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Re: G-11/Gemini compatibility with ASI Air
As a data point toward this topic, I have a G11G and am currently using an Astroberry and a GL.Inet AX1800 to control it. The G11G's Gemini is connected to the AX1800 by ethernet cable, as is the Astroberry. The AX1800 then connects over Wifi to the house network, where I can remotely access the Astroberry. I've never used USB to connect to the Gemini, ethernet has always worked trouble free for me. I purchased the AX1800 because the wifi on the Raspberry Pi running Astroberry was too weak, and I needed to run an ethernet cable to the Gemini. So, the AX1800 has given me a stable wifi connection to the Astroberry and the Gemini.
As for how I set up the three devices, Losmandy has a good video on how to set the Gemini up for ethernet control, and there was a post somewhere on here (sorry, can't recall exactly where at the moment) describing how to set up a "travel router" for this usage case. |
Re: G-11/Gemini compatibility with ASI Air
I can't speak for Jim (hopefully he'll chime in here) I assume what he meant was (for example) plugging in computer via USB and then other devices via ethernet. Kind of a hub/router for USB?+ ethernet On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 9:04?AM Chip Louie <chiplouie@...> wrote: Brian, Brian? Brian Valente astro portfolio? portfolio astrobin? --
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Re: G-11/Gemini compatibility with ASI Air
Brian,
I'm confused, what's he (Jim) asking?? With the ASIAIR and Gemini-2 connected to a Wi-Fi router you already have a complete standalone network you can connect to using Wi-Fi or Ethernet.? What does the USB3 data line do?? -- Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware? ? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA? |
Re: G-11/Gemini compatibility with ASI Air
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 04:45 PM, Rob Matson wrote:
Hi Rob, Don't do what that person did. The person who posted the review / experience of the Slate router had nothing to do with shortcomings of the GL.iNET Slate AC750 router and everything to do with shortcomings of the person posting.? The poster had no idea what they were doing and didn't understand the ASIAIR or how networks and routers work.? ? I posted how to use a travel router to fix the ASIAIR Pro and now Plus Wi-Fi problems years ago. Hundreds of people have used that information to sucessfully resolve the ASIAIR Wi-Fi defect.? Yours is the simplest situation - fix the ASIAIR Wi-Fi so you can use it as it should have worked out of the box to directly communicate with a smartphone or tablet, not over the house LAN or Wi-Fi network. I use Android phones and tablets so if you have an iOS phone or tablet I can help with the router but others will need to pitch in on the phone side though it is pretty much the same with different ICONs used. Many as in almost all iphone and tablet users? have found that turning off wireless data helps getting their iOS devices to connect to the Wi-Fi more reliably. That is my one iOS pro-tip.? Once you have decided to act instead of just suffering all you need is the travel router, buy one with external antennas, and a couple of CAT6 cables long enough to connect your ASIAIR and Gemini-2 to wherever you place the router. On router placement, do not be tempted to locate the router as part of the moving payload. To do this makes the Wi-Fi signal pattern change as the mount moves and you will be confused by the lack of Wi-Fi signal strength consistency.? The rest is easy and takes maybe five minutes to setup if you have done it before and maybe ten.minutes if not. If you get a GL.iNET travel router let me know, and if interested I will walk you through it. Or look for my old posts which had screen shots and comments on the settings.? Those Nike marketing guys had something when they said "Just do it" -- Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware? ? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA? |
Re: G-11/Gemini compatibility with ASI Air
>>>I'm having a hard time understanding what you are thinking. If a travel router has a USB port it is almost always used as an auxiliary memory socket or as a way to add a wireless cellular to the router. I understand what' he's asking, but you're right the USB is primarily for cellular, firmware updates, or other non-networking types of connections On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 8:23?AM Chip Louie <chiplouie@...> wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 04:43 PM, Jim Waters wrote: Brian? Brian Valente astro portfolio? portfolio astrobin? --
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Re: G-11/Gemini compatibility with ASI Air
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 04:43 PM, Jim Waters wrote:
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 05:24 PM, Chip Louie wrote:?Hi Jim, I'm having a hard time understanding what you are thinking. If a travel router has a USB port it is almost always used as an auxiliary memory socket or as a way to add a wireless cellular to the router. The USB ports on the GL.iNET travel routers AFAIK do not support any other use.? -- Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware? ? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA? |
Re: Model parameter change upon sync in Starry Night - Newb Question
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 07:08 AM, Paul Kanevsky wrote:
ed settings windowThank you, Paul. I will give this a try!? Regards,? George |
Re: New computer ethernet woes
Brian Valente
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNice job Mike! ? Thanks ? Brian ? Brian Valente Losmandy Astronomical ? Losmandy.com Tutorials and vids at ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mike bechtel
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 2:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] New computer ethernet woes ? I changed the gateway AND used a google tip to go through the control panel to install my ethernet IP address. That worked. Thanks to all for your help. I hate new computers. ? Mike ? ? Sent from for Windows ? From: Brian Valente ? yeah that seems to be an issue for saving. for a direct IP connect i'm not sure the gateway is critical, so you can try changing it to something else, or the ip address of the gemini ? On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 12:39?PM DaleN <aleday.elsonnay@...> wrote:
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Re: G-11/Gemini compatibility with ASI Air
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe reviews of (an earlier) GL router used in conjunction with ASIAir Pro were not promising at the link below (admittedly from two years ago): ? ? I¡¯d love to be able to occasionally monitor how my imaging runs are coming along without stepping outside (in the cold) and standing within 8 feet of my scope. I¡¯m not a Wi-Fi network guy, but clearly there has to be a simple Wifi solution for overcoming the slow, short-range communication capabilities of the ASIAir without physically connecting an ethernet cable from the ASIAir to my nearest (indoor) Linksys Velop or Apple Airport Express.? --Rob ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Chip Louie
