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Re: Question.
John Polifronio
开云体育Ms Reinhardt-Martin
This still leaves unanswered, the question of "how much" flax
meal would provide substantial cardiovascular and other health benefits for the
average consumer.
If I'm consuming a large amount of om6 in my diet, the
quantity of om3 becomes more important.? If I avoid diets that greatly
predominate in om6 over om3, I needn't consume so much of the om3 rich
foods.
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Re: Question.
mike martin
开云体育Stuart:
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Flaxseed meal has very little fat(12-15%) left
after processing,so you will obtain very little omega-3 fatty acids. The fiber
and lignans are intact, so you?are still getting some benefits. I advise
people not to purchase flaxseed meal, only because the omega-3's are missing,
and it can be expensive. Hope this helps.
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Jane Reinhardt-Martin, RD, LD
Author:? Flax Your Way to Better
Health
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Re: FO in the eyes- infection?
melanie
I was about to suggest to Marie to put some colloidal silver in her eye to
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get rid of the infection, because I've seen that work for many things, too, but I was not about to tell her to put anything else into her very sensitive eyes! I am still in shock over that oil causing her the problem, and I'm like you, I think she must have contaminated herself one way or another from not using sterile objects in the first place. WHO KNOWS? I am to blame, because I should have offered to do it for her. Live and learn! I'm NOT trying to scare anyone off from trying it, I'm just warning what could possibly happen. I hope I never see or hear of anyone getting an infection from it again. Melanie ----- Original Message -----
From: D G <rc_glider@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:25 AM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] FO in the eyes- infection? After reading a few posts about some getting what may appear to beis pure hogwash. Your eyes won't turn blue, and it does work well for eye |
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Re: FO in the eyes- infection?
Miz Judy & Mel
开云体育VERY wise you are..and please let us
know the results. When Cliff gets back home, he is no doubt going to be reading
these same post. I have an idea he will be telling us the same thing about
sterilizing and having clean everything. Essential oils can be very dangerous if
not handles also properly..there is usually warnings on labels. Take heed to
everything we put on, in, or around the body. Things will also absorb into the
flesh very easily through pours of the skin. TRY a dab of this on the flesh
before every using it as prescribed. If by chance it begins to itch, or burn, or
fester than wash it off and never use it.
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Now I've been using the flaxseed oil
in my eyes have had no problems so far.And I have noticed some change in my
eyesight. Last time I was checked for glasses was two and half years ago..but I
have tri-focal and they are great for my kind of work.But the doctor said even
then my eyes had gotten better..I had had a lazy like eye. I was at this time
using flaxseed oil in the eyes. Not everyday, but whenever the eyes begin to get
tired or the sinuses begin to bother me. But I learned to put it in the eyes
just before going to bed, this way the eyes could rest and be healing at the
same time. Never once did I notice anything wrongly. I would take the bottle
from the refrigerator and carefully fill the eye-dropper, which I buy at a drug
store for around 25 cents. I would first boil some water, and poor it into the
bottle and immediately dump it out, turning it over on a sterilized gauze. I
always wanted to be SAFE as possible.
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FO in the eyes- infection?
D G
After reading a few posts about some getting what may appear to be infection after dropping FO into the eyes, I have a few questions:
1)was the eye dropper bottle sterile? 2)if it was a used bottle, what was in it? Some essential oils leave a noticable residue even after rinsing throughly. This could be a source of irritation. My mother will be trying the FO in the eyes soon for cataracts. Based on what I've see here, I will mix a small amount of colloidal silver in the oil, although it may not mix well. Please don't post warning me about the dangers of colloidal silver (properly made that is) used in the eyes. It is pure hogwash. Your eyes won't turn blue, and it does work well for eye infections. I now make my own CS with a system from . The amount I will use is just enough to kill any pathogen that "may" be in the oil. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at |
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John Polifronio
开云体育Keep in mind, that it would be difficult to find an oil that
gets rancid more quickly than flax oil.? I wouldn't put a single drop of
rancid oil in my mouth, let alone my eyes.? Some researchers think that
it's almost impossible to keep flax oil fresh, and are suspicious of the
freshness of the flax oil found in health food store refrigerators, even before
the opaque bottles are opened.
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Miz Judy & Mel
开云体育Strangely, my wife also put the oil in her eyes the same
two times that I did, and
suffered no ill effects.?? Maybe some people's
eyes just don't like flax oil??
