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Re: Direct add members


 

Frank,

There's an option to upgrade to only one month of Premium for $20, and then it automatically reverts back to a free group after a month's time.? This is handy for doing a bunch of Direct Adds within a few weeks.? I do this at specific times when we have a bunch of new members.? (And in the months in between, I just do invites, because it's not that much work to chase down the occasional person or send them very specific instructions about what to look for and reply to.)

I find bulk inviting to be far less than satisfying than bulk direct adding.? (And for me, "bulk" means 10 to 20 people.)? As Andy mentioned, it requires chasing down members.? I find that many people don't recognize the system-generated email sent from <groupname>@groups.io .

In more than 20 years of running groups (going all the way back to Mark's original eGroups), I have never had Direct Adds result in more spam.? I never type in email addresses; I always copy and paste the addresses from prior emails from the persons I am adding.

(Note that I don't generally have open groups, so I know who nearly all the people I'm adding are.? In the one or two situations when I ran an open group, I always add to approve any members, which occasionally meant having an email exchange with them to figure out whether they were legitimate.)

Yahoo Groups nearly ended things for me and my dozens of groups, when it eliminated Direct Add altogether.? I was thankful when I saw that Mark provides that ability in Groups.io .

Hope this helps.


From: "Frank via groups.io" <cfabrams@...>
To: "GroupManagersForum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2024 10:22:18 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Direct add members
Thanks to all of you for your responses.? I'm a new (free version) user.?

Frank Abrams
Cary, NC 27511 USA
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 10:06?AM Bruce Bowman via <bowman46118=[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 05:05 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
Being able to Direct Add new members saves me from the world of pain that is sending invites and then chasing up those who don't respond.?
It's speculated that Direct Add is a leading source of spam trap addresses finding their way into accounts. Most problems stem from typos that will land in Bounced status eventually. But some of them do not, and that's why we had to do reverification.?
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In that context, I once suggested that Direct Added people [who don't already have a account] like everyone else. Forget reverification, how about doing initial verification? What a concept...
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I knew the notion wouldn't be popular, and it wasn't.?
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I don't believe responding to a confirmation email is all that onerous. But if so many folks are unable to do it with an invitation (the OP's point), perhaps I am mistaken. We'll probably have to land in the Spamhaus doghouse a few more times before the tide turns. This is one situation where I hope I'm not vindicated.
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Regards,
Bruce


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