On 5/4/21 3:11 PM, RC wrote:
Come on - you didn't even read the article Uncleji!!
Probably because I don't care about QAnon.? Did you even read the
full Atlantic article?
Then again why would you since as a conspiritualist
you have access to some superior, secret, mystical knowledge
that we lost souls don't? Your response is a just a confirmation
that you are indeed a conspiritualist. I'm glad you are not
QAnon, Alt-right or Nazi Hippie!!
Good. Let's talk real things.? How's Python these days?? Have you
tried Nodejs?
On 5/4/21 2:29 PM, RC
wrote:
Uncle B2 - Found an article that
essentially describes you!
Not sure what you're trying to accomplish
other than turning me into a straw dog for your
benefit.? Guess I have to put you in the lost soul
column too. ?
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Come on - you didn't even read the article Uncleji!!
Then again why would you since as a conspiritualist you have access to some superior, secret, mystical knowledge that we lost souls don't? Your response is a just a confirmation that you are indeed a conspiritualist. I'm glad you are not QAnon, Alt-right or Nazi Hippie!!
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On 5/4/21 2:29 PM, RC wrote:
Uncle B2 - Found an article that
essentially describes you!
Not sure what you're trying to accomplish
other than turning me into a straw dog for your benefit.? Guess I
have to put you in the lost soul column too. ?
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On 5/4/21 2:29 PM, RC wrote:
Uncle B2 - Found an article that
essentially describes you!
Not sure what you're trying to accomplish
other than turning me into a straw dog for your benefit.? Guess I
have to put you in the lost soul column too. ?
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Uncle B2 - Found an article that essentially describes you!
QAnon’s Unexpected Roots in New Age Spirituality?- ?
You are a conspiritualist!!
"Ward and Voas defined “conspirituality” as a “politico-spiritual philosophy based on two core convictions” — one core to conspiracy theories and the other rooted in New Age belief systems: “1) a secret group covertly controls, or is trying to control, the political and social order, and 2) humanity is undergoing a ‘paradigm shift’ in consciousness. Proponents believe that the best strategy for dealing with the threat of a totalitarian ‘new world order’ is to act in accordance with an awakened ‘new paradigm’ worldview.”
Also for you
"And yet, alternative spirituality and conspiracy are, in the end, united by a narcissistic idea: that there are things in the world crying out for explanation and that you alone are unraveling the truth. As Voas puts it, “The central point is that we have, in our society, competition between trust and doubt."
May be you feel you are a Nazi Hippie?
Jules Evans, an honorary research fellow at the Center for the History of Emotions at Queen Mary University of London, has investigated the history, philosophy and psychology of well-being.
In an article for Medium called “Nazi Hippies: When the New Age and Far Right Overlap,” Evans wrote about how leading members of the Nazi party in the 1930s and ’40s were followers of alternative spirituality and medicine. “There was an idea that western culture has lost its way and we need to return to traditional sources of wisdom, whether that be Hinduism or Sufism or traditional gender roles,” Evans told me. It’s a concept that’s popular today with the alt-right. “There is an overlap,” he says, “between New Age and far-right populism in traditionalist thinking, that the West has lost its way with feminism, multiculturalism, egalitarianism, and we need a return to order.”
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On 5/4/21 1:39 PM, RC wrote:
Uncle Baron - I don't know why you are referring to the Atlantic article, the article discusses differences of opinions among liberals on?public restrictions such as??ocial distancing, outdoor/indoor masking, school re-openings, how best to re-open the economy in a safe manner etc - that's all healthy discussion
But the people mentioned in there aren't some gullible or delusional vaccine deniers, so not sure how they are anything like you or why you would use that article to compare yourself to them or promote yourself??? I think you are letting the Delusional Dames here influence your thinking.? They paint lies about me to use me as a "straw dog".? But this kind of crap has gone on for years on the FFLs.??Interesting to watch what is happening at the moment over on "The Corner" where MJ is not trusting big pharma and their vaccines. B1 has to bite his tongue on that one.? MJ is not anti-vax and neither am I but these covid vaccines are not vaccines, they are treatments and it is somewhat questionable what the largely untested nano technology is doing in them.? Time will tell.
Ravi, I'll reply anyway. I've never been a conformist.? I think for myself.? I seek out the opinions that are different from the mainstream media because ?I know?how the mainstream media operates.? For decades much of the general public took them with a grain of salt.? Funny that people who consider themselves liberal fall for the "party line". ?No, I'm not a Modi supporter.? I was hoping the Singh would have done a better job to raise all boats.? But India is a corrupt and messy country, a problem which is going to take a long time to correct if it ever is. That Atlantic article nails the problem with superficial liberals like I find here. ? On 5/4/21 1:00 PM, RC wrote:
Thank you Uncle B2 but not happy that a) you are being flippant about this topic, everyone here knows I'm in SoCal ?& b) you are peddling the same theories that contributed to this second wave, you might very well be a Modi supporter. Can you not feel the suffering of people? How can keep denying the obvious? Please don't respond with your same old arguments - have read enough.