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Dave this is why we stress to people.." That
what might work for one person may not for the other.Everybody has to be very
careful. The following is what I answered on the Natural Well Being
list..
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Letter One;
Chances is this Melanie, this lady is elderly Right? She may not have
followed directions to the T..Flaxseed oil is not to have the Lignan in it.
Golden seal is best for the eyes to keep them from stinging. And her bottle
might have been contaminated if she used it directly from the bottle. She should
have poured the oil?into an eye dropper bottle and left this settle before
using. The lignans is what causes the grittiness like sand in the eyes. I've
learned to let the new bottle settle and using an eye-dropper only take what is
on the top to fill the eye-dropper bottle. I've never have had any problems this
way. Chances are her cataracts fell off leaving a stinging, and the matting was
from the fluids still healing in the eye. With a little warm water on a cloth
laid over her eyelids I have an idea her eye would have healed up..She no doubt
didn't have anything sterilized ( all instruments must be sterilized before
using in the eye. And if by chance she picked up germs from unwashed hands. I do
not believe it was the flaxseed oil that caused the infection..but the methods
she was using. She needed to have someone else do this for her.And if right
after putting the 1-drop ( not a lot into the eye ) she should have laid down
and kept the eyes closed. I bet she rubbed the eyes that became irritated as the
flaxseed was first applied..she probably felt a grit ( like sand ) and begin to
rub..this alone caused irritation, then if her hands or hanky was soiled she
caused more problems. You get to the bottom of this, and ask her questions as to
each step she took in apply this to her eyes..Cleanliness is next to
Godliness.
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letter 2
Please folks..when advising someone else how to do
something..make sure it is wrote down..they make a copy and? one for
yourself as well.
?REMEMBER we are not to be playing doctor in
our house....but only?giving people an option. Never tell them something
heals ..this is false..But tell them what it has done for you and maybe someone
you know well had good results. But it should be left up to the individual
themselves to apply the things your talking about at the time. This is why I had
hesitated about giving out the cancer salve recipe. To often people ( are so
DUMB ) is putting it mildly, that they will try to use it for something other
than what it is for.Or apply more than what is needed. WHEN we say recommended
dose..that is what we mean. If I'd say to you. 1/4 Teaspoon, I didn't say 1
teaspoon. More don't heal any faster. EACH time you use a product, or want to
try something..PLEASE always make sure you first understand the proper way to
handle it. One don't put a bottle of something on a shelf or refrigerator where
other things contaminating can touch it. Keep you medications, herbs, and so
forth inside another safe container. I try to keep my flaxseed oil and etc, in a
Ziploc baggy. GERMS can travel from food to food, by just touching another
you've just handled. And above all make sure everything you use on or in the
body is sterilized. Bottles ( containers ) have germs. And lets say if I have a
new bottle of oil..look at all who handled it first at the factory, then the
store. How many people first handled this container? Did the bottle get washed
off from your hands to hers..or from whomever might have helped this lady apply
the oil to her eyes..Was she aware what rubber-gloves are for? I doubt if you or
her thought of this either. And id she used them,?did she use throw way
gloves..or use the same ones over and over. If she had no gloves, she could have
used a cheap plastic bag over her hands.
And if she applied this oil with cotton..chances are a piece of this got into the eye to irritate. Or an dust particle floating in the air.Think of an oyster. SAND grit in the shell, nearly drives that poor-sea-creature to death. They will be so irritate, that they put over the grit some liquid goop..that later turns into a pearl. But we are not like this oyster..so we have no pearls growing in the eye. But soon as things got worse, this lady heads for a doctor that will now make flaxseed oil look like a dirty pearl. People have got to learn to use things right in the first place..and if people are told about something, they have no knowledge of only by hearsay..chances are you become the enemy, because it didn't work..because of their own stupidity. Maybe it is a lesson well learned another one the hard way..always be prepared, with good instructions. Have it written down sealed and signed if necessary. ? ? I live in my own little world,
but it's ok, they know me here. I can say anything I? like.. 'cause nobody listens to me anyway. ? ?
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Re: oil in the eyes harmed my neighbor
melanie
开云体育THANKS, Dave for sharing this. It's like Marie's husband told
me, each person's body is different and what works for one, may harm the other,
and the sad thing is, we don't know till we try it! I'm glad that this that
happened with Marie, is not an isolated case. How did you get over your eye
infection? May I ask?
