And she is doing well? What dosage is she given?
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On Apr 17, 2022, at 12:25 AM, Konni Tanaka via groups.io <konnitanaka@...> wrote:
? My mother, who has breast cancer, just started the Budwig Diet based program with the Budwig Center in Malaga, Spain. ?Fenbendazole is one of the treatments (among a number of others) that is being given to her.
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Dear Malcolm
Sorry to throw more info your way ( I know it can be overwhelming) but have you come across the herb "Saw Palmetto?"
I remember a discussion regarding SP in this group years ago and many men had found it helpful for benign prostatic hyperplasia and prostate cancer.? There are studies that suggest it can suppress tumour growth.?
There are cautions, if a person is taking blood thinning medication they cannot take Saw Palmetto. If you are interested in taking it, talk to your doctor first?
Best wishes
Julie,? Italy/ UK
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Dear Konni
Please lets us know how your Mother progresses - I have been taking Mistletoe and doing HBOT treatment after chemoradiotherapy Sep - Dec for Oesophageal Cancer in 2020 and had been doing Budwig up to Sept 2020 since 2019 but thinking of starting again as they claim I have mets in my brain (5 lesions) but I think its sarcoidosis from the Pfizer Vaccine as my bloods and CSF show no signs of cancer and the vaccine had sarcoid as an adverse effect (had it in 1990)?
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On 17 Apr 2022, at 06:25, Konni Tanaka via groups.io <konnitanaka@...> wrote:
? My mother, who has breast cancer, just started the Budwig Diet based program with the Budwig Center in Malaga, Spain. ?Fenbendazole is one of the treatments (among a number of others) that is being given to her.
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My mother, who has breast cancer, just started the Budwig Diet based program with the Budwig Center in Malaga, Spain. ?Fenbendazole is one of the treatments (among a number of others) that is being given to her.
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Hello S, ? Thank you kindly for the reply and best wishes. I looked up Perform New Roots (reduces the prostate gland) and Moducare ?(boosts the immune system) with both available in the UK. I am currently taking Tamsulosin on free prescription through our National Health Service and it works to some extent (though usually up 4+ times nightly), such that I feel I am dependant on it to avoid catheter use. I would pay for using a supplements also if my doctor approves but would not know if things will improve further. There seems so many supplements available, it gets a bit confusing. I am inclined to firstly try Perform New Roots (and is much lower cost of the two) to judge the effect. Best regards, Malcolm ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: abosSent: 16 April 2022 03:18 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Losing faith ? Hello Malcolm, My husband uses Budwig diet everyday, takes? prostate perform- new roots- and lately he takes Moducare. PSA is below 5 and free PSA normal range. Used to be much higher. I hope you get better results. ? ? On Tue., Apr. 12, 2022 at 2:56 p.m., Malcolm Thank you Julie. My depression has much improved in the last few weeks. It may be due to the BP being started 6-7 weeks ago, with the anti-depressant Citalopram being started about the same time, so cannot be sure which helped. TBH, I don’t really care as long as can get back to some normality. I plan to try getting weaned off the drug after a year or so but doubt I will drop the BP diet (going back to unhealthy foods/drinks) so I will then see if the diet does contribute to a healthy mental state. After my next blood test, I am very hopeful that my PSA level has continued to fall, thus proving the diet’s effectiveness. Best wishes. Malcolm You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#146638) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic
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You worry out of love - she is blessed to have a daughter who cares so much ??
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Hi Lykke,
Your message brings to surface my obsession….yes, I lay awake at night thinking what else could happen and what did I miss.
My mom seems to think she is as well as can be, and I am the one that is still a bit frantic.
I will absolutely try to remember your recommendation and let it go. Your are correct that Her weight etc. is not an issue as long as she feels good. ?We watch the weight to eye the accumulation of fluids in her lungs. That isn’t scientific at all and absolutely stressful,
Thank you ?? For your wise words.
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On Apr 16, 2022, at 1:35 AM, Lykke Avalon <lykkedarling@...> wrote:
? Dear Julie
I say this with much care. I suggest you to stop obsessing about your mothers weight. I lost 35 kilo myself and I now way 55-56 kilo which is my lowest ever. I watch my weight to make sure it doesn’t drop further, but I have actually been steady on this weight for several months.
I deeply understand your worry, but the energy of worry and “looking” for signs for good or bad process all the time is not helping your mother heal.?
