Hi Ivanka:

Bless you for responding. My mom has dry cough and her voice is still a bit constricted at times.?

Yes, I was secretly hoping that it was a "detox" or the cancer on her pleural lining was dying causing her that frequent dry cough to expel any dead particle. I have elderberry cough drops at the house? but I have been giving her throat calm tea. She claims that the cough was more like a tickle when she talks, she tends to cough.

Yes, her appetite is better and I am hoping that eventually she will be able to eat a bit more each meal.

I am just very sadden to see her being this skinny.

Thank you again for your kind words and I will definitely look at the site to check out the mushroom elderberry.

On Sunday, March 20, 2022, 07:56:07 PM CDT, Vania <ivanjelina@...> wrote:

Hi Julie,

Is anything coming out when she coughs? Mucous or any liquid? That can be a sign of detox, which is good news. I’ve also heard of people starting to cough more and more and literally coughing out the tumor. You never know...there could be many reasons. There’s an amazing syrup I tried recently which contains the medicinal anti-cancer mushrooms -?Host Defense, Elderberry Plus Syrup, Superfood Immune Support with Mushroom Mycelium and Elderberries ?

I’ve used it multiple times, also in January when I had severe Covid and it was really helpful. I’d try either that, if I were you, or the ‘Breathe’ formula by the same company (a pure mushroom blend for the lungs). ?

I remember you saying that her appetite has increased a little? I think you should double the FOCC amount, what you give now should be just for breakfast and then another portion in the afternoon. Some people even take 2x3 tbsp of flax oil, total 6 a day. Perhaps you could slowly get there, step by step. But for now I’d double it if I were you.?

All the best,?

- Ivanka?

On Saturday, March 19, 2022, Julie Ma via <julientexas=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Update on my mom:

She had a thoracentesis a month ago and yesterday the X ray showed a moderate amount of fluid (less than large) and was noted that there was less in her pleural space on the left side. The better news is that her left lung expanded (which it did not seem to do so in the last 2 thoracentesis that was done back to back on 11/1 and 11/4).

While she is now very thin (barely 115lbs) her pulmonary doctor also remarked that she kept her weight steady. Which is encouraging.

I believe the protocol is taking hold and remain optimistic.? Along with her Chi Kong exercise, it helps to improve her lungs. She is now eating about 4 TBsp of FOCC (2TB oil) twice a day now.

But I noticed she is sounding raspy and coughing more (it's a dry cough). I am wondering if the apoptosis is causing the dry cough?? she did not cough much in the prior months but it is more frequent nowadays.

Any input/thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Update on my mom:

She had a thoracentesis a month ago and yesterday the X ray showed a moderate amount of fluid (less than large) and was noted that there was less in her pleural space on the left side. The better news is that her left lung expanded (which it did not seem to do so in the last 2 thoracentesis that was done back to back on 11/1 and 11/4).

While she is now very thin (barely 115lbs) her pulmonary doctor also remarked that she kept her weight steady. Which is encouraging.

I believe the protocol is taking hold and remain optimistic.? Along with her Chi Kong exercise, it helps to improve her lungs. She is now eating about 4 TBsp of FOCC (2TB oil) twice a day now.

But I noticed she is sounding raspy and coughing more (it's a dry cough). I am wondering if the apoptosis is causing the dry cough?? she did not cough much in the prior months but it is more frequent nowadays.

Any input/thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Update on my mom:

She had a thoracentesis a month ago and yesterday the X ray showed a moderate amount of fluid (less than large) and was noted that there was less in her pleural space on the left side. The better news is that her left lung expanded (which it did not seem to do so in the last 2 thoracentesis that was done back to back on 11/1 and 11/4).

While she is now very thin (barely 115lbs) her pulmonary doctor also remarked that she kept her weight steady. Which is encouraging.

I believe the protocol is taking hold and remain optimistic.? Along with her Chi Kong exercise, it helps to improve her lungs. She is now eating about 4 TBsp of FOCC (2TB oil) twice a day now.

But I noticed she is sounding raspy and coughing more (it's a dry cough). I am wondering if the apoptosis is causing the dry cough?? she did not cough much in the prior months but it is more frequent nowadays.

Any input/thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

On Mar 18, 2022, at 2:36 PM, ashley weaver via groups.io <ashley_weaver5@...> wrote:

?Mary Grace, I hope you don't mind me asking, what kind of lymphoma you had. And if you battled it from the start with the budwig diet.

I am dealing with follicular lymphoma.

Thank you!

Ashley~

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 12:39 PM, Rahel Warshaw-Dadon

<joy.forward@...> wrote:

Ooops, 2 grams (not 3 grams).? sorry

Rahel

Jerusalem

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 5:10 PM Rahel Warshaw-Dadon via <joy.forward=[email protected]> wrote:

Mary Grace?
You wrote "D3 2000mg" that meanest?3 GRAMS (a lot).??