Good to hear that your family is well.? It's just that Ann made it sound like ?you?are living in India and I knew better.? Unless they've been there TM people tend to be very naive about India.? It's not the "land of the Ved". ;-) On 5/4/21 11:34 AM, RC wrote:
Thank you Ann, Emily & Sal!
My family in India - luckily - is doing fine. I'm most concerned about my mom who's 73 and she's been fully vaccinated a few weeks back. She only had a few mild symptoms after each of the doses and she's been mostly home since last year, other than family gatherings with masked and her siblings who are also vaccinated and staying safe.
I have just heard of my sister-in-law's (brother's wife) losing a family member who was 37. Apparently a result of a heart attack from a clot after being discharged, he should have been apparently prescribed blood thinners as one of the medicine used for recovery is known to cause clots (based on what my brother told me). Also heard that my cousin's husband is sick, but recovering at home
Talking to friends from my college days here in US and family members everyone at this point knows someone who's gotten really, in ICU and/or lost a family member. It's been horrible, whatever you are hearing on the news is painfully true. The most common stories I have heard is people panic-stricken trying to find ICU beds.
India with it's structural problems with healthcare cannot handle this. Most of the top hospitals are all for-profit entities, coupled with the absence of health insurance is only for the privileged. You would need at least thousands of dollars to get quality access to healthcare. The poor, lower middle class are dying in droves and not even being recorded as COVID related.
It is horrible how the government and Modi completely disregarded Science and declared premature victory over the virus for political purposes and to maintain his aura among the deluded masses.
Also concerned that the variants have already made it here - I'm hoping for the best. What I'm hearing is that we should be protected against the UK & Indian variants if we are fully vaccinated.
Same here Ravi.
It sounds like a totally out of control and totally predictable tragedy, the almost inevitable result of science-denial and authoritarianism. ?If nothing else, this should prove how utterly bankrupt their “leader’s” policies are, he was holding super-spreader events until last week or something. ? And it doesn’t even matter how wealthy someone is, two bigwigs from the TMO just succumbed a few days ago.
I’d like to think of Modi spending his last days as “leader” hiding out in his bunker but that probably won’t happen.
And eventually it will affect the rest of us, what happens in India usually ?doesn’t stay there. On May 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, awb via??<abater@...> wrote:
?I keep thinking about you, Ravi, and your family in India. I hope that they are safe and well although the situation over? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?there is so terribly dire. Let us know of any news if you feel like it.??
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On 5/4/21 1:39 PM, RC wrote:
Uncle Baron - I don't know why you are referring to the Atlantic
article, the article discusses differences of opinions among
liberals on?public restrictions such as??ocial
distancing, outdoor/indoor masking, school re-openings, how best
to re-open the economy in a safe manner etc - that's all healthy
discussion
But the people mentioned in there aren't some
gullible or delusional vaccine deniers, so not sure how they
are anything like you or why you would use that article to
compare yourself to them or promote yourself???
I think you are letting the Delusional Dames here influence your
thinking.? They paint lies about me to use me as a "straw dog".? But
this kind of crap has gone on for years on the FFLs.?
Interesting to watch what is happening at the moment over on "The
Corner" where MJ is not trusting big pharma and their vaccines. B1
has to bite his tongue on that one.? MJ is not anti-vax and neither
am I but these covid vaccines are not vaccines, they are treatments
and it is somewhat questionable what the largely untested nano
technology is doing in them.? Time will tell.
Ravi, I'll reply anyway. I've never
been a conformist.? I think for myself.? I seek out
the opinions that are different from the mainstream
media because I know how the
mainstream media operates.? For decades much of the
general public took them with a grain of salt.?
Funny that people who consider themselves liberal
fall for the "party line".
No, I'm not a Modi supporter.? I was hoping the
Singh would have done a better job to raise all
boats.? But India is a corrupt and messy country, a
problem which is going to take a long time to
correct if it ever is.
That Atlantic article nails the problem with
superficial liberals like I find here.
?
On 5/4/21 1:00 PM, RC
wrote:
Thank you Uncle B2 but not happy that a) you are
being flippant about this topic, everyone here
knows I'm in SoCal ?& b) you are peddling the
same theories that contributed to this second
wave, you might very well be a Modi supporter. Can
you not feel the suffering of people? How can keep
denying the obvious? Please don't respond with
your same old arguments - have read enough.
