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It is a never ending battle ...?
2 words ... Train Master !
the whole ¡°Baby¡± useage for the H15/14-44/66 engines drives me nuts ....
had a guy quit my FM Facebook page because I corrected him ....
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The Model Railroad has an announcement about the new Atlas H24-66.
Kalmbach publishes Model Railroader, and published the first several Diesel Spotters Guide (no; they weren¡¯t on papyrus).
The Diesel Spotters Guide got it right. ?
The announcement by MR refers to it as a Trainmaster. ?
I give up. ?
Frank Bongiovanni
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Just got an announcement from Toy Train Heaven that new Atlas H24-66 models will be coming out.?
Wide assortment of road names.
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They call it a Trainmaster. ?
Frank Bongiovanni
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Re: Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
Good luck. ?Hope this works.?
If memory serves TVRM had a relationship with NMRA when the headquarters was there, so they might be used to, and receptive to, unusual requests. ?
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On Sep 6, 2021, at 10:12 PM, dprasse81 via groups.io <dprasse81@...> wrote:
?I have reached out to the museum ...
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 10:42, Clark Cone
<clark.cone@...> wrote:
Dave - do you have any contacts at TVRM? It would be a golden opportunity to see the Train Master up close and personal (access?to the inside of the unit) if we had a connection...
Regards, Clark Cone
TVA has been receiving coal by barge for 20+ yrs , from what i understand ...
Cant wait to go see her up close and personal,? in a public setting !
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Re: Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
I have reached out to the museum ...
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 10:42, Clark Cone <clark.cone@...> wrote: Dave - do you have any contacts at TVRM? It would be a golden opportunity to see the Train Master up close and personal (access?to the inside of the unit) if we had a connection... Regards, Clark Cone TVA has been receiving coal by barge for 20+ yrs , from what i understand ...
Cant wait to go see her up close and personal,? in a public setting !
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Re: Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
Dave - do you have any contacts at TVRM? It would be a golden opportunity to see the Train Master up close and personal (access?to the inside of the unit) if we had a connection... Regards, Clark Cone
TVA has been receiving coal by barge for 20+ yrs , from what i understand ...
Cant wait to go see her up close and personal,? in a public setting !
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Re: Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
TVA has been receiving coal by barge for 20+ yrs , from what i understand ...
Cant wait to go see her up close and personal,? in a public setting !
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Re: Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
Is that TVA power plant really rail isolated?? I thought it was served by CSX on an almost daily basis.
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Re: Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
Agreed ! Outstanding news ...
Yes ... please stop using the "baby TM" identification?
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:47, bongiovanni12001 <bongiovanni1@...> wrote:
This is excellent news for us FM fans. ??
I just wish they wouldn¡¯t call it a ¡°Baby Trainmaster¡±. ??
Frank Bongiovanni
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Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
Date:
August 17, 2021 at 8:39:48 AM EDT
Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
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August 17, 2021
Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum receives 'Baby Trainmaster' from Tennessee Valley Authority
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Tennessee Valley Authority has donated this Fairbanks-Morse locomotive to the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum. (Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum)
CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. ¡ª The Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum has added a rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive to its collection thanks to a donation from the Tennessee
Valley Authority.
The H16-66 ¡°Baby Trainmaster¡±, built in 1958, is one of the few surviving Fairbanks-Morse locomotives, and one of less than 1,500 produced by Fairbanks-Morse
before the company exited the locomotive business in 1963. ?It spent its entire working life at the TVA¡¯s Gallatin power plant near Gallatin, Tenn., until its retirement in 1997.
With the plant isolated from rail service, the locomotive languished at the plant until the TVA approached the museum about possible donation and preservation.
Extensive planning has taken place to allow the locomotive to be moved by truck to Chattanooga.
¡°TVRM is honored that TVA would place this locomotive in our collection for future display and possible operation¡± museum resident Tim Andrews said in?.? ¡°TVRM¡¯s mission is to educate the public on the role of railroads in developing the Tennessee Valley region and what better example than this locomotive to showcase the intertwined efforts of the railroads and the supply of electricity
by TVA in powering our economy.¡±
Plans are for the locomotive to be moved in time to be displayed for the start of the museum¡¯s year-long 60th anniversary celebration beginning Oct. 14, 2021.
The museum is seeking sponsorships to help defray the moving costs; more information is??or at?60years@...
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Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
This is excellent news for us FM fans. ??
