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Rebecca Ryan
开云体育When purchasing my Barleans flax oil I’m given two choices one has Lignan with a blue label and the other is a red label that says fresh which is the best to use with our cottage cheese.Thank you Rebecca On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:03 PM, teri belyea via groups.io <tbelyea@...> wrote:
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Not Sandra, but I can say for certain that you do not want any lignans in your oil. You will add freshly ground flax seed later. All the best, Rod in MN/USA On Tuesday, July 26, 2022, 03:38:30 PM CDT, Rebecca Ryan via groups.io <ryanr5959@...> wrote: When purchasing my Barleans flax oil I’m given two choices one has Lignan with a blue label and the other is a red label that says fresh which is the best to use with our cottage cheese. Thank you Rebecca On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:03 PM, teri belyea via groups.io <tbelyea@...> wrote:
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开云体育Hello,
Thank you for clarifying the lignans point!
I have been using Trader Joe’s flex oil for a while. What sold me on it was it is organic, and of course the price which is about 2.5 times lower than that for the Barlean’s brand.?
What I don’t like about the Barlean brand is it’s plastic container. I read somewhere oil has the propensity to absorb chemicals from plastic during hot temperatures. And one never knows what happens to food stuffs during delivery. I am probably
overly paranoid on this issue, though!
Thanks.?
Dmitry?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 5:17:11 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson ?
Not Sandra, but I can say for certain that you do not want any lignans in your oil. You will add freshly ground flax seed later.
All the best, Rod in MN/USA On Tuesday, July 26, 2022, 03:38:30 PM CDT, Rebecca Ryan via groups.io <ryanr5959@...> wrote:
When purchasing my Barleans flax oil I’m given two choices one has Lignan with a blue label and the other is a red label that says fresh which is the best to use with our cottage cheese.
Thank you
Rebecca
On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:03 PM, teri belyea via groups.io <tbelyea@...> wrote:
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Glass is better, but there are very few options available in glass. I have been using oil that was bottled in plastic the entire time I have been on the protocol and I healed so I think it is not a major issue. I would expect the amount of heat required for chemicals to leach into the oil would be higher than one would expect from normal handling and shipping, if at all. I use Puritan's Pride oil for much the same reason as you use Trader Joe's, the cost. Also the convenience of online availability comes into play. As long as the numbers are similar I see no reason to pay more for a brand name. All the best, Rod in MN/USA On Wednesday, July 27, 2022, 07:21:10 AM CDT, Dmitry Suspitsin <sudmal2@...> wrote: Hello, Thank you for clarifying the lignans point! I have been using Trader Joe’s flex oil for a while. What sold me on it was it is organic, and of course the price which is about 2.5 times lower than that for the Barlean’s brand.? What I don’t like about the Barlean brand is it’s plastic container. I read somewhere oil has the propensity to absorb chemicals from plastic during hot temperatures. And one never knows what happens to food stuffs during delivery. I am probably overly paranoid on this issue, though! Thanks.? Dmitry? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 5:17:11 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson ? Not Sandra, but I can say for certain that you do not want any lignans in your oil. You will add freshly ground flax seed later. All the best, Rod in MN/USA On Tuesday, July 26, 2022, 03:38:30 PM CDT, Rebecca Ryan via groups.io <ryanr5959@...> wrote: When purchasing my Barleans flax oil I’m given two choices one has Lignan with a blue label and the other is a red label that says fresh which is the best to use with our cottage cheese. Thank you Rebecca On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:03 PM, teri belyea via groups.io <tbelyea@...> wrote:
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开云体育Rod,
Thank you! I will be switching to another branch. The Trader Joe’s label says 5mg of lignans per serving; I don’t know if it’s a lot or not.?
Thanks again,
Dmitry?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 10:26:49 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson ?
Glass is better, but there are very few options available in glass. I have been using oil that was bottled in plastic the entire time I have been on the protocol and I healed so I think it is not a major issue. I would expect the amount of heat required
for chemicals to leach into the oil would be higher than one would expect from normal handling and shipping, if at all.
I use Puritan's Pride oil for much the same reason as you use Trader Joe's, the cost. Also the convenience of online availability comes into play. As long as the numbers are similar I see no reason to pay more for a brand name. All the best, Rod in MN/USA On Wednesday, July 27, 2022, 07:21:10 AM CDT, Dmitry Suspitsin <sudmal2@...> wrote:
Hello,
Thank you for clarifying the lignans point!
I have been using Trader Joe’s flex oil for a while. What sold me on it was it is organic, and of course the price which is about 2.5 times lower than that for the Barlean’s brand.?