Good to hear that your
family is well.? It's just that Ann
made it sound like you
are living in India and I knew
better.? Unless they've been there
TM people tend to be very naive
about India.? It's not the "land of
the Ved". ;-)
On
5/4/21 11:34 AM, RC wrote:
Thank
you Ann, Emily & Sal!
My family in India
- luckily - is doing fine. I'm
most concerned about my mom
who's 73 and she's been fully
vaccinated a few weeks back.
She only had a few mild
symptoms after each of the
doses and she's been mostly
home since last year, other
than family gatherings with
masked and her siblings who
are also vaccinated and
staying safe.
I have just heard
of my sister-in-law's
(brother's wife) losing a
family member who was 37.
Apparently a result of a heart
attack from a clot after being
discharged, he should have
been apparently prescribed
blood thinners as one of the
medicine used for recovery is
known to cause clots (based on
what my brother told me). Also
heard that my cousin's husband
is sick, but recovering at
home
Talking to
friends from my college days
here in US and family
members everyone at this
point knows someone who's
gotten really, in ICU and/or
lost a family member. It's
been horrible, whatever you
are hearing on the news is
painfully true. The most
common stories I have heard
is people panic-stricken
trying to find ICU beds.
India with
it's structural problems
with healthcare cannot
handle this. Most of the top
hospitals are all for-profit
entities, coupled with the
absence of health insurance
is only for the privileged.
You would need at least
thousands of dollars to get
quality access to
healthcare. The poor, lower
middle class are dying in
droves and not even being
recorded as COVID related.
It is horrible how
the government and Modi
completely disregarded Science
and declared premature victory
over the virus for political
purposes and to maintain his
aura among the deluded masses.
Also concerned
that the variants have already
made it here - I'm hoping for
the best. What I'm hearing is
that we should be protected
against the UK & Indian
variants if we are fully
vaccinated.
Same
here Ravi.
It
sounds like a
totally out of
control and totally
predictable tragedy,
the almost
inevitable result of
science-denial and
authoritarianism.
?If nothing else,
this should prove
how utterly bankrupt
their “leader’s”
policies are, he was
holding
super-spreader
events until last
week or something. ?
And it doesn’t even
matter how wealthy
someone is, two
bigwigs from the TMO
just succumbed a few
days ago.
I’d like
to think of Modi
spending his last
days as “leader”
hiding out in his
bunker but that
probably won’t
happen.
And
eventually it will
affect the rest of
us, what happens in
India usually
?doesn’t stay there.
On May
4, 2021, at 8:07
AM, awb via
<abater@...>
wrote:
?I keep
thinking about
you, Ravi, and
your family in
India. I hope
that they are
safe and well
although the
situation over
there is so
terribly dire.
Let us know of
any news if you
feel like it.?
|
Uncle Baron - I don't know why you are referring to the Atlantic article, the article discusses differences of opinions among liberals on? public restrictions such as??ocial distancing, outdoor/indoor masking, school re-openings, how best to re-open the economy in a safe manner etc - that's all healthy discussion
But the people mentioned in there aren't some gullible or delusional vaccine deniers, so not sure how they are anything like you or why you would use that article to compare yourself to them or promote yourself???
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Ravi, I'll reply anyway. I've never been a conformist.? I think for
myself.? I seek out the opinions that are different from the
mainstream media because I know how the mainstream media
operates.? For decades much of the general public took them with a
grain of salt.? Funny that people who consider themselves liberal
fall for the "party line".
No, I'm not a Modi supporter.? I was hoping the Singh would have
done a better job to raise all boats.? But India is a corrupt and
messy country, a problem which is going to take a long time to
correct if it ever is.
That Atlantic article nails the problem with superficial liberals
like I find here.
?
On 5/4/21 1:00 PM, RC wrote:
Thank you Uncle B2 but not happy that a) you are being flippant
about this topic, everyone here knows I'm in SoCal ?& b) you
are peddling the same theories that contributed to this second
wave, you might very well be a Modi supporter. Can you not feel
the suffering of people? How can keep denying the obvious? Please
don't respond with your same old arguments - have read enough.
Good to hear that your family is well.?
It's just that Ann made it sound like you
are living in India and I knew better.? Unless
they've been there TM people tend to be very naive
about India.? It's not the "land of the Ved". ;-)
On 5/4/21 11:34 AM, RC
wrote:
Thank you Ann,
Emily & Sal!
My family in India - luckily - is
doing fine. I'm most concerned about my mom
who's 73 and she's been fully vaccinated a few
weeks back. She only had a few mild symptoms
after each of the doses and she's been mostly
home since last year, other than family
gatherings with masked and her siblings who
are also vaccinated and staying safe.