I believe the best you can do for your mother (besides from being the wonderful support I know you already are, with diet/herbs/juices/massage etc) is to focus on brining as much joy and love as possible into her life.
stress, fear and worry lowers the immune system and happiness, gratitude and love increases it. That is proven,
I know your mother is of age. Hopefully she has many more to come, but none of us (sick or not) know what tomorrow brings. We must focus on making each “NOW” the best possible. With joy, love and laughter. Then I believe the healing comes.
Have you come across Anita Moorjani? She is very inspiring ??
Do whatever treatments feels right, and the rest of the time forget about the ilness and focus on life instead.
This “idea” took me 10 months to sink in. I to was obsessed with different protocols but forgot about my passions in life. Now I took up art and I make time for it every day. And I love it!! It takes my mind of all else, and I’m just in the now.
What does your mother do for joy? Does she have hobbies or maybe rest in nature?
I send her much healing and love to your both
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Dear Julie
I say this with much care. I suggest you to stop obsessing about your mothers weight. I lost 35 kilo myself and I now way 55-56 kilo which is my lowest ever. I watch my weight to make sure it doesn’t drop further, but I have actually been steady on this weight for several months.
I deeply understand your worry, but the energy of worry and “looking” for signs for good or bad process all the time is not helping your mother heal.?
I believe the best you can do for your mother (besides from being the wonderful support I know you already are, with diet/herbs/juices/massage etc) is to focus on brining as much joy and love as possible into her life.
stress, fear and worry lowers the immune system and happiness, gratitude and love increases it. That is proven,
I know your mother is of age. Hopefully she has many more to come, but none of us (sick or not) know what tomorrow brings. We must focus on making each “NOW” the best possible. With joy, love and laughter. Then I believe the healing comes.
Have you come across Anita Moorjani? She is very inspiring ??
Do whatever treatments feels right, and the rest of the time forget about the ilness and focus on life instead.
This “idea” took me 10 months to sink in. I to was obsessed with different protocols but forgot about my passions in life. Now I took up art and I make time for it every day. And I love it!! It takes my mind of all else, and I’m just in the now.
What does your mother do for joy? Does she have hobbies or maybe rest in nature?
I send her much healing and love to your both
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Leticia,
It’s great that you got your appetite back. Thanks for the link.
I bought a bag of Amal powder, heard it can stimulate appetite.
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On Apr 15, 2022, at 9:20 PM, LD Adame <Ladame33@...> wrote:
? Hi there, I was diagnosed in September with stage 1B BC. Had surgery in December, radiation and next is Letrozole. My weight started at 130. With combination of severe anxiety, surgery, and diet, I lost a total of 16 pounds. I'm in a better place anxiety wise, eating well, meditation, and exercising when I can. I dropped all sugar, white carbs, dairy and red meats. I started Budwig in November but have not gained a single pound back in spite of my appetite returning to normal. I'm guessing that the cleaner diet and exercise is keeping me at 114 but I feel great. Still learning nutrition, but I'm going to continue the FOCC indefinitely. The only other food supplement I'm taking is Biosuperfood F3 microalgae, which is high in astaxanthin. I'll include the link in case you want to look into it.
Blessings to you and your mom. Leticia? I hope this group can shed some light on this.
My mom used to be chubby and now she is at 114 but her tummy is still quite "chubby". I give her essential oil massage and the tummy is not hard like a pregnant person. She said that when people get old no matter how much weight they lost, their tummies stay the same.
Her appetite is still iffy and eating like a toddler now (improvement from December/January when she was literally eating like a bird). She would not allow me to weigh her but I feel that she is losing weight.
I took notes of what she ate the last few days and noticed they hover around 1800 calories only.
So I would think the weigh loss is due to low caloric intake, right? The tummy being the same size is her age?
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That would be fantastic. Don't lose faith if things aren't what you expect. I thought I might be heading in the wrong direction for the first couple months as I didn't see improvement. The first real noticeable changes started around the 4 month mark. You don't notice right off though. There just comes a day when you go, "hey, this doesn't hurt anymore" but you get so used to the pain. It is hard to explain.
All the best, Rod in MN/USA
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 04:04:48 PM CDT, Julie Ma via groups.io <julientexas@...> wrote:
Rod: It is still encouraging to know that you are still kicking after 6.5 years from the dreadful stage 4 diagnosis. I would agree that it's virtually impossible to not cheat on any diet. I would say if my mother can be there in that time, I would be kissing the ground!! On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 03:20:21 PM CDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
I agree that Budwig is the reason I am alive. But, I have always been on the lookout for something that can clean up the little bit that remains due to my improper diet. It took about 9 months for all of my symptoms to disappear, and although I was physically healthy I was miserable. I followed the regimen to the letter for that time. I just can't live with the diet for the rest of my life so I compromise. Budwig was going to have to coexist with the occasional taco, slice of pizza, etc. I am now nearly 6-1/2 years since discovery of stage 4 lung cancer and I feel great.