What I don’t like about the Barlean brand is it’s plastic container. I read somewhere oil has the propensity to absorb chemicals from plastic during hot temperatures. And one never knows what happens to food stuffs during delivery. I am probably
overly paranoid on this issue, though!
Thanks.?
Dmitry?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 5:17:11 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson ?
Not Sandra, but I can say for certain that you do not want any lignans in your oil. You will add freshly ground flax seed later.
All the best, Rod in MN/USA On Tuesday, July 26, 2022, 03:38:30 PM CDT, Rebecca Ryan via groups.io <ryanr5959@...> wrote:
When purchasing my Barleans flax oil I’m given two choices one has Lignan with a blue label and the other is a red label that says fresh which is the best to use with our cottage cheese.
Thank you
Rebecca
On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:03 PM, teri belyea via groups.io <tbelyea@...> wrote:
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开云体育I use the Biona cold pressed organic flaxseed oil, it’s easily available online in the U.K. not sure about the US though.On 29 Jul 2022, at 04:53, Dmitry Suspitsin <sudmal2@...> wrote:
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Lignans are just a waste of money as they are not helpful to the protocol and take up space in the bottle that should be used for oil. Check out Puritans Pride as they are now having their 3 for the price of 1 sale, works out to about $7 a bottle and there are also coupon codes that can get you another 15 to 20 percent off. Free shipping if you order enough. Rod in MN/USA On Thursday, July 28, 2022, 10:53:13 PM CDT, Dmitry Suspitsin <sudmal2@...> wrote: Rod, Thank you! I will be switching to another branch. The Trader Joe’s label says 5mg of lignans per serving; I don’t know if it’s a lot or not.? Thanks again, Dmitry? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 10:26:49 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson ? Glass is better, but there are very few options available in glass. I have been using oil that was bottled in plastic the entire time I have been on the protocol and I healed so I think it is not a major issue. I would expect the amount of heat required for chemicals to leach into the oil would be higher than one would expect from normal handling and shipping, if at all. I use Puritan's Pride oil for much the same reason as you use Trader Joe's, the cost. Also the convenience of online availability comes into play. As long as the numbers are similar I see no reason to pay more for a brand name. All the best, Rod in MN/USA On Wednesday, July 27, 2022, 07:21:10 AM CDT, Dmitry Suspitsin <sudmal2@...> wrote: Hello, Thank you for clarifying the lignans point! I have been using Trader Joe’s flex oil for a while. What sold me on it was it is organic, and of course the price which is about 2.5 times lower than that for the Barlean’s brand.? What I don’t like about the Barlean brand is it’s plastic container. I read somewhere oil has the propensity to absorb chemicals from plastic during hot temperatures. And one never knows what happens to food stuffs during delivery. I am probably overly paranoid on this issue, though! Thanks.? Dmitry? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 5:17:11 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson ? Not Sandra, but I can say for certain that you do not want any lignans in your oil. You will add freshly ground flax seed later. All the best, Rod in MN/USA On Tuesday, July 26, 2022, 03:38:30 PM CDT, Rebecca Ryan via groups.io <ryanr5959@...> wrote: When purchasing my Barleans flax oil I’m given two choices one has Lignan with a blue label and the other is a red label that says fresh which is the best to use with our cottage cheese. Thank you Rebecca On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:03 PM, teri belyea via groups.io <tbelyea@...> wrote:
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开云体育Hello group,?Just as an FYI, I used Puritan pride’s digestive enzymes 20+ years ago for my father‘s hematoma he had after brain surgery. It was not going down after a months time even though I used them on an empty stomach. I switched to twin labs and within three days the hematoma disappeared. I am not Confident in their products and I would never use them. It’s just my opinion? Jenny On Jul 29, 2022, at 10:22 AM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
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开云体育Ps. I believe if you go to www.vitacost.com you get Barleans Flaxseed oil at a reasonable cost…Jenny On Jul 28, 2022, at 11:53 PM, Dmitry Suspitsin <sudmal2@...> wrote:
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If you are using Barleans you can call them direct and explain that you have cancer. They will give you a pretty good discount on the Flax Oil. It is called the Benevolent program, or at least used to be. I was doing that for a couple of years. I cycled off of the FOCC for a bit but am back on. I still have oil from my last purchase that I am using. When I bought those bottles they were around $27 for a 32 oz bottle. Prices may have gone up though in light of everything that has been going on. That was in May of 2021. Very nice people to deal with. Joe On Saturday, July 30, 2022, 08:00:34 PM CDT, Jenny McCarthy via groups.io <mccar6@...> wrote: Ps. I believe if you go to www.vitacost.com you get Barleans Flaxseed oil at a reasonable cost… Jenny On Jul 28, 2022, at 11:53 PM, Dmitry Suspitsin <sudmal2@...> wrote:
Rod, Thank you! I will be switching to another branch. The Trader Joe’s label says 5mg of lignans per serving; I don’t know if it’s a lot or not.? Thanks again, Dmitry? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 10:26:49 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson ? Glass is better, but there are very few options available in glass. I have been using oil that was bottled in plastic the entire time I have been on the protocol and I healed so I think it is not a major issue. I would expect the amount of heat required for chemicals to leach into the oil would be higher than one would expect from normal handling and shipping, if at all. I use Puritan's Pride oil for much the same reason as you use Trader Joe's, the cost. Also the convenience of online availability comes into play. As long as the numbers are similar I see no reason to pay more for a brand name. All the best, Rod in MN/USA On Wednesday, July 27, 2022, 07:21:10 AM CDT, Dmitry Suspitsin <sudmal2@...> wrote: Hello, Thank you for clarifying the lignans point! I have been using Trader Joe’s flex oil for a while. What sold me on it was it is organic, and of course the price which is about 2.5 times lower than that for the Barlean’s brand.? What I don’t like about the Barlean brand is it’s plastic container. I read somewhere oil has the propensity to absorb chemicals from plastic during hot temperatures. And one never knows what happens to food stuffs during delivery. I am probably overly paranoid on this issue, though! Thanks.? Dmitry? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 5:17:11 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson ? Not Sandra, but I can say for certain that you do not want any lignans in your oil. You will add freshly ground flax seed later. All the best, Rod in MN/USA On Tuesday, July 26, 2022, 03:38:30 PM CDT, Rebecca Ryan via groups.io <ryanr5959@...> wrote: When purchasing my Barleans flax oil I’m given two choices one has Lignan with a blue label and the other is a red label that says fresh which is the best to use with our cottage cheese. Thank you Rebecca On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:03 PM, teri belyea via groups.io <tbelyea@...> wrote:
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If you are using Barleans you can call them direct and explain that you have cancer. They will give you a pretty good discount on the Flax Oil. It is called the Benevolent program, or at least used to be. I was doing that for a couple of years. I cycled off of the FOCC for a bit but am back on it now. I still have oil from my last purchase that I am using. When I bought those bottles they were around $27 for a 32 oz bottle. That was the discounted price. Prices may have gone up though in light of everything that has been going on with the economy. Regardless, it should still be much cheaper than the retail stores. That price was from May of 2021. Very nice people to deal with over the phone.
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Barleans flax oil is extortionate even with the discount, it’s rampant profiteering!
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On 31 Jul 2022, at 08:37, Joseph Grasso via groups.io <oh58mtp@...> wrote:
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Conflating digestive enzymes with cold pressed flax oil is disingenuous. Digestive enzymes are a a combination of things that are produced. Most will say the digestive enzymes are worthless in general unless live and refrigerated. There are some available that are nitrogen packaged that they say are as bioavailable as live. If you are taking digestive enzymes in pill form you may as well throw that money in the trash. Flax oil is cold pressed, there is no "production" per se and if you look at the numbers Puritan's is on par with Barleans at a third of the cost. Another online option is Piping Rock. I have used both and those are the only ones I have used and I healed. Rod in MN/USA On Saturday, July 30, 2022, 05:02:45 PM CDT, Jenny McCarthy via groups.io <mccar6@...> wrote: Hello group,? Just as an FYI, I used Puritan pride’s digestive enzymes 20+ years ago for my father‘s hematoma he had after brain surgery. It was not going down after a months time even though I used them on an empty stomach. I switched to twin labs and within three days the hematoma disappeared. I am not Confident in their products and I would never use them. It’s just my opinion? Jenny On Jul 29, 2022, at 10:22 AM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
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Hello Tom. Not sure what you meant by extortionate.?Extortion is?obtaining benefit through?coercion. Or did?you mean to say that they charge too much or are too expensive? That's different from extortion.