I have just heard of my
sister-in-law's (brother's wife) losing a
family member who was 37. Apparently a result
of a heart attack from a clot after being
discharged, he should have been apparently
prescribed blood thinners as one of the
medicine used for recovery is known to cause
clots (based on what my brother told me). Also
heard that my cousin's husband is sick, but
recovering at home
Talking to friends from my
college days here in US and family members
everyone at this point knows someone who's
gotten really, in ICU and/or lost a family
member. It's been horrible, whatever you are
hearing on the news is painfully true. The
most common stories I have heard is people
panic-stricken trying to find ICU beds.
India with it's structural
problems with healthcare cannot handle this.
Most of the top hospitals are all for-profit
entities, coupled with the absence of health
insurance is only for the privileged. You
would need at least thousands of dollars to
get quality access to healthcare. The poor,
lower middle class are dying in droves and
not even being recorded as COVID related.
It is horrible how the government
and Modi completely disregarded Science and
declared premature victory over the virus for
political purposes and to maintain his aura
among the deluded masses.
Also concerned that the variants
have already made it here - I'm hoping for the
best. What I'm hearing is that we should be
protected against the UK & Indian variants
if we are fully vaccinated.
Same here Ravi.
It sounds like a totally
out of control and totally
predictable tragedy, the almost
inevitable result of science-denial
and authoritarianism. ?If nothing
else, this should prove how utterly
bankrupt their “leader’s” policies
are, he was holding super-spreader
events until last week or something.
? And it doesn’t even matter how
wealthy someone is, two bigwigs from
the TMO just succumbed a few days
ago.
I’d like to think of
Modi spending his last days as
“leader” hiding out in his bunker
but that probably won’t happen.
And eventually it will
affect the rest of us, what happens
in India usually ?doesn’t stay
there.
On
May 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, awb via
<abater@...>
wrote:
?I keep
thinking about you, Ravi, and
your family in India. I hope
that they are safe and well
although the situation over
there is so terribly dire. Let
us know of any news if you feel
like it.?
|
Ravi, I'll reply anyway. I've never been a conformist.? I think for
myself.? I seek out the opinions that are different from the
mainstream media because I know how the mainstream media
operates.? For decades much of the general public took them with a
grain of salt.? Funny that people who consider themselves liberal
fall for the "party line".
No, I'm not a Modi supporter.? I was hoping the Singh would have
done a better job to raise all boats.? But India is a corrupt and
messy country, a problem which is going to take a long time to
correct if it ever is.
That Atlantic article nails the problem with superficial liberals
like I find here.
?
On 5/4/21 1:00 PM, RC wrote:
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Thank you Uncle B2 but not happy that a) you are being flippant
about this topic, everyone here knows I'm in SoCal ?& b) you
are peddling the same theories that contributed to this second
wave, you might very well be a Modi supporter. Can you not feel
the suffering of people? How can keep denying the obvious? Please
don't respond with your same old arguments - have read enough.
Good to hear that your family is well.?
It's just that Ann made it sound like you
are living in India and I knew better.? Unless
they've been there TM people tend to be very naive
about India.? It's not the "land of the Ved". ;-)
On 5/4/21 11:34 AM, RC
wrote:
Thank you Ann,
Emily & Sal!
My family in India - luckily - is
doing fine. I'm most concerned about my mom
who's 73 and she's been fully vaccinated a few
weeks back. She only had a few mild symptoms
after each of the doses and she's been mostly
home since last year, other than family
gatherings with masked and her siblings who
are also vaccinated and staying safe.
I have just heard of my
sister-in-law's (brother's wife) losing a
family member who was 37. Apparently a result
of a heart attack from a clot after being
discharged, he should have been apparently
prescribed blood thinners as one of the
medicine used for recovery is known to cause
clots (based on what my brother told me). Also
heard that my cousin's husband is sick, but
recovering at home
Talking to friends from my
college days here in US and family members
everyone at this point knows someone who's
gotten really, in ICU and/or lost a family
member. It's been horrible, whatever you are
hearing on the news is painfully true. The
most common stories I have heard is people
panic-stricken trying to find ICU beds.
India with it's structural
problems with healthcare cannot handle this.
Most of the top hospitals are all for-profit
entities, coupled with the absence of health
insurance is only for the privileged. You
would need at least thousands of dollars to
get quality access to healthcare. The poor,
lower middle class are dying in droves and
not even being recorded as COVID related.
It is horrible how the government
and Modi completely disregarded Science and
declared premature victory over the virus for
political purposes and to maintain his aura
among the deluded masses.
Also concerned that the variants
have already made it here - I'm hoping for the
best. What I'm hearing is that we should be
protected against the UK & Indian variants
if we are fully vaccinated.