Rod in MN/USA
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 09:19:15 AM CDT, Tom via groups.io <thomas.carroll20@...> wrote:
Joe tippens was quite lucky with the Fembendazole I believe though because most people need to take a daily dose closer to 2000mg to get results from what I can see on the Fembendazole group anyway, personally my base cancer fighting protocol wether I liked it or not would be Budwig & then if I was not having the best results I would add to it with other things be it Fembendazole, ValAsta etc but I trust the science behind Johanna Budwig & for me that is what counts.
On 12 Apr 2022, at 19:56, Zacc D. W. via groups.io <DZacco@...> wrote:
? Keytruda was the trial that Joe was in. I know people who used it without the Fenbendazole and didn't do well at all. There are others on his and Jane McLelland's Facebook sites who did very well.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 11:04:10 AM MDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
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Re: Weight loss but maintain the fatty tummy???
Hi there, I was diagnosed in September with stage 1B BC. Had surgery in December, radiation and next is Letrozole. My weight started at 130. With combination of severe anxiety, surgery, and diet, I lost a total of 16 pounds. I'm in a better place anxiety wise, eating well, meditation, and exercising when I can. I dropped all sugar, white carbs, dairy and red meats. I started Budwig in November but have not gained a single pound back in spite of my appetite returning to normal. I'm guessing that the cleaner diet and exercise is keeping me at 114 but I feel great. Still learning nutrition, but I'm going to continue the FOCC indefinitely. The only other food supplement I'm taking is Biosuperfood F3 microalgae, which is high in astaxanthin. I'll include the link in case you want to look into it.
Blessings to you and your mom. Leticia?
I hope this group can shed some light on this.
My mom used to be chubby and now she is at 114 but her tummy is still quite "chubby". I give her essential oil massage and the tummy is not hard like a pregnant person. She said that when people get old no matter how much weight they lost, their tummies stay the same.
Her appetite is still iffy and eating like a toddler now (improvement from December/January when she was literally eating like a bird). She would not allow me to weigh her but I feel that she is losing weight.
I took notes of what she ate the last few days and noticed they hover around 1800 calories only.
So I would think the weigh loss is due to low caloric intake, right? The tummy being the same size is her age?
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Hello Malcolm, My husband uses Budwig diet everyday, takes? prostate perform- new roots- and lately he takes Moducare. PSA is below 5 and free PSA normal range. Used to be much higher. I hope you get better results. Regards, S.
On Tue., Apr. 12, 2022 at 2:56 p.m., Malcolm <info@...> wrote: Thank you Julie. My depression has much improved in the last few weeks. It may be due to the BP being started 6-7 weeks ago, with the anti-depressant Citalopram being started about the same time, so cannot be sure which helped. TBH, I don’t really care as long as can get back to some normality. I plan to try getting weaned off the drug after a year or so but doubt I will drop the BP diet (going back to unhealthy foods/drinks) so I will then see if the diet does contribute to a healthy mental state. After my next blood test, I am very hopeful that my PSA level has continued to fall, thus proving the diet’s effectiveness. Best wishes. Malcolm You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#146638) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic
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Julie, I don’t have cancer, but I weigh about 108 pounds, am not slim, and eat around 1500 calories a day.? Also, I’m 81, so fairly old. ?I still like food, but don’t have the appetite I did when I was younger. ? Linda ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Julie Ma via groups.io Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 7:51 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Weight loss but maintain the fatty tummy??? ? I hope this group can shed some light on this.
My mom used to be chubby and now she is at 114 but her tummy is still quite "chubby". I give her essential oil massage and the tummy is not hard like a pregnant person. She said that when people get old no matter how much weight they lost, their tummies stay the same.
Her appetite is still iffy and eating like a toddler now (improvement from December/January when she was literally eating like a bird). She would not allow me to weigh her but I feel that she is losing weight.
I took notes of what she ate the last few days and noticed they hover around 1800 calories only.
So I would think the weigh loss is due to low caloric intake, right? The tummy being the same size is her age?
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Weight loss but maintain the fatty tummy???
I hope this group can shed some light on this.
