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Re: GIO changes from Mark


 

On 13/01/2020 15:46, Laurence Marks wrote:

I believe you are incorrect, but it could be a matter of definitions.
Let's use these:
*Upload:* Messages from Yahoo Groups which have been captured on an individual's computer are transferred by any means to appear as individual messages on a group in Groups,io.
*Forwarded:* Messages sent to another address will be relayed to
Groups.io
Yes, I suppose it's a matter of definitions.

To my mind, "forward" in this context means that an existing message is
added to the IO group using SMTP or a similar service. "upload" means
that the messages are added as files, usually via an upload dialog in
the browser or possibly via the API, and "import" means that the content
is added to the group in such a way that they are stored in a different
format.

Okay, I'm sure there are holes in these definitions (for example, when
the IO developers add messages to a group's actual archive by converting
MBOX files, I could call that "importing", but mortals can't do that).

Using those definitions, the messages are uploaded.
It is my understanding that both PG Offline's new tool and Lena's method
use SMTP to "upload" the messages. Hence my label "forwarding". The
messages end up in the IO group's message archive, and currently the
only way to upload messages into that message archive is by sending it
as an actual e-mail (I'm not sure about the new API).

I'm not dissing the PG Offline tool or Lena's script. One advantage of
using such an approach would be to ensure that added messages are
grouped together properly into "topics", as they are called on IO
groups. Messages that were added to groups via the Easy Transfer method
do not get sorted into topics even if they have identical subject lines
and were posted shortly after each other. I'm sure this can still be
fixed by the IO groups developers.

==

In another post I mentioned redirection as an alternative to forwarding,
but I got to a point where IO groups started doing odd things to my
mails and could not figure out why. Redirection retains the original
poster as the actual original sender, and it retains both threading and
the original posting date in mail programs (although that is only
relevant for people who download the message archives).

Samuel

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