Same here Ravi.
It sounds like a totally
out of control and totally
predictable tragedy, the almost
inevitable result of science-denial
and authoritarianism. ?If nothing
else, this should prove how utterly
bankrupt their “leader’s” policies
are, he was holding super-spreader
events until last week or something.
? And it doesn’t even matter how
wealthy someone is, two bigwigs from
the TMO just succumbed a few days
ago.
I’d like to think of
Modi spending his last days as
“leader” hiding out in his bunker
but that probably won’t happen.
And eventually it will
affect the rest of us, what happens
in India usually ?doesn’t stay
there.
On
May 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, awb via
<abater@...>
wrote:
?I keep
thinking about you, Ravi, and
your family in India. I hope
that they are safe and well
although the situation over
there is so terribly dire. Let
us know of any news if you feel
like it.?
|
That was horrific!! Ann - this video is not for you.
This is the state of public hospitals - referred to as "government hospital" in India. The poor and needy and people who lived pay check to paycheck have no option but to rely on the hospitals. These hospitals are overcrowded with very few doctors and nurses and limited facilities.?
Growing up I remember - every town has just 1 of this hospital and it's close to the main public Medical college - the final year students would intern here. No one that's rich or middle class ever visits this hospital, they go to private hospitals. I remember going there once, I think one of the friends of my brother-in-law's who was a doctor was stopping by for some reason and I was with them. I remember the overcrowding and people every where, outside and in the hallways. It's very sad and distressing.
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?So glad to hear your family is safe! ?Condolences on your SIL’s family member.
Anyone who thinks the crisis is in any way overblown hasn’t seen this. ?Warning: it is traumatizing. ?
? Thank you Ann, Emily & Sal!
My family in India - luckily - is doing fine. I'm most concerned about my mom who's 73 and she's been fully vaccinated a few weeks back. She only had a few mild symptoms after each of the doses and she's been mostly home since last year, other than family gatherings with masked and her siblings who are also vaccinated and staying safe.
I have just heard of my sister-in-law's (brother's wife) losing a family member who was 37. Apparently a result of a heart attack from a clot after being discharged, he should have been apparently prescribed blood thinners as one of the medicine used for recovery is known to cause clots (based on what my brother told me). Also heard that my cousin's husband is sick, but recovering at home
Talking to friends from my college days here in US and family members everyone at this point knows someone who's gotten really, in ICU and/or lost a family member. It's been horrible, whatever you are hearing on the news is painfully true. The most common stories I have heard is people panic-stricken trying to find ICU beds.
India with it's structural problems with healthcare cannot handle this. Most of the top hospitals are all for-profit entities, coupled with the absence of health insurance is only for the privileged. You would need at least thousands of dollars to get quality access to healthcare. The poor, lower middle class are dying in droves and not even being recorded as COVID related.
It is horrible how the government and Modi completely disregarded Science and declared premature victory over the virus for political purposes and to maintain his aura among the deluded masses.
Also concerned that the variants have already made it here - I'm hoping for the best. What I'm hearing is that we should be protected against the UK & Indian variants if we are fully vaccinated.
Same here Ravi.
It sounds like a totally out of control and totally predictable tragedy, the almost inevitable result of science-denial and authoritarianism. ?If nothing else, this should prove how utterly bankrupt their “leader’s” policies are, he was holding super-spreader events until last week or something. ? And it doesn’t even matter how wealthy someone is, two bigwigs from the TMO just succumbed a few days ago.
I’d like to think of Modi spending his last days as “leader” hiding out in his bunker but that probably won’t happen.
And eventually it will affect the rest of us, what happens in India usually ?doesn’t stay there. On May 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, awb via??<abater@...> wrote:
?I keep thinking about you, Ravi, and your family in India. I hope that they are safe and well although the situation over there is so terribly dire. Let us know of any news if you feel like it.?
|
The Liberals Who Can’t Quit Lockdown
This article nails it and it's in The Atlantic:
Progressive communities have been home to some of the fiercest
battles over COVID-19 policies, and some liberal policy makers
have left scientific evidence behind.
Let the caterwauling begin. ?
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Thank you Uncle B2 but not happy that a) you are being flippant about this topic, everyone here knows I'm in SoCal ?& b) you are peddling the same theories that contributed to this second wave, you might very well be a Modi supporter. Can you not feel the suffering of people? How can keep denying the obvious? Please don't respond with your same old arguments - have read enough.
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Good to hear that your family is well.? It's just that Ann made it
sound like you are living in India and I knew better.?
Unless they've been there TM people tend to be very naive about
India.? It's not the "land of the Ved". ;-)
On 5/4/21 11:34 AM, RC wrote:
Thank you Ann,
Emily & Sal!