Perhaps you mean 2,000 international units (iu) ?

Do you take Curcumin powder, perhaps in capsules?
I believe?that it would be much more effective to take GOLDEN PASTE that you can make yourself from Turmeric powder,?water, good quality oil, and freshly ground black pepper.??

I can send you instructions, if you wish.

warmly,

Rahel

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:59 AM Grace Almleaf <galmleaf@...> wrote:

Dear Malcolm,

I don’t post often, I am 12 years out from a terminal prognosis of lymphoma. I find that the fewer supplements the better, as this protocol is so nutrient dense! I do take D3 2000mg daily as well as a elderberry and zinc chewable. That’s it and my recent blood work show I am doing so well on all markers. Don’t get overwhelmed, just eat right, get some sun and Vita D3 if needed, and reduce stress. Pray if you are so inclined with gratitude ?? Sending blessings your way.

Mary Grace

Sent from Grace’s iPhone ?

On Mar 6, 2022, at 8:45 PM, JoAnne Shott <doebucky@...> wrote:

? Malcolm,

I can only?say?what I have done to fight stage 4 Cervical cancer. I took Dr. Budwig’s caution about supplements seriously and stay away from them. I take?only Vitamin D3, Zinc,?calcium, and?Curcumin.? Not only does she state some may interfere with the protocol, but my understanding is that most supplements are not regulated so I wonder can we really trust their contents?

I firmly believe the healthy diet we follow with Budwig boosts our immune system as needed.

Regards,

Doebucky?

On Sunday, March 6, 2022, 8:29 PM, Malcolm <info@...> wrote:

Hello Again. I wonder if there is anyone who might please help with a dilemma I have? In Bill Henderson's book "Cancer-free...Healing", he covers the importance of your immune system needing to be "in cancer-fighting shape". As such, he strongly recommends certain supplements being as "essential" for that. On that basis, I bought 60 - 500mg Beta-1,3D Glucan tablets (he says are far superior to other makes) and I started taking the recommended 3 tablets/day (for my 150 pounds weight) 30 mins before eating breakfast. That will cost about ?105/mth (US$140) until I reduce. Not cheap, along with all the other increased costs. Have just ordered more, not to run out, so will probably continue until my next PSA test in 3 months.

Yet, in File No. 5, it states "Dr. Budwig did not include drugs or supplements in her protocol guidelines. In her 1999 book, she spoke against them. She warned that high amounts of man-made supplemental antioxidants can interfere with the diet's benefits - and a note there to ask this group? Any other's thoughts on this is appreciated but I realise it can probably only come down to making a personal decision myself. The cost is secondary at this stage, one problem being I cannot take Ibuprofen or Tylenol with them (so my sleep suffers with other pains) and being SO big, struggling to swallow. I think I also need large Vitamin D3 doses (and K2 because of that) but would struggle with the initial 25.000 I.U. (then 10,000 later) that he recommends. I might half that. I don't know Dr Budwigs views on that yet and it is hard to know how much to deviate from the protocol. Any suggestions please?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 12:39 PM, Rahel Warshaw-Dadon

<joy.forward@...> wrote:

Ooops, 2 grams (not 3 grams).? sorry

Rahel

Jerusalem

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 5:10 PM Rahel Warshaw-Dadon via <joy.forward=[email protected]> wrote:

Mary Grace?
You wrote "D3 2000mg" that meanest?3 GRAMS (a lot).??

Perhaps you mean 2,000 international units (iu) ?

Do you take Curcumin powder, perhaps in capsules?
I believe?that it would be much more effective to take GOLDEN PASTE that you can make yourself from Turmeric powder,?water, good quality oil, and freshly ground black pepper.??

I can send you instructions, if you wish.

warmly,

Rahel

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:59 AM Grace Almleaf <galmleaf@...> wrote:

Dear Malcolm,

I don’t post often, I am 12 years out from a terminal prognosis of lymphoma. I find that the fewer supplements the better, as this protocol is so nutrient dense! I do take D3 2000mg daily as well as a elderberry and zinc chewable. That’s it and my recent blood work show I am doing so well on all markers. Don’t get overwhelmed, just eat right, get some sun and Vita D3 if needed, and reduce stress. Pray if you are so inclined with gratitude ?? Sending blessings your way.

Mary Grace

Sent from Grace’s iPhone ?

On Mar 6, 2022, at 8:45 PM, JoAnne Shott <doebucky@...> wrote:

? Malcolm,

I can only?say?what I have done to fight stage 4 Cervical cancer. I took Dr. Budwig’s caution about supplements seriously and stay away from them. I take?only Vitamin D3, Zinc,?calcium, and?Curcumin.? Not only does she state some may interfere with the protocol, but my understanding is that most supplements are not regulated so I wonder can we really trust their contents?