I just wish they wouldn¡¯t call it a ¡°Baby Trainmaster¡±. ??
Frank Bongiovanni
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Subject: Fwd: Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
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Subject:
Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
Date:
August 17, 2021 at 8:39:48 AM EDT
Rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive donated to Tennessee museum
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August 17, 2021
Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum receives 'Baby Trainmaster' from Tennessee Valley Authority
 The
Tennessee Valley Authority has donated this Fairbanks-Morse locomotive to the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum. (Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum)
CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. ¡ª The Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum has added a rare Fairbanks-Morse locomotive to its collection thanks to a donation from the Tennessee
Valley Authority.
The H16-66 ¡°Baby Trainmaster¡±, built in 1958, is one of the few surviving Fairbanks-Morse locomotives, and one of less than 1,500 produced by Fairbanks-Morse
before the company exited the locomotive business in 1963. ?It spent its entire working life at the TVA¡¯s Gallatin power plant near Gallatin, Tenn., until its retirement in 1997.
With the plant isolated from rail service, the locomotive languished at the plant until the TVA approached the museum about possible donation and preservation.
Extensive planning has taken place to allow the locomotive to be moved by truck to Chattanooga.
¡°TVRM is honored that TVA would place this locomotive in our collection for future display and possible operation¡± museum resident Tim Andrews said in?.? ¡°TVRM¡¯s mission is to educate the public on the role of railroads in developing the Tennessee Valley region and what better example than this locomotive to showcase the intertwined efforts of the railroads and the supply of electricity
by TVA in powering our economy.¡±
Plans are for the locomotive to be moved in time to be displayed for the start of the museum¡¯s year-long 60th anniversary celebration beginning Oct. 14, 2021.
The museum is seeking sponsorships to help defray the moving costs; more information is??or at?60years@...
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In O scale , there have been brass H16-44 engines and also , a nice one by Lionel , which I have ...
all are Phase 1 , early engines ...
im sure a person with more talent than I could remove the single radiator fan and install a Train Master style cooling fan set up ... but , I¡¯m not that talented person ... hehehe?
in HO , I¡¯m not sure how much work would be needed to convert an Atlas H16-44 Phase 1 to a phase 2 similar to thecearly Virginian and Milwaukee Road engines ....
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True ! O scalers did have Train Masters before HO modelers ...
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Okay, Dave; I¡¯ll bite. ?Didn¡¯t anybody ever do the H16 in O? ?
I guess we should make up a table of reasonable FM models, in various scales, and add comments as to degree of reasonableness. ?I¡¯ll get started on the HO.
And, let¡¯s be fair; if memory serves O scalers got an H24-66 sooner than we did in HO.
Frank Bongiovanni
Trying to model the Virginian from McAlpin to Matoaka in HO
With plenty of FM power, along with the steam and electric. ?
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?Now , if somebody would fertilize these 1:87 scale units to grow them up to 1:48 scale !
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Now , if somebody would fertilize these 1:87 scale units to grow them up to 1:48 scale !
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On the Virginian list and some of the others there¡¯s quite a bit of cautious excitement about the coming Rapido H16-44s. ?With any luck Rapido will be at the PM meet in St. Louis later this week, and may have some pilot models. ?There may be some real possibilities here. ?
Frank Bongiovanni
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>dprasse81
The Canadian Pacific ones were all made with the centered third fan.? But it seems you are correct, the ones made for Canadian National have the traditional three fans with the spot where a fourth would be, blanked off.? At least on the few pictures I could find.? Unfortunately I am more familiar with the CPR units than the CNR ones... although I do like the H12-64's the CNR had.
>Clark
Decent roof shots seem to be exceedingly difficult to locate.? Are you talking about the dynamic brake fan near the crew cab or the cooling fans at the end of the long hood?? Also, CLC or FM builds?
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Anyone have any detail photos of the exhaust fans, especially the center-mounted fan... Thanks, Clark Cone
I didn't know that there were other H16-44's with a 3 fan cooling arangement.? The Canadian Pacific ones did, centered and angled towards the short-hood.
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I believe the CLC Built models are the only ones sporting that style of 3 fans , with the 3rd fan centered on the roof ...
I believe some of the clc h16-44 engines had the Beloit standard of 2 fans on the one side , and one fan on the opposite fan , like the Virginian is sporting ...
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I didn't know that there were other H16-44's with a 3 fan cooling arangement.? The Canadian Pacific ones did, centered and angled towards the short-hood.
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