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Re: anemia and colon cancer update

mike martin
 

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DG...
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Jane wanted me to ask you if he is taking any suppliments or medications which could effect the numbers you posted....She has ran off to bed and will write back in the morning....
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Mike Martin


Re: anemia and colon cancer update

 

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Re: anemia and colon cancer update

D G
 

Here are the bad numbers, summarized:
creatinine: 1.5 H mg/dl
ferritin: 3.7 L ng/dl
hemoglobin: 9.9 L g/dl
hematorcrit: 30.7 L %
mcv: 71.5 L fl
mch: 23.0 L pg
rdw 18.2 H %
platelet count: 465 H thou/cumm
esr, westergren:58 H mm/hr
cea: 58.4 (was 78) H ng/ml

As you can see, his ferritin is dangerously low. Any help is greatly appreciated. His urine pH was 5.0. He is on Genesis Laboratories cancer protocol, and is also taking FO/CC. Their formula has minerals in it, but not sure what. He has a good apetite, radically changed, little meat, mostly fish and some chicken/turkey. His main problem is eating green concentrates....doesn't like the taste; I asked if the taste of death would suit him better. I think because he sees his cancer markers dropping, he believes diet must be ok. I tried to explain anemia can kill him before other secondary problems, all the while with the tumor receding. I will be calling him tomorrow, so any help is appreciated.

From: "mike martin" <mdmartin57@...>
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] anemia and colon cancer update
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 21:13:24 -0500

What kind of anemia is it? Is it iron deficiency anemia or macrocytic anemia? I would assume iron, but want a clarification. Is he doing any kind of vitamin or mineral supplementation? How is he doing eating? Any information would help me in terms of gathering tips for you.

Jane Reinhardt-Martin, RD, LD
Author: Flax Your Way to Better Health
www.FlaxRD.com
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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] anemia and colon cancer update


"DG" I think Spirulina is good for that...isn't that what you say
Moonbeam???
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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 6:09 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] anemia and colon cancer update


> I posted a while back on my brother-in-law's cancer. His latest
blood
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> results show a big improvement from six weeks ago, however anemia is a
> concern at this point. His pH is low as well. I will give the actual
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> I am looking for ways to improve the anemic condition, which can be
> serious in cancer patient's survival outlook. Thanks.
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Flax in Bread

Lorenzo
 

I think it depends on how much heat, for how long; And on who you believe.
Next time I see something on this I will send it along.

Regards, Lorenzo

: [FlaxSeedOil2] Flax in Bread


Hi,

Thiere is point that I have seen rather often that I want to question.

Heat kills Omega 3. We are warned not to cook with Flaxseed oil.

How then does it help to put Flaxseeds or Flax flour in bread?

Maybe there is an answer to this that escapes me at present.

Does the Biochemist who advocates this have any studies that show
scientifically that there is a difference in cancer prevention, etc. by
the
use of bread with Flax flour and ordinary bread and no other differences?


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Re: anemia and colon cancer update

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What kind of anemia is it? Is it iron deficiency anemia or macrocytic anemia? I would assume iron, but want a clarification. Is he doing any kind of vitamin or mineral supplementation? How is he doing eating? Any information would help me in terms of gathering tips for you.
?
Jane Reinhardt-Martin, RD, LD
Author:? Flax Your Way to Better Health
www.FlaxRD.com

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From: JudyK
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] anemia and colon cancer update

"DG" I think Spirulina is good for that...isn't that what you say
Moonbeam???
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From: "D G" <rc_glider@...>
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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 6:09 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] anemia and colon cancer update


>?? I posted a while back on my brother-in-law's cancer. His latest blood
test
> results show a big improvement from six weeks ago, however anemia is a
> concern at this point. His pH is low as well. I will give the actual
numbers
> as I review them.
>?? I am looking for ways to improve the anemic condition, which can be
> serious in cancer patient's survival outlook. Thanks.
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Re: anemia and colon cancer update

JudyK
 

"DG" I think Spirulina is good for that...isn't that what you say
Moonbeam???