THANKS,
Melanie
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Re: oil in the eyes harmed my neighbor
Dave Cooper
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Hi Melanie and all,
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I was debating whether to post this earlier, but now that
I see Melanie's post,
thought I would share that I also ended up with an eye
infection after putting the
flax oil in my eyes.? I let a bottle of Barlean's
high lignan sit in the refrigerator for
two days, then poured a little of it into an eye dropper
bottle that had previously
had echinacea tincture in it and which I had carefully
rinsed, trying to keep everything
as sterile as possible.? On the first night I put one
drop in each eye.? In the morning
both eyes were swollen but I figured/hoped it was probably
from something else.
So I put some in again on the following night.? The
morning after I had a serious
eye infection.??That was the end of the flax oil
in the eyes experimentation for me.
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Strangely, my wife also put the oil in her eyes the same
two times that I did, and
suffered no ill effects.?? Maybe some people's
eyes just don't like flax oil??
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Dave
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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:26:43
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?? From: "melanie" <webemeat@...> Subject: oil in the eyes harmed my neighbor ?
Hello all! I am so frustrated right now! Last
Friday, I had a phone call from my elderly neighbor that I have mentioned before
on this list. (She had put the oil in her eyes one time and said it felt like it
peeled something off and it hurt.) Well, then last week, she tried it again, and
put it in her eyes right before she went to bed. She said that her one eye hurt
so bad after she put it in that she couldn't sleep hardly at all that night.
Then, she woke up and her eye was completely matted shut! And it was full of
infection! She went to a local dr and he referred her to one in a town 45 miles
away, it was that bad!!!!!! I went and saw her Friday night and I just cried and
cried! I still am hurting because I caused her so much pain! She has told
eveyone that she sees what I have done to her, and she knows I feel badly, but I
AM responsible for what happened to her.? Her eye looked TERRIBLE! I have
seen other people do this, right here in my town, and NEVER did I imagine that
it would hurt anyone like it did to her! I am very fortunate that she is not
going to sue me! If it was anyone else, I'm sure I'd be hearing from their
lawyer right now! Her eye dr asked her if she was from Oklahoma, and she said
no, why? He said that when he was practicing there, he would actually have to
did the flax seeds out of people's eyes there! That's pretty wierd, I
thought! ? I'm DEFINATELY NOT blaming anyone here on this list, I just want to let you all learn from my experience, what can happen! I would like to know why this happened to her. ? So, whenever you have someone try something,? BE CAREFUL! I know this stuff has helped way more people than it has hurt, but that's just how it goes for me! I was so confident that it would do her some good! But, that sure back-fired! ? I told Marie that I would pray that her eye will be better than ever after this infection is gone, can anyone join me in that prayer? I thank you all so much! Melanie |
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oil in the eyes harmed my neighbor
melanie
开云体育Hello all! I am so frustrated right now! Last Friday, I had a
phone call from my elderly neighbor that I have mentioned before on this list.
(She had put the oil in her eyes one time and said it felt like it peeled
something off and it hurt.) Well, then last week, she tried it again, and put it
in her eyes right before she went to bed. She said that her one eye hurt so bad
after she put it in that she couldn't sleep hardly at all that night. Then, she
woke up and her eye was completely matted shut! And it was full of infection!
She went to a local dr and he referred her to one in a town 45 miles away,
it?was that bad!!!!!! I went and saw her Friday night and I just cried and
cried! I still am hurting because I caused her so much pain! She has told
eveyone that she sees what I have done to her, and she knows I feel badly, but I
AM responsible for what happened to her.? Her eye looked TERRIBLE! I have
seen other people do this, right here in my town, and NEVER did I imagine that
it would hurt anyone like it did to her! I am very fortunate that she is not
going to sue me! If it was anyone else, I'm sure I'd be hearing from their
lawyer right now! Her?eye dr asked her if she was from Oklahoma, and she
said no, why? He said that when he was practicing there, he would actually have
to did the flax seeds out of people's eyes there! That's pretty wierd, I
thought!
? I'm DEFINATELY?NOT blaming anyone here on this
list, I just want to let you all learn from my experience, what can happen! I
would like to know why this happened to her.
? So, whenever you have someone try something,? BE
CAREFUL! I know this stuff has helped way more people than it has hurt, but
that's just how it goes for me! I was so confident that it would do her some
good! But, that sure back-fired!