My mom used to be chubby and now she is at 114 but her tummy is still quite "chubby". I give her essential oil massage and the tummy is not hard like a pregnant person. She said that when people get old no matter how much weight they lost, their tummies stay the same.
Her appetite is still iffy and eating like a toddler now (improvement from December/January when she was literally eating like a bird). She would not allow me to weigh her but I feel that she is losing weight.
I took notes of what she ate the last few days and noticed they hover around 1800 calories only.
So I would think the weigh loss is due to low caloric intake, right? The tummy being the same size is her age?
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Shalom Tom, thanks, and my apologies to Zaharia - I will make sure to pay attention to her advice. I am new to that fb page, and have not yet noticed reference to the Budwig Protocol. Wonderful if they recommend both protocols together.
Rahel
Jerusalem
Zaharia sits is a naturopath on the Fembendazole Facebook page & she is extremely knowledgeable on the subject having helped many people back to health sometimes incorporating the Budwig mix into her protocols along with the Fembendazole. ? Shalom, There have been some interesting discussions, here, about??as an alternative treatment for cancer.
Here, on the Budwig Forum, I suggest that it is important to mention the possible connection between the Budwig Protocol and Treatment by??.???is a drug given to patients suffering from parasites.? This drug interferes with glucose transport into the cells.? Without glucose, the parasites die.? As we know, without glucose, cancer cells cannot survive.? Thus, taking??causes both parasites and cancer cells to die from lack of nutrition.??
Cancer cells have membranes that are rich in omega-6 oils, causing easy transport of glucose, and not allowing oxygen transport into the cell.? The result of following the Budwig Protocol is that cancer cells cannot reproduce because there is not enough omega-6 oil to build the cancer cell membrane.? Normal, healthy cells, that?burn oxygen, have membranes that are rich in omega-3.? That is the reason that the BP is based on flaxseed oil, in which the ratio of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils is 1::4 (unlike corn oil, for example, in which the ration of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils?is about 46::1).? Thus, a protocol based on?Fenbendazole might successfully reduce the cancer cell population, but would not offer the building blocks for continued health. Moreover, the die-off from rapidly?degraded cancer cells can be difficult for the body to process:? sometimes faster is not always better.
Here, we know that the BP will lead to health.??
I can imagine that?Fenbendazole might offer a quick fix.? I do not imagine that it will bring one to good health.? It is possible that a combination of these two protocols, a?Fenbendazole Protocol and prolonged use of the Budwig Protocol, might be an answer.
There is a Facebook group called "".? I find the group posts a bit difficult, because, I believe, the moderators are simply not knowledgeable?enough to guide the discussions.? Nevertheless, there is interesting information.? It is important to note that some of the members of that group have mentioned research papers about the possible dangers of high doses of?Fenbendazole, and of following instructions found on social media, rather than on a more serious forum, like this one.??
There is a lot about?Fenbendazole that is NOT yet known. Be careful.
with good wishes, Rahel Jerusalem
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Rahel,
You are falling into the trap of thinking all omega-6s are bad!? They are crucial in the oxygen transport in the mitochondria--not omega-3. If you study Budwig's works, she is equally bullish on the omega-6, linoleic acid along with the omega-3, linolenic acid! In fact they both work synergistically. The bad omega-6s are the ones processed by the food industry to lengthen storage life. They are the ones that are hydrogenated by industry and they will NOT easily allow for oxygen transport once incorporated into the mitochondrial membrane.
I would like to also stress here that there is a very
good reason why the inner membrane of the Mitochondria has very little
of the triple bond Omega-3 Linolenic acid in it as compared to the
double-bonded Omega-6 Linoleic acid. From reading much of Dr. Budwig's
writings, she seemed to think the triple bond of Linolenic acid was even
more important in oxygen uptake than the double-bonded Linoleic acid,
though she knew both were extremely important. This is really quite
wrong! If you study biology, you know that the Goldilocks Principle is
very evident throughout. There are certain conditions that are most
hospitable for life. Too much of something or too little of something
will have disastrous effects on a healthy organism. This principle
applies to the PUFAs as well. The more complex the bonds of the PUFAs,
the more reactive they are to oxygen and the more likely they oxidize
becoming rancid. The Omega-6 Linoleic acid with its two double-bonds has
just enough attraction for oxygen where its electrons can latch onto
oxygen in the mitochondria's inner-membrane and act as a reversible
carrier. The omega-3, triple-bonded Linolenic acid would prove too
reactive for this task as would even the higher 5 & 6 double-bonds
seen in fish oil's EPA and DHA which is why we see neither in any
substantial volumes in the mitochondria!? In commercial retail, fish oil
and flax oil are a lot more likely to go rancid than the Omega-6
Linoleic acid oils. Same is true in the mitochondria. Just the right
oxygen reactivity is all important with this task of carrying oxygen
from outside the mitochondria membrane to the inner structure where it
can produce ATP. If the Omega-3 Linolenic acid was the prime PUFA in the
mitochondria, it would be more likely to suffer rancidity on contact
with oxygen resulting in no reversible qualities which are so needed for
oxygen uptake and diffusion. There would be irreversibly
auto-oxidization when reversibility is a must.