----- Original Message -----
From: "D G" <rc_glider@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 6:09 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] anemia and colon cancer update


I posted a while back on my brother-in-law's cancer. His latest blood
test
results show a big improvement from six weeks ago, however anemia is a
concern at this point. His pH is low as well. I will give the actual
numbers
as I review them.
I am looking for ways to improve the anemic condition, which can be
serious in cancer patient's survival outlook. Thanks.

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Reasons Flaxseed oil may not work

Richard Muenzer
 

Hi All

Some people are looking for a formula for the amount of Flaxseed
Oil to take. When there can be no specific amount because what is truly
required is a balance of omega 3 to omega 6. So a person consuming
more vegetables would have less intake of omega 6 than someone
consuming more grains or meat. In which case the omega 3 intake would
have to be greater for the grain/meat eater. It seems from my experimentation
that one can safely ingest 80 grams or more of omega 3 per day spread out
but depending on what you eat 30+ grams (approx. 3 tablespoons) should
work ok - but realize that flax oil has only half as much omega 3 as cod liver
oil has. So the amount for flaxseed oil would be 6 tablespoons/day.
Also omega 3 is apparently dose dependent = the more you take
the faster it will work but it is still a long process to replace the omega 3 - 6
balance in all the cells of the body.
Another key factor is the pre enzymes vitamin C, niacin (B3), pyroxidine (B6),
zinc, or magnesium. If they are deficient then proper assimilation of omega 3
or omega 6 may not take place. See:


Rick


anemia and colon cancer update

D G
 

I posted a while back on my brother-in-law's cancer. His latest blood test results show a big improvement from six weeks ago, however anemia is a concern at this point. His pH is low as well. I will give the actual numbers as I review them.
I am looking for ways to improve the anemic condition, which can be serious in cancer patient's survival outlook. Thanks.

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Re: Book Sale?????

Pat and Gail Muldowney
 

Dave, I'm sitting here with bone mets. Please mention the degree of your
illness so I can tell if your remarks are in my area of interest. I love
encouraging dialogue but need to know whether it pertains to me or not.
Thanks, Pat in Mexico

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Reese" <reesed11@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Book Sale?????


Hi Mike,
Sure you are not trying to sell your wife's book here. You say you are
not trying to be negative but looks to me that is what you are doing.
I do not buy my flax oil from Barleans but do have their order form. I
think they are the one that had Dr. Budwig's two books translated into
English and they do sell them. The Flax oil as a True Aid... list for
the grand sum of $1.95. If they went to the expense of getting the books
published and translated why would they be nuts enough to mention the
competition.
I think most of the people on this list have cancer or health problems
and some of us have had cancer and used the flax oil longer than others
with at least some good results.
After 18 months on Gerson therapy I started cheating on the diet too
much. While on Gerson the psa was under control and dropping but my self
discipline went to hell and I started doing everything you are not
supposed to do to be successful on Gerson. Gerson started you off among
many other things with 2 tbl of flax oil and one cup of cc or yogurt a
day and very shortly dropped the oil down to 1 tbl per day.
When I quit Gerson I realized real quick I needed somethng to bring the
psa back down or slow it down so went up to between 4 to 8 tbl a day and
it did bring the psa back down. Can't expect flax to do it all by itself
though.
I am more than satisfied with what flax oil can do and I don't want to
wait for the "scientific study", that will probably never be tried with
the cc or yogurt.
I did not avail myself of conventional therapy of any kind except for
the original biopsy and get a blood test every month. Over 5 1/2 yr now.
Do I believe everything Budwig says. Nope. I do know that flax oil helps
people with health problems from a little to a lot.
Thats the longest email in a year so guess that will last me another
year.
Dave Reese
ps. I buy my flax oil from Omega Nutrition and at a lower cost. They are
slower in getting the shipment to you than Barleans but after dealing
with them for 5 1/2 years I can live with that.