My family in India - luckily - is doing fine. I'm
most concerned about my mom who's 73 and she's been fully
vaccinated a few weeks back. She only had a few mild symptoms
after each of the doses and she's been mostly home since last
year, other than family gatherings with masked and her
siblings who are also vaccinated and staying safe.
I have just heard of my sister-in-law's (brother's
wife) losing a family member who was 37. Apparently a result
of a heart attack from a clot after being discharged, he
should have been apparently prescribed blood thinners as one
of the medicine used for recovery is known to cause clots
(based on what my brother told me). Also heard that my
cousin's husband is sick, but recovering at home
Talking to friends from my college
days here in US and family members everyone at this point
knows someone who's gotten really, in ICU and/or lost a
family member. It's been horrible, whatever you are hearing
on the news is painfully true. The most common stories I
have heard is people panic-stricken trying to find ICU beds.
India with it's structural problems
with healthcare cannot handle this. Most of the top
hospitals are all for-profit entities, coupled with the
absence of health insurance is only for the privileged. You
would need at least thousands of dollars to get quality
access to healthcare. The poor, lower middle class are dying
in droves and not even being recorded as COVID related.
It is horrible how the government and Modi
completely disregarded Science and declared premature victory
over the virus for political purposes and to maintain his aura
among the deluded masses.
Also concerned that the variants have already made
it here - I'm hoping for the best. What I'm hearing is that we
should be protected against the UK & Indian variants if we
are fully vaccinated.
Same here Ravi.
It sounds like a totally out of control
and totally predictable tragedy, the almost
inevitable result of science-denial and
authoritarianism. ?If nothing else, this should
prove how utterly bankrupt their “leader’s” policies
are, he was holding super-spreader events until last
week or something. ? And it doesn’t even matter how
wealthy someone is, two bigwigs from the TMO just
succumbed a few days ago.
I’d like to think of Modi spending his
last days as “leader” hiding out in his bunker but
that probably won’t happen.
And eventually it will affect the rest
of us, what happens in India usually ?doesn’t stay
there.
On May 4, 2021,
at 8:07 AM, awb via
<abater@...>
wrote:
?I keep thinking about
you, Ravi, and your family in India. I hope that
they are safe and well although the situation
over there is so terribly dire. Let us know of
any news if you feel like it.?
|
Good to hear that your family is well.? It's just that Ann made it
sound like you are living in India and I knew better.?
Unless they've been there TM people tend to be very naive about
India.? It's not the "land of the Ved". ;-)
On 5/4/21 11:34 AM, RC wrote:
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Thank you Ann,
Emily & Sal!
My family in India - luckily - is doing fine. I'm
most concerned about my mom who's 73 and she's been fully
vaccinated a few weeks back. She only had a few mild symptoms
after each of the doses and she's been mostly home since last
year, other than family gatherings with masked and her
siblings who are also vaccinated and staying safe.
I have just heard of my sister-in-law's (brother's
wife) losing a family member who was 37. Apparently a result
of a heart attack from a clot after being discharged, he
should have been apparently prescribed blood thinners as one
of the medicine used for recovery is known to cause clots
(based on what my brother told me). Also heard that my
cousin's husband is sick, but recovering at home
Talking to friends from my college
days here in US and family members everyone at this point
knows someone who's gotten really, in ICU and/or lost a
family member. It's been horrible, whatever you are hearing
on the news is painfully true. The most common stories I
have heard is people panic-stricken trying to find ICU beds.
India with it's structural problems
with healthcare cannot handle this. Most of the top
hospitals are all for-profit entities, coupled with the
absence of health insurance is only for the privileged. You
would need at least thousands of dollars to get quality
access to healthcare. The poor, lower middle class are dying
in droves and not even being recorded as COVID related.
It is horrible how the government and Modi
completely disregarded Science and declared premature victory
over the virus for political purposes and to maintain his aura
among the deluded masses.
Also concerned that the variants have already made
it here - I'm hoping for the best. What I'm hearing is that we
should be protected against the UK & Indian variants if we
are fully vaccinated.
Same here Ravi.
It sounds like a totally out of control
and totally predictable tragedy, the almost
inevitable result of science-denial and
authoritarianism. ?If nothing else, this should
prove how utterly bankrupt their “leader’s” policies
are, he was holding super-spreader events until last
week or something. ? And it doesn’t even matter how
wealthy someone is, two bigwigs from the TMO just
succumbed a few days ago.
I’d like to think of Modi spending his
last days as “leader” hiding out in his bunker but
that probably won’t happen.
And eventually it will affect the rest
of us, what happens in India usually ?doesn’t stay
there.
