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Thank you guys for your insights and success stories.

I'll get into the jam in 2022 (raspberry jam anyways)

Happy?Holidays!

Michael

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 2:58 PM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:

>>>?Isn't the ASI Air basically a (more expensive) raspberry pi that comes preconfigured?

In a very general sense, yes. But ZWO took the Indian foundation and built apps on top of it, so it’s customized to the point that you wouldn’t recognize it compared to say ekos.?

AAP definitely has the self-contained feel. The apps are functional and work well together (provided you only use ASI cameras, focuses, etc. though it does work with other mounts including Gemini).?

However, if you want to do something else, you are stuck. For example, their version of PHD was pulled from the open source repository some time ago, so the latest features are unavailable and some basic capabilities are limited (e.g., no backlash compensation).?

For people who enjoy fiddling or tuning things, the rPi approach is probably a better (and less expensive) approach

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:32 PM Tino Heuberger via <tinoheuberger=[email protected]> wrote:

Isn't the ASI Air basically a (more expensive) raspberry pi that comes preconfigured?

If so it should be running linux with INDI, EKOS and KSTARS.
You will have to install the INDi Driver (INDI is the equivalent of ASCOM on linux) for your mount then.

They can usually be found on the github repo here (with instructions to install them):

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On Tuesday, December 28th, 2021 at 9:21 PM, Michael Herman <mherman346@...> wrote:

Nick,

Not having an ASI Air, I cannot say.

You'll have to experiment, or contact ZWO for their ASIAir instructions.

The Gemini-1 uses only a standard serial port at 9600 baud to pass instructions back and forth. The Gemini sysrem takes its own instruction set. That instruction set was based on the earlier Meade instruction set. Paul K is the real expert in this area.

ASCOM has these instructions in it's Gemini.net driver interface.

If some other group member knows how these parts (ASI air and Gemini-1) all fit together, please let us know the right way for Nick to proceed.

Happy holidays and a safe New Year,

Michael

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 1:10 PM Nick <nbill1797@...> wrote:

Michael and Howard,

Thanks for the reply. It did take a few reboots to get back on track. It’ll be a week or so before we have clear skies to test the system.

Are there any concerns running the Gemini 1 on the ASI air pro platform? I’m not plugged into a laptop or hand controller when running.

Thanks
Nick

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Brian?

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>>>?Isn't the ASI Air basically a (more expensive) raspberry pi that comes preconfigured?

In a very general sense, yes. But ZWO took the Indian foundation and built apps on top of it, so it’s customized to the point that you wouldn’t recognize it compared to say ekos.?

AAP definitely has the self-contained feel. The apps are functional and work well together (provided you only use ASI cameras, focuses, etc. though it does work with other mounts including Gemini).?

However, if you want to do something else, you are stuck. For example, their version of PHD was pulled from the open source repository some time ago, so the latest features are unavailable and some basic capabilities are limited (e.g., no backlash compensation).?

For people who enjoy fiddling or tuning things, the rPi approach is probably a better (and less expensive) approach

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:32 PM Tino Heuberger via <tinoheuberger=[email protected]> wrote:

Isn't the ASI Air basically a (more expensive) raspberry pi that comes preconfigured?

If so it should be running linux with INDI, EKOS and KSTARS.
You will have to install the INDi Driver (INDI is the equivalent of ASCOM on linux) for your mount then.

They can usually be found on the github repo here (with instructions to install them):

Sent with Secure Email.

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On Tuesday, December 28th, 2021 at 9:21 PM, Michael Herman <mherman346@...> wrote:

Nick,

Not having an ASI Air, I cannot say.

You'll have to experiment, or contact ZWO for their ASIAir instructions.

The Gemini-1 uses only a standard serial port at 9600 baud to pass instructions back and forth. The Gemini sysrem takes its own instruction set. That instruction set was based on the earlier Meade instruction set. Paul K is the real expert in this area.

ASCOM has these instructions in it's Gemini.net driver interface.

If some other group member knows how these parts (ASI air and Gemini-1) all fit together, please let us know the right way for Nick to proceed.

Happy holidays and a safe New Year,

Michael

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 1:10 PM Nick <nbill1797@...> wrote:

Michael and Howard,

Thanks for the reply. It did take a few reboots to get back on track. It’ll be a week or so before we have clear skies to test the system.

Are there any concerns running the Gemini 1 on the ASI air pro platform? I’m not plugged into a laptop or hand controller when running.

Thanks
Nick

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Brian?

Brian Valente

portfolio

Michael and Howard,

Thanks for the reply. It did take a few reboots to get back on track. It’ll be a week or so before we have clear skies to test the system.?