mike martin wrote:

Cliff :


Wasn't trying to be negative, just something about those things was
bothering me. You know how I feel regarding the things Dr. Budwig and
other like yourself are finding. It just seems weird to me that
Barleans doesnt even have her book listed there. And I certainly never
saw any kind of commercial endorsements of products in any of the
scientific material I read. What about Spectrum? they make a good
oil.....why where they not mentioned. In Janes book we mention
individuals who make products but we listed all the individuals making
products equally not just one, exclussively. I wonder how many people
would believe my wifes book, if at the end she said something like
Dietitian Jane recomends Natural Ovens for flax products along with an
800 order line and failed to mention the other 14 places they could
get quality flax products. Dr. Budwig should not have engaged in that
kind of practic - it cheapens her message. If I where reading her work
for the first time and didnt have benefit to other information we
discussed, there is no way I could take her seriously.

I just felt compelled to mention them, thats all.

Respectfully
Mike Martin

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infra red saunas

JudyK
 

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Hi all....anyone have experience using infra red sauna tx.?? I have been told and also read that they have been known to shrink tumors with tx. daily for a month or more. Most of anything I know is in ads that sell them so anyone out there have any real experience???? The smallest one is a two seater and costs about 3,000.00.It is supposed to be much like hyperthermia but wish I could find someone really knowledgeable. Thanks , Judy Hoffman


Re: Prostate Caancer

 

In a message dated 10/24/01 4:25:38 PM Central Daylight Time, drmrman@... writes:


. Briefly, I was diagnosed with colon cancer 4 years ago and went through 8 months of chemo.


Ben,
What size was your tumor? My sister-in-law is just finishing her 8 months of chemo. She feels great at this time. I suggested fo/cc, but she won't use it right now. She feels so great that she doesn't think she will need it. I worry about her.

Carolyn
CKreibich@...


Posted with permission

Cliff Beckwith
 

yes, you have my permission. i don't mind if you use my name. i wrote to
you about 8 or 9 months ago, saying the oil haven't lowered my markers, but
after the stroke and such, it took almost 11 months. normally cancer
markers for women with overian and uterine cancers keep rising, and my last
markers were 32 in july.

really i didn't even want to know on the last ca 125 test for i was scared
it had risen. thank the lord, the oil and excersing and everything finally
dropped down to 26. i was so surprised.

you do have my permission . also, another gentlemen that had lung cancer
really bad, is doing really well. his wife came to me about 6 months ago,
and we talked and she bought a large 32 ounce of flax oil, and purchased 3
all together. now she finally buys her own wholesale, and she is one person
who took my advice seriously.

a lot of people just don't want to believe about the oil, and it's so hard
to get them to take the oil, even when they are close to death.

keep up your good work with passing on the flaxoil messages, and i'll do my
part in texarkana, texas.

Cynthia


Re: PCa

Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi Jim,

I am using 4 tablsepoons of Flax Oil in 3/4 cup of cottage cheese. There
isn't any hard and fast rule.

Dr. Budwig said a number of years ago that it should be 4 oz. a day which
would be a half cup.

It should be mixed as thoroughly as possible ahead of time. I use a small
hand held blender. I have a Rival, but I think a braun is better.

Cliff

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To: FlaxSeedOil2@... <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Date: Saturday, October 27, 2001 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] PCa


Cliff
I have flaxsed oil, and low fat CC. How much do I mix with each other
to
get a desired effective mixture?

Jim O'Connor


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Re: FW: [FlaxSeedOil] message

Cliff Beckwith
 

It isn't, but I truly thank you.

It was a message from Jules Reichel that had a very thoughtful and
scientific debunking of Dr. Myer's warnings about PCa being bad for PCa.

It was on this list over a year ago and I have sent it numerous times to
individuals.

I may find it. It not, cest la vi.