I firmly believe the healthy diet we follow with Budwig boosts our immune system as needed.

Regards,

Doebucky?

On Sunday, March 6, 2022, 8:29 PM, Malcolm <info@...> wrote:

Hello Again. I wonder if there is anyone who might please help with a dilemma I have? In Bill Henderson's book "Cancer-free...Healing", he covers the importance of your immune system needing to be "in cancer-fighting shape". As such, he strongly recommends certain supplements being as "essential" for that. On that basis, I bought 60 - 500mg Beta-1,3D Glucan tablets (he says are far superior to other makes) and I started taking the recommended 3 tablets/day (for my 150 pounds weight) 30 mins before eating breakfast. That will cost about ?105/mth (US$140) until I reduce. Not cheap, along with all the other increased costs. Have just ordered more, not to run out, so will probably continue until my next PSA test in 3 months.

Yet, in File No. 5, it states "Dr. Budwig did not include drugs or supplements in her protocol guidelines. In her 1999 book, she spoke against them. She warned that high amounts of man-made supplemental antioxidants can interfere with the diet's benefits - and a note there to ask this group? Any other's thoughts on this is appreciated but I realise it can probably only come down to making a personal decision myself. The cost is secondary at this stage, one problem being I cannot take Ibuprofen or Tylenol with them (so my sleep suffers with other pains) and being SO big, struggling to swallow. I think I also need large Vitamin D3 doses (and K2 because of that) but would struggle with the initial 25.000 I.U. (then 10,000 later) that he recommends. I might half that. I don't know Dr Budwigs views on that yet and it is hard to know how much to deviate from the protocol. Any suggestions please?

Mary Grace?
You wrote "D3 2000mg" that meanest?3 GRAMS (a lot).??

Perhaps you mean 2,000 international units (iu) ?

Do you take Curcumin powder, perhaps in capsules?
I believe?that it would be much more effective to take GOLDEN PASTE that you can make yourself from Turmeric powder,?water, good quality oil, and freshly ground black pepper.??

I can send you instructions, if you wish.

warmly,

Rahel

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:59 AM Grace Almleaf <galmleaf@...> wrote:

Dear Malcolm,

I don’t post often, I am 12 years out from a terminal prognosis of lymphoma. I find that the fewer supplements the better, as this protocol is so nutrient dense! I do take D3 2000mg daily as well as a elderberry and zinc chewable. That’s it and my recent blood work show I am doing so well on all markers. Don’t get overwhelmed, just eat right, get some sun and Vita D3 if needed, and reduce stress. Pray if you are so inclined with gratitude ?? Sending blessings your way.

Mary Grace

Sent from Grace’s iPhone ?

On Mar 6, 2022, at 8:45 PM, JoAnne Shott <doebucky@...> wrote:

? Malcolm,

I can only?say?what I have done to fight stage 4 Cervical cancer. I took Dr. Budwig’s caution about supplements seriously and stay away from them. I take?only Vitamin D3, Zinc,?calcium, and?Curcumin.? Not only does she state some may interfere with the protocol, but my understanding is that most supplements are not regulated so I wonder can we really trust their contents?

I firmly believe the healthy diet we follow with Budwig boosts our immune system as needed.

Regards,

Doebucky?

On Sunday, March 6, 2022, 8:29 PM, Malcolm <info@...> wrote:

Hello Again. I wonder if there is anyone who might please help with a dilemma I have? In Bill Henderson's book "Cancer-free...Healing", he covers the importance of your immune system needing to be "in cancer-fighting shape". As such, he strongly recommends certain supplements being as "essential" for that. On that basis, I bought 60 - 500mg Beta-1,3D Glucan tablets (he says are far superior to other makes) and I started taking the recommended 3 tablets/day (for my 150 pounds weight) 30 mins before eating breakfast. That will cost about ?105/mth (US$140) until I reduce. Not cheap, along with all the other increased costs. Have just ordered more, not to run out, so will probably continue until my next PSA test in 3 months.

Yet, in File No. 5, it states "Dr. Budwig did not include drugs or supplements in her protocol guidelines. In her 1999 book, she spoke against them. She warned that high amounts of man-made supplemental antioxidants can interfere with the diet's benefits - and a note there to ask this group? Any other's thoughts on this is appreciated but I realise it can probably only come down to making a personal decision myself. The cost is secondary at this stage, one problem being I cannot take Ibuprofen or Tylenol with them (so my sleep suffers with other pains) and being SO big, struggling to swallow. I think I also need large Vitamin D3 doses (and K2 because of that) but would struggle with the initial 25.000 I.U. (then 10,000 later) that he recommends. I might half that. I don't know Dr Budwigs views on that yet and it is hard to know how much to deviate from the protocol. Any suggestions please?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 1:47 AM, Vania

<ivanjelina@...> wrote:

‘?Due to the phytic and oxalic acid levels found in non-fermented soy products, there is some concern that you may not be able to absorb as much nutrition as you might otherwise with fermented versions. The acids may prevent full absorption in the intestinal tracts of some minerals like zinc, calcium, copper, and iron. Another concern is for the goitrogens also found in fresh soy products, these can slow down the function of the thyroid. This can be a concern for people who are already having challenges with absorption of enough nutrients.’?