Are there any concerns running the Gemini 1 on the ASI air pro platform? I’m not plugged into a laptop or hand controller when running.?

Thanks?
Nick

?

?

Isn't the ASI Air basically a (more expensive) raspberry pi that comes preconfigured?

If so it should be running linux with INDI, EKOS and KSTARS.
You will have to install the INDi Driver (INDI is the equivalent of ASCOM on linux) for your mount then.

They can usually be found on the github repo here (with instructions to install them):

Sent with Secure Email.

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On Tuesday, December 28th, 2021 at 9:21 PM, Michael Herman <mherman346@...> wrote:

Nick,

Not having an ASI Air, I cannot say.

You'll have to experiment, or contact ZWO for their ASIAir instructions.

The Gemini-1 uses only a standard serial port at 9600 baud to pass instructions back and forth. The Gemini sysrem takes its own instruction set. That instruction set was based on the earlier Meade instruction set. Paul K is the real expert in this area.

ASCOM has these instructions in it's Gemini.net driver interface.

If some other group member knows how these parts (ASI air and Gemini-1) all fit together, please let us know the right way for Nick to proceed.

Happy holidays and a safe New Year,

Michael

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 1:10 PM Nick <nbill1797@...> wrote:

Michael and Howard,

Thanks for the reply. It did take a few reboots to get back on track. It’ll be a week or so before we have clear skies to test the system.

Are there any concerns running the Gemini 1 on the ASI air pro platform? I’m not plugged into a laptop or hand controller when running.

Thanks
Nick

Michael and Howard,

Thanks for the reply. It did take a few reboots to get back on track. It’ll be a week or so before we have clear skies to test the system.?

Are there any concerns running the Gemini 1 on the ASI air pro platform? I’m not plugged into a laptop or hand controller when running.?

Thanks?
Nick

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Alright gents... It seems my G11 (circa 2007) is a little sensitive when working with the ASI Air Pro (AAP). I've thumped my head enough on the proverbial wall many - many times. Thinking it's time to ask the pros.

Here's the setup: Gemini 1 Lvl4 v1.05, recently changed the Eprom per Michael Herman's advice. Mounted on heavy duty tripod. The rig isn't taken down. Hand controller is not connected.? ASI Air Pro (not plus), version 1.8(8.83). ASI 120mini guide cam, ASI 294MC main. External motors (servo I think).

Symptom: Go-To works fine on first object, then completely misses following objects.

Example:?during last use- let's call them nights one and two, I had no issues. PA was fast and easy. Plate solving was nice and smooth. Error free Go-To with target on center. Even slewed to and photographed Comet Leonard before it descended. Enjoyed three targets afterwards...Ahh life is GOOD :)

Then, on night three the uglies showed up. Followed the same process of turning on the system and had issues from the jump. PA was fussy, plate solving seemed to lock up, then this- Go-To the first object was ok but not great. Go-To second object was WAAYYY off (pointing down). The misdirected OTA happened consistently. Half a dozen times before I had to shut down.?

I ran through the setup a few times with basically the same result. I even tried "sneaking up" on the object (Jupiter in western sky, then eventually down to Leonard). No luck. BUT...I did note that movements Eastward (starting from NCP) seemed to be the culprit. It nailed M45(once) but didn't want to see, Capella, M42 or Jupiter. All of these targets yielded a downfacing OTA.

The only thing that seemed to work was to point my scope west after polar alignment. In my case Vega, then Jupiter, then Formalhaut. All seemed to be much closer, however I couldn't confirm since the clouds rolled in. Lens location seemed much more acceptable though.

The AAP displays my mount as?"Losmandy Gemini"?on the drop-down menu. No problems syncing and controlling mount via Gemini 1 serial port using?ATEN UC232A. It's actually REALLY nice...when it works.?

Possible causes: settings, meridian flip, firmware??

Q: Did I just get lucky the first couple of nights when she ran flawless? Any advice on this one? Is AAP compatible with my system??


Thanks,
Nick

I reported an issue with MaxIm DL 6 not nudging properly using the Gemini Telescope ASCOM driver. I would choose "nudge" 10 arcsec and the scope would move way to far. The issue is NOT with MaxIm. After logging serial traffic in ASCOM, Maxim is issuing the correct command, but the mount is way over correcting. The same happens in The Sky Pro using the ASCOM driver. I also connected The Sky using its native Gemini driver. However, I am accessing the observatory remotely and can't check on the accuracy of the coordinates (I do not have access to the hand controller).

the issue is either with the ASCOM interface or the mount itself. I am using Gemini 1 v. 1.04. I have not updated the firmware to the latest version, 1.05. Any suggestions or ideas??