? I told Marie that I would pray that her eye will be
better than ever after this infection is gone, can anyone join me in that
prayer? I thank you all so much!
Melanie |
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Flaxseed to a cat
Miz Judy & Mel
开云体育 >is so long.The thought is that if the dogs get
inhalation form, the signs would be respiratory distress (breathing hard, acting
very sick, bleeding from > >the nose/mouth).MIKE
Bullin
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Dear Mike..
?I wonder what the first signs are? And if cats can also?get
this. Which it might be harmful to all animals around the farm and in the house
or just running?in the yards. Can animals pass anything like this onto
humans?
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Also talking about a cat..Our friends over the weekend had to take STINKY
to the vet Saturday. She was vomiting, and not at all feeling well. They also
found on her neck some tiny like raised lumps. Upon the examination,? she
had only a couple fleas.The vet said he felt that the fleas were biting her
flesh is??where the lumps came from, and this got into her
bloodstream, causing her nausea. Then Sunday? she was again not feeling
very?well and was vomiting what looked like just water. Giving it some
thought we think that maybe the chlorinated water makes her ill. So they boiled
some water. In hopes this will help until they can buy her some mineral water. I
had taken along my flaxseed oil and some C/silver and added this to her water.
She drank it and then most of the morning she went off to sleep.But again upon
waking she got a little sick. This is when we think that the water has a lot to
do with it. They have just moved here, so chances are she is not adjusted to
this water. WE now wonder if they should have weaned her from the old water
gradually into the new? But how would a person do that?
? ?
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Re: anemia and colon cancer update
JudyK
开云体育larry....please tell us about the herbs you took to
shrink your tumors. Did you also have conventional tx?? Thanks? Judy
Hoffman
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Here is a claim that baked flax is still OK
Lorenzo
flaxseed-Storage and Baking Stability--look for this item at the site.
flaxseed-Storage and Baking Stability Best Regards, Lorenzo Join the CaveManFood list and eat like our ancestors. CaveManFood-subscribe@... Trapshooters Join this; trapshooter-subscribe@... |
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Re: anemia and colon cancer update
Esther Poehler Wiechmann
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I'd greatly appreciate as much info (about herbs helping
to
Warm regards,
larynami@... wrote: Hello I got my tumors to shrink . I had lung and liver cancer. One thing that reversed my laack of appitite and started me back to health was yerba mate' 3 tablespoons steeped in 1 pint of hot water then blended in a blender while it is still warm then strained and sipped? through the day helped with stress and gave me more energy. It took about 2-3 weeks for my appitite to come back but I felt better within 2-3 days after? starting yerba mate.You can see how wonderful this stuff is by going to? www.healthfree.com and click on to wisdom of the ancients section on teas.Another great thing that helped me a lot was immune support from www.ayurveda-herbs.com. I have lots more info if you want. Larry |
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Re: Cynthia
In a message dated 10/28/01 8:27:39 AM Central Standard Time, FlaxSeedOil2@... writes:
you do have my permission .? also, another gentlemen that had lung cancer Cynthia, do you know how the man with lung cancer is?? Which type was it?? My Grandmother has small cell of the lung.? I have looked and looked for someone with it that flax seed/cc has helped..thanks Kim? |
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Re: lung cancer flax/cottage cheese
Mildred Robinson
If the fo/cc was mixed with a hand blender the first time, it will be thoroughly mixed thruout the day.? Mildred ?
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Re: lung cancer flax/cottage cheese
Mildred Robinson
Your grandmother should eat the fo/cc throughout the day - not in one sitting.? Mildred ?
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Re: anemia and colon cancer update
D G
I don't know what's in the formula as it is proprietory. The only med he's on is Vicodyn for pain. Any additional supplements must be cleared through Genesis.
For supplements he's taking FO/CC, Ellagic Acid, enzymes (broccozyme and kamozyme from Dr. Wolfe). He's not on any intense vitamin regimen. His diet consists of mostly vegetable, little fruit, fish. This is obviously acquired anemia in my view. His cancer was quite advanced, although he's in relatively good health aside from the anemia and pain from the tumor. It is my opinion he needs to rapidly alkalize himself for one thing, and the anemia....there is controversy in this. From: "mike martin" <mdmartin57@...> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at |
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