Also here: ?

You said you have not been giving your mom ‘either’, meaning no flax seeds? Flax seeds are a huge part of the diet. There are many many women with estrogen positive cancers who do well with having flax seeds. They are excellent cancer fighters and do wonders for fighting inflammation and improving the immune system. Take a look at the testimonials in our group, there are many positive ones. ?

On Thursday, March 17, 2022, Julie Ma via <julientexas=[email protected]> wrote:

Soy has phytoestrogen, much like flaxseed. I am just puzzled why flaxseed is beneficial but soy is not. I have not been including either in the diet for my mom.

Thanks Ivanka

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:03 PM, Vania

<ivanjelina@...> wrote:

Tofu is a big no no, not only because it’s usually GMO, but also because it interferes with hormones and is a widely recognized cancer-causing food. Any kind of soy product - tofu, soy milk, soy bean snacks or whatever- is strictly forbidden, unless it’s fermented. Keep in mind soy is hidden in many, many foods, almost everything at the grocery store contains soy lecithin as emulsifier. Always read the ingredients.?

Corn can be problem not only because of GMO, but also because it’s very high in sugar. And also difficult to digest, causing bloating and gas. Perhaps that’s why it’s a concern.?

All the best,

- Ivanka?

On Wednesday, March 16, 2022, Julie Ma via <julientexas=yahoo.com@groups. io> wrote:

I was under the impression that corn was not allowed under Budwig, that it was a GMO crop.
Also tofu being a soy product is not permitted,except fermented like soya sauce and miso.

any change to that? I would like to add tofu and corn ?to my moms dinner menu. To add variety,

she prefers Asian food so tofu would be a wonderful change.

thanks in advance.

Soy has phytoestrogen, much like flaxseed. I am just puzzled why flaxseed is beneficial but soy is not. I have not been including either in the diet for my mom.

Thanks Ivanka

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:03 PM, Vania

<ivanjelina@...> wrote:

Tofu is a big no no, not only because it’s usually GMO, but also because it interferes with hormones and is a widely recognized cancer-causing food. Any kind of soy product - tofu, soy milk, soy bean snacks or whatever- is strictly forbidden, unless it’s fermented. Keep in mind soy is hidden in many, many foods, almost everything at the grocery store contains soy lecithin as emulsifier. Always read the ingredients.?

Corn can be problem not only because of GMO, but also because it’s very high in sugar. And also difficult to digest, causing bloating and gas. Perhaps that’s why it’s a concern.?

All the best,

- Ivanka?

On Wednesday, March 16, 2022, Julie Ma via <julientexas=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I was under the impression that corn was not allowed under Budwig, that it was a GMO crop.
Also tofu being a soy product is not permitted,except fermented like soya sauce and miso.

any change to that? I would like to add tofu and corn ?to my moms dinner menu. To add variety,

she prefers Asian food so tofu would be a wonderful change.

thanks in advance.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:03 PM, Vania

<ivanjelina@...> wrote:

Tofu is a big no no, not only because it’s usually GMO, but also because it interferes with hormones and is a widely recognized cancer-causing food. Any kind of soy product - tofu, soy milk, soy bean snacks or whatever- is strictly forbidden, unless it’s fermented. Keep in mind soy is hidden in many, many foods, almost everything at the grocery store contains soy lecithin as emulsifier. Always read the ingredients.?

Corn can be problem not only because of GMO, but also because it’s very high in sugar. And also difficult to digest, causing bloating and gas. Perhaps that’s why it’s a concern.?

All the best,

- Ivanka?

On Wednesday, March 16, 2022, Julie Ma via <julientexas=[email protected]> wrote:

I was under the impression that corn was not allowed under Budwig, that it was a GMO crop.
Also tofu being a soy product is not permitted,except fermented like soya sauce and miso.

any change to that? I would like to add tofu and corn ?to my moms dinner menu. To add variety,

she prefers Asian food so tofu would be a wonderful change.

thanks in advance.

I was under the impression that corn was not allowed under Budwig, that it was a GMO crop.
Also tofu being a soy product is not permitted,except fermented like soya sauce and miso.

any change to that? I would like to add tofu and corn ?to my moms dinner menu. To add variety,

she prefers Asian food so tofu would be a wonderful change.

thanks in advance.