Chem Phys Lipids. 2015 Apr;187:50-5. doi: 10.1016/j.chemphyslip.2015.02.004. Epub 2015 Feb 26.
Cardiolipin linoleic acid content and mitochondrial cytochrome c oxidase activity are associated in rat skeletal muscle.
Abstract
Cardiolipin (CL) is an inner-mitochondrial membrane phospholipid that is
important for optimal mitochondrial function. Specifically, Cardiolipin
and the Cardiolipin's linoleic content
are known to be positively associated with cytochrome c oxidase (COX)
activity. However, this association has not been examined in skeletal
muscle. In this study, rats were fed high-fat diets with a naturally
occurring gradient in linoleic acid:? coconut oil? 5.8%; flaxseed oil
13.2%; safflower oil 75.1%) in an attempt to alter both mitochondrial
Cardiolipin linoleic composition and COX activity in rat mixed hind-limb
muscle. In general, mitochondrial membrane lipid composition was fairly
resistant to dietary treatments as only modest changes in fatty acid
composition were detected in Cardiolipin and other major mitochondrial
phospholipids. As a result of this resistance, Cardiolipin content was
not different between the dietary groups. Consistent with the lack of
changes in Cardiolipin content, mitochondrial activity was also not
different between the dietary groups. However, correlational analysis
using data obtained from rats across the dietary groups showed a
significant relationship. suggesting that Cardiolipin content may
positively influence mitochondrial activity thereby making this lipid
molecule a potential factor related to mitochondrial health and function
in skeletal muscle.
doug
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 11:14 AM Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus= [email protected]> wrote:
I don't want to paste the whole article, but here is an excerpt from the FAQ's on BP from HCN site
“There really is no good substitute for dairy products in the Budwig Diet. ... the flaxoil/cottage cheese mixture changes the two components into a different food which is easier to tolerate. (As one person reports: ‘For many years I have been unable to tolerate dairy but have no problem with flaxoil/cottage cheese’). I guess we should believe Dr. Budwig when she says that she has never had a patient who couldn't tolerate quark (cottage cheese) as part of her Oil-Protein Diet.”
I would suggest to bookmark the whole FAQ page there as it answers many of the questions asked here.
Best wishes, Rod in MN/USA
I have a question for all. In a book by Dr. Greger, he says, " Researchers found that cow's milk stimulated the growth of human prostate cancer cells in each of fourteen separate experiments, producing an average increase in cancer growth rate of more than 30%. In contrast, almond milk suppressed the growth of cancer cells by more than 30%.? I'm wondering if there could be a better substance to use with the flaxseed oil other than cottage cheese or quark with the Budwig protocol that would be non-dairy??? ? ?On the use of Fenbendazole if it prevents the uptake of glucose into cancer cells, wouldn't it also prevent the uptake of glucose into healthy cells too, and cause weakness or fatigue? Thanks, Duane
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 10:21:00 PM MDT, Rahel Warshaw-Dadon < joy.forward@...> wrote:
Shalom, There have been some interesting discussions, here, about??as an alternative treatment for cancer.
Here, on the Budwig Forum, I suggest that it is important to mention the possible connection between the Budwig Protocol and Treatment by??.???is a drug given to patients suffering from parasites.? This drug interferes with glucose transport into the cells.? Without glucose, the parasites die.? As we know, without glucose, cancer cells cannot survive.? Thus, taking??causes both parasites and cancer cells to die from lack of nutrition.??
Cancer cells have membranes that are rich in omega-6 oils, causing easy transport of glucose, and not allowing oxygen transport into the cell.? The result of following the Budwig Protocol is that cancer cells cannot reproduce because there is not enough omega-6 oil to build the cancer cell membrane.? Normal, healthy cells, that?burn oxygen, have membranes that are rich in omega-3.? That is the reason that the BP is based on flaxseed oil, in which the ratio of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils is 1::4 (unlike corn oil, for example, in which the ration of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils?is about 46::1).? Thus, a protocol based on?Fenbendazole might successfully reduce the cancer cell population, but would not offer the building blocks for continued health. Moreover, the die-off from rapidly?degraded cancer cells can be difficult for the body to process:? sometimes faster is not always better.