Rampant profiteering may be correct but I haven't really priced around other brands and I haven't purchased any oil since May of 2021. At that time the discount price was $27 for a 32 oz bottle. I honestly don't know what it is right now. I still have one more bottle to go before I purchase again. If they raised the discount price maybe someone can chime in and let us know what it is at now. I learned of Barleans from this group years ago when it was a yahoo group and others had recommended them as a quality product. Regardless of how one feels about the company, I was just revealing a way to get a discount to those that do purchase Barleans. Something that the buyer may not have known about. It's not something that they advertise and I found out about it from other members. If Barleans is corrupt, or we shouldn't be purchasing from them because of something criminal, or their quality has diminished, etc, please provide the details so that I, for one, can make a decision on my next purchase. I have always felt that they had a quality product for a reasonable price (at the discount price, not the retail price in the store). But I can easily take my business elsewhere if they are not recommended anymore for quality or moral reasons. I, like you, am sick of price gouging, and if they are guilty of that I would like to know. Joe? |
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Ron Muscella
Rod:
"digestive enzymes are worthless in general unless live and refrigerated."
I believe that is the rationale for probiotics ......was not aware it applied to enzymes.
Ron Muscella -----Original Message-----
From: Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2022 1:44 pm Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson Conflating digestive enzymes with cold pressed flax oil is disingenuous. Digestive enzymes are a a combination of things that are produced. Most will say the digestive enzymes are worthless in general unless live and refrigerated. There are some available that are nitrogen packaged that they say are as bioavailable as live. If you are taking digestive enzymes in pill form you may as well throw that money in the trash.
Flax oil is cold pressed, there is no "production" per se and if you look at the numbers Puritan's is on par with Barleans at a third of the cost. Another online option is Piping Rock. I have used both and those are the only ones I have used and I healed. Rod in MN/USA On Saturday, July 30, 2022, 05:02:45 PM CDT, Jenny McCarthy via groups.io <mccar6@...> wrote:
Hello group,?
Just as an FYI, I used Puritan pride’s digestive enzymes 20+ years ago for my father‘s hematoma he had after brain surgery. It was not going down after a months time even though I used them on an empty stomach. I switched to twin labs and within three days the hematoma disappeared. I am not Confident in their products and I would never use them. It’s just my opinion?
Jenny
On Jul 29, 2022, at 10:22 AM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
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开云体育Hi Rod and Ron,I only used the digestive enzymes to try and get this golf ball size hematoma above his ear to go down. Way back then I had heard if you were given them on an empty stomach it gets rid of excess fluid. The twin labs did the trick where the Puritans pride product did not. I did not start the Budwig diet until after my dad came home. It was about a month later that I started the Budwig diet. On Jul 31, 2022, at 5:37 PM, Ron Muscella via groups.io <romus1@...> wrote:
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开云体育Medical doctors Nicholas Gonzalez (now deceased) and Linda Isaacs have used enzymes in their protocol for pancreatic cancer.Pancreatic Proteolytic Enzyme TherapyThe use of??against cancer was pioneered by John Beard of the University of Edinburgh nearly 100 years ago. He proposed that the pancreatic proteolytic enzymes, in addition to their known digestive function, represented the body’s main defense against cancer. Several case reports of success with this therapy were reported in the?Journal of the American Medical Association?(JAMA) in 1907-8. Beard believed the enzymes had to be injected rather than taken by mouth, but research since then has proven that when taken by mouth such enzymes resist stomach acid, pass intact into the small intestine, and are absorbed into the bloodstream. Just how they work is unclear, but animal experiments in the 1960s confirmed their anticancer effect. Each patient may be prescribed up to 40 grams of freeze-dried porcine pancreas daily, taken in capsule form, away from meals and spread evenly throughout the day. The Gonzalez-Isaacs formulation is thoroughly vetted for freedom from contamination and for potency tests out at 30-80 USP units of proteolytic activity per milligram with 15-40 units of lipolytic activity per milligram. On Jul 31, 2022, at 7:51 PM, Jenny McCarthy via groups.io <mccar6@...> wrote:
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Ron Muscella
Of course the best foods with natural enzymes include:
Pineapples, papayas, mangoes, honey, bananas, avocados, kefir, sauerkraut, kimchi, miso, kiwifruit and ginger.
Adding them to your diet fortifies?gut health stimulating a healthy immune system. -----Original Message-----
From: Sandy Heerspink <sheerspi@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2022 8:14 pm Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson Medical doctors Nicholas Gonzalez (now deceased) and Linda Isaacs have used enzymes in their protocol for pancreatic cancer.
Pancreatic Proteolytic Enzyme TherapyThe use of??against cancer was pioneered by John Beard of the University of Edinburgh nearly 100 years ago. He proposed that the pancreatic proteolytic enzymes, in addition to their known digestive function, represented the body’s main defense against cancer. Several case reports of success with this therapy were reported in the?Journal of the American Medical Association?(JAMA) in 1907-8. Beard believed the enzymes had to be injected rather than taken by mouth, but research since then has proven that when taken by mouth such enzymes resist stomach acid, pass intact into the small intestine, and are absorbed into the bloodstream. Just how they work is unclear, but animal experiments in the 1960s confirmed their anticancer effect.