On May 4, 2021,
at 8:07 AM, awb via
<abater@...>
wrote:
?I keep thinking about
you, Ravi, and your family in India. I hope that
they are safe and well although the situation
over there is so terribly dire. Let us know of
any news if you feel like it.?
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? So glad to hear your family is safe! ?Condolences on your SIL’s family member.
Anyone who thinks the crisis is in any way overblown hasn’t seen this. ?Warning: it is traumatizing. ?
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? Thank you Ann, Emily & Sal!
My family in India - luckily - is doing fine. I'm most concerned about my mom who's 73 and she's been fully vaccinated a few weeks back. She only had a few mild symptoms after each of the doses and she's been mostly home since last year, other than family gatherings with masked and her siblings who are also vaccinated and staying safe.
I have just heard of my sister-in-law's (brother's wife) losing a family member who was 37. Apparently a result of a heart attack from a clot after being discharged, he should have been apparently prescribed blood thinners as one of the medicine used for recovery is known to cause clots (based on what my brother told me). Also heard that my cousin's husband is sick, but recovering at home
Talking to friends from my college days here in US and family members everyone at this point knows someone who's gotten really, in ICU and/or lost a family member. It's been horrible, whatever you are hearing on the news is painfully true. The most common stories I have heard is people panic-stricken trying to find ICU beds.
India with it's structural problems with healthcare cannot handle this. Most of the top hospitals are all for-profit entities, coupled with the absence of health insurance is only for the privileged. You would need at least thousands of dollars to get quality access to healthcare. The poor, lower middle class are dying in droves and not even being recorded as COVID related.
It is horrible how the government and Modi completely disregarded Science and declared premature victory over the virus for political purposes and to maintain his aura among the deluded masses.
Also concerned that the variants have already made it here - I'm hoping for the best. What I'm hearing is that we should be protected against the UK & Indian variants if we are fully vaccinated.
Same here Ravi.
It sounds like a totally out of control and totally predictable tragedy, the almost inevitable result of science-denial and authoritarianism. ?If nothing else, this should prove how utterly bankrupt their “leader’s” policies are, he was holding super-spreader events until last week or something. ? And it doesn’t even matter how wealthy someone is, two bigwigs from the TMO just succumbed a few days ago.
I’d like to think of Modi spending his last days as “leader” hiding out in his bunker but that probably won’t happen.
And eventually it will affect the rest of us, what happens in India usually ?doesn’t stay there. On May 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, awb via <abater@...> wrote:
?I keep thinking about you, Ravi, and your family in India. I hope that they are safe and well although the situation over there is so terribly dire. Let us know of any news if you feel like it.?
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Thank you Ann, Emily & Sal!
My family in India - luckily - is doing fine. I'm most concerned about my mom who's 73 and she's been fully vaccinated a few weeks back. She only had a few mild symptoms after each of the doses and she's been mostly home since last year, other than family gatherings with masked and her siblings who are also vaccinated and staying safe.
I have just heard of my sister-in-law's (brother's wife) losing a family member who was 37. Apparently a result of a heart attack from a clot after being discharged, he should have been apparently prescribed blood thinners as one of the medicine used for recovery is known to cause clots (based on what my brother told me). Also heard that my cousin's husband is sick, but recovering at home
Talking to friends from my college days here in US and family members everyone at this point knows someone who's gotten really, in ICU and/or lost a family member. It's been horrible, whatever you are hearing on the news is painfully true. The most common stories I have heard is people panic-stricken trying to find ICU beds.
India with it's structural problems with healthcare cannot handle this. Most of the top hospitals are all for-profit entities, coupled with the absence of health insurance is only for the privileged. You would need at least thousands of dollars to get quality access to healthcare. The poor, lower middle class are dying in droves and not even being recorded as COVID related.
It is horrible how the government and Modi completely disregarded Science and declared premature victory over the virus for political purposes and to maintain his aura among the deluded masses.
Also concerned that the variants have already made it here - I'm hoping for the best. What I'm hearing is that we should be protected against the UK & Indian variants if we are fully vaccinated.
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Same here Ravi.
It sounds like a totally out of control and totally predictable tragedy, the almost inevitable result of science-denial and authoritarianism. ?If nothing else, this should prove how utterly bankrupt their “leader’s” policies are, he was holding super-spreader events until last week or something. ? And it doesn’t even matter how wealthy someone is, two bigwigs from the TMO just succumbed a few days ago.
I’d like to think of Modi spending his last days as “leader” hiding out in his bunker but that probably won’t happen.
And eventually it will affect the rest of us, what happens in India usually ?doesn’t stay there. On May 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, awb via <abater@...> wrote:
?I keep thinking about you, Ravi, and your family in India. I hope that they are safe and well although the situation over there is so terribly dire. Let us know of any news if you feel like it.?