Here, we know that the BP will lead to health.??
I can imagine that?Fenbendazole might offer a quick fix.? I do not imagine that it will bring one to good health.? It is possible that a combination of these two protocols, a?Fenbendazole Protocol and prolonged use of the Budwig Protocol, might be an answer.
There is a Facebook group called "".? I find the group posts a bit difficult, because, I believe, the moderators are simply not knowledgeable?enough to guide the discussions.? Nevertheless, there is interesting information.? It is important to note that some of the members of that group have mentioned research papers about the possible dangers of high doses of?Fenbendazole, and of following instructions found on social media, rather than on a more serious forum, like this one.??
There is a lot about?Fenbendazole that is NOT yet known. Be careful.
with good wishes, Rahel Jerusalem
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I don't want to paste the whole article, but here is an excerpt from the FAQ's on BP from HCN site
http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/budwig-diet-vegan-alternatives.html
“There really is no good substitute for dairy products in the Budwig Diet. ... the flaxoil/cottage cheese mixture changes the two components into a different food which is easier to tolerate. (As one person reports: ‘For many years I have been unable to tolerate dairy but have no problem with flaxoil/cottage cheese’). I guess we should believe Dr. Budwig when she says that she has never had a patient who couldn't tolerate quark (cottage cheese) as part of her Oil-Protein Diet.”
I would suggest to bookmark the whole FAQ page there as it answers many of the questions asked here.
Best wishes, Rod in MN/USA
On Thursday, April 14, 2022, 10:22:20 AM CDT, donegoing2002@... via groups.io <donegoing2002@...> wrote:
I have a question for all. In a book by Dr. Greger, he says, " Researchers found that cow's milk stimulated the growth of human prostate cancer cells in each of fourteen separate experiments, producing an average increase in cancer growth rate of more than 30%. In contrast, almond milk suppressed the growth of cancer cells by more than 30%.? I'm wondering if there could be a better substance to use with the flaxseed oil other than cottage cheese or quark with the Budwig protocol that would be non-dairy??? ? ?On the use of Fenbendazole if it prevents the uptake of glucose into cancer cells, wouldn't it also prevent the uptake of glucose into healthy cells too, and cause weakness or fatigue? Thanks, Duane
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 10:21:00 PM MDT, Rahel Warshaw-Dadon <joy.forward@...> wrote:
Shalom, There have been some interesting discussions, here, about??as an alternative treatment for cancer.
Here, on the Budwig Forum, I suggest that it is important to mention the possible connection between the Budwig Protocol and Treatment by??.???is a drug given to patients suffering from parasites.? This drug interferes with glucose transport into the cells.? Without glucose, the parasites die.? As we know, without glucose, cancer cells cannot survive.? Thus, taking??causes both parasites and cancer cells to die from lack of nutrition.??
Cancer cells have membranes that are rich in omega-6 oils, causing easy transport of glucose, and not allowing oxygen transport into the cell.? The result of following the Budwig Protocol is that cancer cells cannot reproduce because there is not enough omega-6 oil to build the cancer cell membrane.? Normal, healthy cells, that?burn oxygen, have membranes that are rich in omega-3.? That is the reason that the BP is based on flaxseed oil, in which the ratio of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils is 1::4 (unlike corn oil, for example, in which the ration of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils?is about 46::1).? Thus, a protocol based on?Fenbendazole might successfully reduce the cancer cell population, but would not offer the building blocks for continued health. Moreover, the die-off from rapidly?degraded cancer cells can be difficult for the body to process:? sometimes faster is not always better.
Here, we know that the BP will lead to health.??
I can imagine that?Fenbendazole might offer a quick fix.? I do not imagine that it will bring one to good health.? It is possible that a combination of these two protocols, a?Fenbendazole Protocol and prolonged use of the Budwig Protocol, might be an answer.
There is a Facebook group called "".? I find the group posts a bit difficult, because, I believe, the moderators are simply not knowledgeable?enough to guide the discussions.? Nevertheless, there is interesting information.? It is important to note that some of the members of that group have mentioned research papers about the possible dangers of high doses of?Fenbendazole, and of following instructions found on social media, rather than on a more serious forum, like this one.??
