

How do we get the CSV into a proper file?
I usually copy that whole page (Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C) and paste it into a blank worksheet in Excel. But that's because I'm usually going to do some examination/analysis of it.

If you just want to keep the file for your records, you should be able to use the Save Page As feature in your browser to write the page to a file on your computer.

Shal
Re: Downloading the membership list

 

On 2 May 2017 at 5:36, LeeAnne Bloye wrote:

I just tried to download our membership list but all it did was open a
page in my browser with a long list of names email addys. How do we get
the CSV ?into a proper file?
The download gives you a proper CSV file (comma-separated values).

All you have to do is command your browser to File > Save As, and create
a name & location.

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Jim
Poston@...

<< Black holes are where God divided by zero. >>
Re: Manual column with in table - can it be done ?

 

Jules,

I am trying to move all the contents from my yahoo group before I
begin inviting the members over to this new setup from the old group.
A disadvantage of what you're doing is that the content at Groups.io is uploaded by, and hence owned by, you - rather than the member who originally contributed it to your Yahoo group. That's not a problem if the content was contributed to that group by you and/or other moderators originally.

The Groups Transfer agent is able to copy all of the content of your Yahoo Group for you, and it will preserve the linkage between the content and the member who uploaded it.
/static/transfer

A disadvantage of having the transfer agent do it is that it copies the memberships first (so that it can establish those linkages) and then the content. Usually this presents no difficulty, but sometimes the transfer takes a little while to complete, and eager members might start posting and uploading immediately, getting new material mixed in with the transferred material.

I think a solution to that is to use the group's Settings page to prevent member contributions until after the transfer of content has completed. That would be:

[_] Announcement Group (in Group Settings)

and then one of the "Only moderators" settings for each of the areas under the Features section.

If you do this you should probably include that in your pre-transfer announcement to your Yahoo Group members, so they understand why there's a brief before the Groups.io posting and features are enabled for them to contribute.

The far left column I am disregarding as it counts the numbers of
rows.
Note that those are not row numbers in the spreadsheet sense. They are an ID (a sequence number or serial number) assigned to the row at its creation - if you delete a row the other rows do not change number. If you sort by a column the numbers sort with the rest of the row content.

However, I need to adjust the 'actual width' of the left column of
questions. Can someone please explain how this is done.
It does not appear that this can be done.

To be specific the column is too narrow and the words don't wrap
around properly for me.
The column content _should_ word wrap. I'm not sure why they don't for you, it may be a browser issue. Or maybe something about the content of cells (pasted non-break spaces instead of ordinary spaces?). In any case, if no one else here in GMF has a suggestion this might be a bug/issue to report to [email protected]. Tell them the name of the group and the table, the browser you use, your OS and anything about how you created the table that might be unusual.

Thanks in advance, and I apologise in advance if this post is in the
wrong place.
This is the perfect place to ask. In this case, since the feature you want does not appear to exist, one place to look is on the Groups.io to-do list:


And, since I don't see a relevant entry in the Database column there, you can make a request for the feature (manual column width adjustment) in the beta@ group:
/g/beta/

Shal
Downloading the membership list

 

Hi All,

I just tried to download our membership list but all it did was open a page in my browser with a long list of names email addys.

How do we get the CSV ?into a proper file??

--
-LeeAnne

?Archivist
Manual column with in table - can it be done ?

 

Hi All,

I am only?very new to groups and so far I love everything about it. ? I am trying to move all the contents from my yahoo group before I begin inviting the members over to this new setup from the old group. ?Any help and tips will always be very much appreciated.

I have also tried to create?a database with two columns. ? Basically, the left column is for the questions, the right column is the answers to the questions.

The far left column I am disregarding as it counts the numbers of rows. ?

However, I need to adjust the 'actual width' of the left column of questions. ?Can someone please explain how this is done. ?To be specific the column is too narrow and the words don't wrap around properly for me. ?

Thanks in advance, and I apologise in advance if this post is in the wrong place.

Regards,

Jules

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