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Same here Ravi.
It sounds like a totally out of control and totally predictable tragedy, the almost inevitable result of science-denial and authoritarianism. ?If nothing else, this should prove how utterly bankrupt their “leader’s” policies are, he was holding super-spreader events until last week or something. ? And it doesn’t even matter how wealthy someone is, two bigwigs from the TMO just succumbed a few days ago.
I’d like to think of Modi spending his last days as “leader” hiding out in his bunker but that probably won’t happen.
And eventually it will affect the rest of us, what happens in India usually ?doesn’t stay there.
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On May 4, 2021, at 8:07 AM, awb via groups.io <abater@...> wrote:
?I keep thinking about you, Ravi, and your family in India. I hope that they are safe and well although the situation over there is so terribly dire. Let us know of any news if you feel like it.?
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On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 09:43 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
You must be angry because you've run out of peanuts. ;-)
I'm not in the slightest bit angry. ?Where'd you get that idea? ?You're the one who was slinging gratuitous insults. ?Was it because I called you gullible? ?Lots of evidence to back that up, oh culty one. ?As I said, I'm leaving you be to rail against the global corporate elite, all the while lapping up their propaganda. ?You appear to miss the great irony of this. Your convictions appear to be those of convenience. ? Life is too good. ?Have a lovely day. ?? ? --
Em
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On 5/4/21 9:14 AM, Emily Mae via
groups.io wrote:
On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 08:59 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
I
keep thinking about you, Ravi, and your family in India. I
hope that they are safe and well although the situation over
there is so terribly dire. Let us know of any news if you feel
like it.?
Last I looked, Ann, San Diego is in southern California not
India. It is close to Mexico though. ;-)
B2, did you miss the "family in India" part of the inquiry? ?Try
for comprehension, oh culty, one.?
Read the sentence Emily or sign up for a remedial English class.
??
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Em
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On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 08:59 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
I keep thinking about you, Ravi, and your family in India. I hope that they are safe and well although the situation over there is so terribly dire. Let us know of any news if you feel like it.?
Last I looked, Ann, San Diego is in southern California not India. It is close to Mexico though. ;-)
B2, did you miss the "family in India" part of the inquiry? ?Try for comprehension, oh culty, one. ? ?? ? --
Em
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On 5/4/21 6:13 AM, awb via groups.io
wrote:
On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 07:30 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
On 5/3/21 4:41 PM, awb via
groups.io wrote:
On
Mon, May 3, 2021 at 09:43 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
You should find a conspiracy theorist then. I'm
not one.?
Okay then. You are simply a guy who refuses to believe hard
evidence and comes up with some shadowy make believe in an
effort to not have to engage with reality. You aren't a
theorist. You're just someone who finds what exists on this
planet as not quite interesting enough so has to embellish it
with weird imaginings that somehow keep you satisfied. You
also love to do this because it makes you feel superior since
you believe you are an individualist who doesn't follow the
"party line". Typical cult stuff. Cult members love to feel
special because they believe what they know is reserved only
for those anointed with some special status.
You're nuts!
Says the guy who feels so much smarter and savvy than your average
bear... Keep proving my point. Also, this does not count as a
refutation of what I said.
The skill of language is to say a lot in as few words as possible.?
That's the actual meaning of a "meme".? Barry thinks they're
pictures.? But Barry gets his news from fashion magazines.? That's
about the same way you get your "hard evidence". ROLF!
So tell us about your time with Robin Carlson.
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On 5/4/21 6:07 AM, awb via groups.io
wrote:
I keep thinking about you, Ravi, and your family in India. I hope
that they are safe and well although the situation over there is
so terribly dire. Let us know of any news if you feel like it.?
Last I looked, Ann, San Diego is in southern California not India.
It is close to Mexico though. ;-)
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On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 07:30 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
On 5/3/21 4:41 PM, awb via groups.io wrote:
On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 09:43 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
You should find a conspiracy theorist then. I'm not one.?
Okay then. You are simply a guy who refuses to believe hard evidence and comes up with some shadowy make believe in an effort to not have to engage with reality. You aren't a theorist. You're just someone who finds what exists on this planet as not quite interesting enough so has to embellish it with weird imaginings that somehow keep you satisfied. You also love to do this because it makes you feel superior since you believe you are an individualist who doesn't follow the "party line". Typical cult stuff. Cult members love to feel special because they believe what they know is reserved only for those anointed with some special status.
You're nuts!
Says the guy who feels so much smarter and savvy than your average bear... Keep proving my point. Also, this does not count as a refutation of what I said.
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Bhairitu
Sal Sunshine
Emily Mae
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