There is a lot about?Fenbendazole that is NOT yet known. Be careful.
with good wishes, Rahel Jerusalem
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I have a question for all. In a book by Dr. Greger, he says, " Researchers found that cow's milk stimulated the growth of human prostate cancer cells in each of fourteen separate experiments, producing an average increase in cancer growth rate of more than 30%. In contrast, almond milk suppressed the growth of cancer cells by more than 30%.? I'm wondering if there could be a better substance to use with the flaxseed oil other than cottage cheese or quark with the Budwig protocol that would be non-dairy??? ? ?On the use of Fenbendazole if it prevents the uptake of glucose into cancer cells, wouldn't it also prevent the uptake of glucose into healthy cells too, and cause weakness or fatigue? Thanks, Duane
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 10:21:00 PM MDT, Rahel Warshaw-Dadon <joy.forward@...> wrote:
Shalom, There have been some interesting discussions, here, about??as an alternative treatment for cancer.
Here, on the Budwig Forum, I suggest that it is important to mention the possible connection between the Budwig Protocol and Treatment by??.???is a drug given to patients suffering from parasites.? This drug interferes with glucose transport into the cells.? Without glucose, the parasites die.? As we know, without glucose, cancer cells cannot survive.? Thus, taking??causes both parasites and cancer cells to die from lack of nutrition.??
Cancer cells have membranes that are rich in omega-6 oils, causing easy transport of glucose, and not allowing oxygen transport into the cell.? The result of following the Budwig Protocol is that cancer cells cannot reproduce because there is not enough omega-6 oil to build the cancer cell membrane.? Normal, healthy cells, that?burn oxygen, have membranes that are rich in omega-3.? That is the reason that the BP is based on flaxseed oil, in which the ratio of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils is 1::4 (unlike corn oil, for example, in which the ration of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils?is about 46::1).? Thus, a protocol based on?Fenbendazole might successfully reduce the cancer cell population, but would not offer the building blocks for continued health. Moreover, the die-off from rapidly?degraded cancer cells can be difficult for the body to process:? sometimes faster is not always better.
Here, we know that the BP will lead to health.??
I can imagine that?Fenbendazole might offer a quick fix.? I do not imagine that it will bring one to good health.? It is possible that a combination of these two protocols, a?Fenbendazole Protocol and prolonged use of the Budwig Protocol, might be an answer.
There is a Facebook group called "".? I find the group posts a bit difficult, because, I believe, the moderators are simply not knowledgeable?enough to guide the discussions.? Nevertheless, there is interesting information.? It is important to note that some of the members of that group have mentioned research papers about the possible dangers of high doses of?Fenbendazole, and of following instructions found on social media, rather than on a more serious forum, like this one.??
There is a lot about?Fenbendazole that is NOT yet known. Be careful.
with good wishes, Rahel Jerusalem
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Re: Fw: cancer alternative
Good morning, Rahel. I did hold true to that, but for Sunday, which was my funday. I would eat raw cruciferous every other night and steamed veggies over brown rice or quinoa bathed in oleolux on the other nights. On Sunday I would eat what I wanted. Sunday evening meal was often at my daughter's house so I ate what they had on the table. I would even crack a few beers. Some might say I was spoiling all the good I did the rest of the week, but I will say that I couldn't have done all that good without that carrot on a stick motivating me. I was severely depressed after about the 9 month mark following the protocol to a T and knew I couldn't continue that way. As I said, I am still alive. And I am happy. October of 2015 is long in the rear view for me.
All of the things I have tried and experimented with over the last 6-1/2 years would fill a small book. I will have to try and write it down and attach it to a message when I get the chance.
All the best, Rod in MN/USA
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 04:57:41 PM CDT, Rahel Warshaw-Dadon <joy.forward@...> wrote:
Shalom Rod! I enjoy your comments. "I am now nearly 6-1/2 years since discovery of stage 4 lung cancer and I feel great." This?is wonderful, encouraging?news! You add: "Budwig was going to have to coexist with the occasional taco, slice of pizza, etc." Should we understand that other than a few slices of pizza and some tacos, you continue to avoid all of the "forbidden foods" on the Budwig list??? no meat, no fish, no chicken, no eggs, none of the "wrong oils", no sugar......
I suppose that if the pizza and the tacos are restaurant prepared, there is no avoiding some sugar (it is in everything) and some of the wrong oils.? But they would be minimal.