Each patient may be prescribed up to 40 grams of freeze-dried porcine pancreas daily, taken in capsule form, away from meals and spread evenly throughout the day. The Gonzalez-Isaacs formulation is thoroughly vetted for freedom from contamination and for potency tests out at 30-80 USP units of proteolytic activity per milligram with 15-40 units of lipolytic activity per milligram.
On Jul 31, 2022, at 7:51 PM, Jenny McCarthy via groups.io <mccar6@...> wrote:
Hi Rod and Ron,
I only used the digestive enzymes to try and get this golf ball size hematoma above his ear to go down. Way back then I had heard if you were given them on an empty stomach it gets rid of excess fluid. The twin labs did the trick where the Puritans pride product did not. I did not start the Budwig diet until after my dad came home. It was about a month later that I started the Budwig diet.
On Jul 31, 2022, at 5:37 PM, Ron Muscella via groups.io <romus1@...> wrote:
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I think you may be right, and I mixed up my enzymes. In any event, I don't corelate a processed item like that with pressed flax oil. As I said, I have used PP oil and it worked well. Sorry about the mix-up, Rod in MN/USA On Sunday, July 31, 2022, 04:37:51 PM CDT, Ron Muscella via groups.io <romus1@...> wrote: Rod: "digestive enzymes are worthless in general unless live and refrigerated." I believe that is the rationale for probiotics ......was not aware it applied to enzymes. Ron Muscella -----Original Message----- From: Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2022 1:44 pm Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson Conflating digestive enzymes with cold pressed flax oil is disingenuous. Digestive enzymes are a a combination of things that are produced. Most will say the digestive enzymes are worthless in general unless live and refrigerated. There are some available that are nitrogen packaged that they say are as bioavailable as live. If you are taking digestive enzymes in pill form you may as well throw that money in the trash. Flax oil is cold pressed, there is no "production" per se and if you look at the numbers Puritan's is on par with Barleans at a third of the cost. Another online option is Piping Rock. I have used both and those are the only ones I have used and I healed. Rod in MN/USA On Saturday, July 30, 2022, 05:02:45 PM CDT, Jenny McCarthy via groups.io <mccar6@...> wrote: Hello group,? Just as an FYI, I used Puritan pride’s digestive enzymes 20+ years ago for my father‘s hematoma he had after brain surgery. It was not going down after a months time even though I used them on an empty stomach. I switched to twin labs and within three days the hematoma disappeared. I am not Confident in their products and I would never use them. It’s just my opinion? Jenny On Jul 29, 2022, at 10:22 AM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
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I visited Natural Grocers today and they have no refrigerated digestive enzymes at all. Where on earth are they available???
On Monday, August 1, 2022, 08:41:01 AM MDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
I think you may be right, and I mixed up my enzymes. In any event, I don't corelate a processed item like that with pressed flax oil. As I said, I have used PP oil and it worked well. Sorry about the mix-up, Rod in MN/USA On Sunday, July 31, 2022, 04:37:51 PM CDT, Ron Muscella via groups.io <romus1@...> wrote: Rod: "digestive enzymes are worthless in general unless live and refrigerated." I believe that is the rationale for probiotics ......was not aware it applied to enzymes. Ron Muscella -----Original Message-----
From: Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2022 1:44 pm Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New Question for Sandra Olson Conflating digestive enzymes with cold pressed flax oil is disingenuous. Digestive enzymes are a a combination of things that are produced. Most will say the digestive enzymes are worthless in general unless live and refrigerated. There are some available that are nitrogen packaged that they say are as bioavailable as live. If you are taking digestive enzymes in pill form you may as well throw that money in the trash. Flax oil is cold pressed, there is no "production" per se and if you look at the numbers Puritan's is on par with Barleans at a third of the cost. Another online option is Piping Rock. I have used both and those are the only ones I have used and I healed. Rod in MN/USA On Saturday, July 30, 2022, 05:02:45 PM CDT, Jenny McCarthy via groups.io <mccar6@...> wrote: Hello group,? Just as an FYI, I used Puritan pride’s digestive enzymes 20+ years ago for my father‘s hematoma he had after brain surgery. It was not going down after a months time even though I used them on an empty stomach. I switched to twin labs and within three days the hematoma disappeared. I am not Confident in their products and I would never use them. It’s just my opinion? Jenny On Jul 29, 2022, at 10:22 AM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
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