Cliff


Re: PCa

 

Thanks Cliff. Much appreciated!
Jim O'Connor


PCa

Cliff Beckwith
 

To those whom it may concern,

One thought occurred to me again today that I had kind of forgotten though I
have mentioned it lots of times.

The issue of whether or not Flaxseed Oil makes PCa worse instead of better
is very important.

If it makes one worse, I have been dead for a long time and don't realize
it. There was a period of around five years that I did no standard
treatment at all with a semi aggressive PCa and used a lot of Flaxseed Oil
and cottage cheese.

I have a fair number of friends and acquaintences that are walking around
with no problems who are also dead and don't know it.

If the theory that Flaxseed oil makes PCa worse is not entirely valid, then
a lot of men are going to die earlier than necessary with the blessings of
the Medical establishment.

Each must decide to do whatever makes him the most comfortable.

Cliff

PS. My cousin and I have talked about the effect on the economy. We feel
that we have saved the government a lot of Medicare costs.

However, it is costing them a lot more Social Security so it is balancing.

Cliff


Re: Digest Number 17

Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi Rick,

That is very interesting information. I have saved it to drafts and will
use it widely.

I would love to pass on the things we are finding concerning putting it eyes
for remission of cataracts [currently happening to me] sight degeneration,
and even possibly reversal of macular degeneration. We know of one case
where that seems to have happened and more are trying it.

There can be no damage from trying according to my doctor.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Muenzer <r.muenzer@...>
To: FlaxSeedOil2@... <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Date: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Digest Number 17


Hi All

I'm new on this group. I believe in omega 3s will reverse out almost
any
disease. If you wish to study this scenario further there are about 7000
web
pages dealing with the EFA balance here is just a couple of well written
ones.



This one has a very interesting summary and what looks like the most
valuable test you could get.


I also use cod liver oil and fish oils as well as flax oil.

Rick





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Re: PCa

 

Cliff
I have flaxsed oil, and low fat CC. How much do I mix with each other to
get a desired effective mixture?

Jim O'Connor


Re: Adding water

Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi Dave,

No problem. I have been putting milk or orange juice in mine to get the
same effect.

Once I was making little milk shakes that way with a little ice cream and
taking a chance on the sugar.

I burnt out my mixer's little motor.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Cooper <dcooper109@...>
To: List - FlaxSeedOil <flaxseedoil2@...>
Date: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:25 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Adding water




Hi all,

I have been mixing the flax oil and cc in a blender. Since the cc is a
little
thick, I have been adding a half a cup of water, which lets it mix more
easily
and also makes it easier to clean the blender. Can anyone think of any
reason that adding water might interfere with the effectiveness of the
flax/cc combination?

Thanks,
Dave


Re: Book Sale?????

mike martin
 

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David Reese :
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Like I have said before, I think barleans is just fine when it comes to flax oil, Flax Oil is a great product. I also think Dr. Budwig has made a wonderful break through with her program. But it must be said that she hasn't brought it to the scientific community. You can not give a speech 41 years ago without any of the hard scientific data and expect to be taken seriously by the scientific community.?When you publisher puts right on the cover that you have been nominated for the noble prize, when the noble commission doesn't publish list of nominee's - you can not expect to be taken seriously. I submit that she has not taken the proper steps to even introduce this seriously to the science. She has all the facts, she has all the data - just put them out there. This treatment demands to be studied and looked at and millions of people should be benefiting from it. You guys should not have to be defending yourself and the results you have achieved. I have great hopes that the clinic in spain will submit this information to the people and that everyone afflictted with this dreaded desease have the same chance that you and many of the others have had.
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When my wife created her book, she listed everyone and everything that had to do with flax. She listed the products they sell and how to get them. We did not recieve a dime from any of these people - including Barleans - who is also mentioned. To say that they would be crazy to list other manufacturers sounds more to me to be a gready exploitation of Dr. Budwigs work. Not to mention the fact that it diminshes scientific credability.
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Respectfully
Mike Martin