Though I, personally, have never had cancer, I do avoid all those things, and I do, occasionally, indulge in a slice of pizza (and more likely falafel?than tacos in the Middle East!).
What is your personal protocol, now that you are looking forward to many more years of cancer free health?
thanks, Rahel Jerusalem
I agree that Budwig is the reason I am alive. But, I have always been on the lookout for something that can clean up the little bit that remains due to my improper diet. It took about 9 months for all of my symptoms to disappear, and although I was physically healthy I was miserable. I followed the regimen to the letter for that time. I just can't live with the diet for the rest of my life so I compromise. Budwig was going to have to coexist with the occasional taco, slice of pizza, etc. I am now nearly 6-1/2 years since discovery of stage 4 lung cancer and I feel great.
Rod in MN/USA
On Wednesday, April 13, 2022, 09:19:15 AM CDT, Tom via <thomas.carroll20= [email protected]> wrote:
Joe tippens was quite lucky with the Fembendazole I believe though because most people need to take a daily dose closer to 2000mg to get results from what I can see on the Fembendazole group anyway, personally my base cancer fighting protocol wether I liked it or not would be Budwig & then if I was not having the best results I would add to it with other things be it Fembendazole, ValAsta etc but I trust the science behind Johanna Budwig & for me that is what counts. ? Keytruda was the trial that Joe was in. I know people who used it without the Fenbendazole and didn't do well at all. There are others on his and Jane McLelland's Facebook sites who did very well.
On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 11:04:10 AM MDT, Rod Holmgren via <s4sindus= [email protected]> wrote:
Well, lung cancer is what I have been dealing with. I did start having stomach pain toward the end of my stint with the protocol. Those pains went away shortly after I stopped the fenben. I am having far better results with artemisia annua in addition to the BP. If I could commit to the diet restrictions, plant based and no flour etc, I would be all clear I am sure. I do eat raw every other day, but when I cook food I eat things I am not supposed to. But life is more than just being alive and I was miserable when I was eating only plant based diet so I decided to find a compromise and if I have to eat FO/CC every morning for the rest of my life sobeit. I tried the fenben protocol because TIppins stated he didn't change his diet and still beat cancer, but he was also in an imunotherapy study when he did it so there is that.
Rod in MN/USA
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Zaharia sits is a naturopath on the Fembendazole Facebook page & she is extremely knowledgeable on the subject having helped many people back to health sometimes incorporating the Budwig mix into her protocols along with the Fembendazole.
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On 14 Apr 2022, at 05:21, Rahel Warshaw-Dadon <joy.forward@...> wrote:
? Shalom, There have been some interesting discussions, here, about??as an alternative treatment for cancer.
Here, on the Budwig Forum, I suggest that it is important to mention the possible connection between the Budwig Protocol and Treatment by??.???is a drug given to patients suffering from parasites.? This drug interferes with glucose transport into the cells.? Without glucose, the parasites die.? As we know, without glucose, cancer cells cannot survive.? Thus, taking??causes both parasites and cancer cells to die from lack of nutrition.??
Cancer cells have membranes that are rich in omega-6 oils, causing easy transport of glucose, and not allowing oxygen transport into the cell.? The result of following the Budwig Protocol is that cancer cells cannot reproduce because there is not enough omega-6 oil to build the cancer cell membrane.? Normal, healthy cells, that?burn oxygen, have membranes that are rich in omega-3.? That is the reason that the BP is based on flaxseed oil, in which the ratio of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils is 1::4 (unlike corn oil, for example, in which the ration of omega-6 oils to omega-3 oils?is about 46::1).? Thus, a protocol based on?Fenbendazole might successfully reduce the cancer cell population, but would not offer the building blocks for continued health. Moreover, the die-off from rapidly?degraded cancer cells can be difficult for the body to process:? sometimes faster is not always better.
Here, we know that the BP will lead to health.??
I can imagine that?Fenbendazole might offer a quick fix.? I do not imagine that it will bring one to good health.? It is possible that a combination of these two protocols, a?Fenbendazole Protocol and prolonged use of the Budwig Protocol, might be an answer.
There is a Facebook group called "".? I find the group posts a bit difficult, because, I believe, the moderators are simply not knowledgeable?enough to guide the discussions.? Nevertheless, there is interesting information.? It is important to note that some of the members of that group have mentioned research papers about the possible dangers of high doses of?Fenbendazole, and of following instructions found on social media, rather than on a more serious forum, like this one.??
There is a lot about?Fenbendazole that is NOT yet known. Be careful.
with good wishes, Rahel Jerusalem
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