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 4:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Gemini-II_io] G-11/Gemini compatibility with ASI Air ? On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 10:50 AM, Zolt Levay wrote:
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Re: G-11/Gemini compatibility with ASI Air
Jim Waters
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 05:24 PM, Chip Louie wrote:
NEW Beryl AX3000Zolt, -? do you use this only to connect to the Gemini-2?? For imaging could you also plug your USB3 data line into the router and have a complete WiFi setup? ----------------------- Jim W Phoenix, AZ USA |
Re: G-11/Gemini compatibility with ASI Air
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 10:50 AM, Zolt Levay wrote:
Zolt,If you add high performance mini travel router into the mix your Wi-Fi range will suddenly become much larger and your smartphone or tablet user interface will feel a lot faster because it is no longer being hamstrung by the low performance native Wi-Fi of the RPi4 or CM.?Adding the travel router also allows you more flexibility in that you can now reliably connect to you home net work and work from a laptop or PC and a bigger screen. Oh and you get to be warm too.?Do you have a recommendation for a travel router? Could I still have a wired connection to my home router? Or do you then connect the Air to the WiFi using Station Mode??I've been using a wired connection from the Air to my home router, which works great (though I do have to deal with yet another cable, of course), at least if I'm not out in the field somewhere. I had been using the old TP-Link nano travel routers in Bridge mode to get an Ethernet Wi-Fi connection to the Gemini 2 for many years with a laptop. nearby. Then the ASIAIR came out and suddenly the Wi-Fi speed as well as the Ethernet port became particularly important. My research led me to the small GL.iNET travel routers which have 2-3 switched 1Gbps Ethernet ports and faster Wi-Fi standards. At the time, the old Slate AC750 had 3x 1Gbps Ethernet ports. Then came the Beryl which has 3x switched 1Gbps ports plus dual band 2.4GHz. & 5GHz. AC1300. Currently the fastest mini travel router is the NEW Beryl AX3000 which is a blazing fast Wi-Fi6 router with 574Mbps 2.4GHz. and 2402Mbps on 5GHz. bands. If you want to see your preview frames load almost instantly this is the travel router for you.? I'm running the Beryl AC1300 and plan to buy the new BerylAX3000 soon.? The new Beryl AX3000 only has 2 Ethernet ports so no cable connection is possible here but if you buy the Slate AX1300 you will have the necessary 3 ports.?? ? -- Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware? ? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA? |
Re: New computer ethernet woes
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 02:02 PM, mike bechtel wrote:
Too much hate already. Instead love that you have it working now and learn from your mistakes.? -- Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware? ? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA? |
Re: New computer ethernet woes
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI changed the gateway AND used a google tip to go through the control panel to install my ethernet IP address. That worked. Thanks to all for your help. I hate new computers. ? Mike ? ? Sent from for Windows ? From: Brian Valente
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 4:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] New computer ethernet woes ? yeah that seems to be an issue for saving. for a direct IP connect i'm not sure the gateway is critical, so you can try changing it to something else, or the ip address of the gemini ? On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 12:39?PM DaleN <aleday.elsonnay@...> wrote:
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Re: New computer ethernet woes
yeah that seems to be an issue for saving. for a direct IP connect i'm not sure the gateway is critical, so you can try changing it to something else, or the ip address of the gemini On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 12:39?PM DaleN <aleday.elsonnay@...> wrote:
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Re: New computer ethernet woes
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý+1 to Art and David! It¡¯s prob not allowing you to save b/c it duplicates the (incorrect) gateway address.-Dale
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Re: New computer ethernet woes
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYour gateway should not be the same IP.GW is probably 192.168.1.1 Ping it to verify. Open a cmd window and type ping -t 192.168.1.1 to see if you get a response? On Feb 26, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
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Re: New computer ethernet woes
Hi Mike This is a Windows 11 quirk. It's definitely possible to save it, although I forget the exact details. You'll want to hunt this down as a Windows 11 thing (google may give you some good leads here). i'm not in front of a computer right now On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 11:29?AM mike bechtel <michael.bechtel@...> wrote:
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Re: New computer ethernet woes
Looks like you set the IP Address and Gateway address to the same value. They should be different. Another working ethernet device will likely verify the proper Gateway address. Also, usually you don't specify leading zeros: 192.168.1.100 is the usual format. On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 2:29 PM mike bechtel <michael.bechtel@...> wrote:
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Re: New computer ethernet woes
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Thanks?Brian, I was unaware of that particular video.? I followed all your instructions and ran into a snag when? I tried to configure the ethernet side on my Windows 11 computer. It doesnt look quite the same as your example, but pretty close. However, when
I enter all the parameters the screen wont let me save it. I have tried it with and without the DNS server information. Here is what I get:
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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 12:57 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Gemini-II_io] New computer ethernet woes ?
Hi Mike
what instructions did you follow?
The details depend on how you are connecting:
if you are doing a direct ethernet connection there's a tutorial here:
if you are going via router, there's a tutorial (longer discussion, but it explains it) here:?
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Re: G-11/Gemini compatibility with ASI Air
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýA travel router?! ?I travel full-time w/ my AsiAir and G11 for many years now. ? I also test AsiAir updates on a few other Apple devices before I go production with my primary iPad. What is clear is the tablet devices are what hits the speed. All I have is a 5 GB wifi extender and my network is FAST but it depends which tablet I¡¯m testing on. On Feb 26, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Zolt Levay via groups.io <zgl@...> wrote:
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