That's a shame.? The Ingalls diesel looked cool.
On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, 8:10?a.m. bongiovanni12001 via <bongiovanni1= [email protected]> wrote: I don't have reasonable info, but it's not surprising.? But if true, we know what it's about:
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Reliable legend: the Ingalls diesel (*)was offered to a historical society (GM&O, IRM??)for about $3000, and they couldn't come up with the money so it, the one and only, was scrapped.??
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*if anyone on this group is not familiar with the one and only Ingalls diesel let me know.??
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Frank
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I don't have reasonable info, but it's not surprising.? But if true, we know what it's about:
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Reliable legend: the Ingalls diesel (*)was offered to a historical society (GM&O, IRM??)for about $3000, and they couldn't come up with the money so it, the one and only, was scrapped.??
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*if anyone on this group is not familiar with the one and only Ingalls diesel let me know.??
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Frank
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Hello
I read a few months ago in a Rapido Trains online newsletter that the ex Canadian Pacific H-16-44 8554 was scrapped.? Other websites said this was done on-site along with two FM C-Liner B units at an old natural gas plant near Mazeppa, Alberta.? It's sad news, and I though I searched for news stories of these locomotives being saved at the last minute, I believe they are gone now.? Does anybody know how organizations like Heritage Park in Calgary, or the Alberta Railway Museum in Namao let this happen?
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Martin Iftody?
Toronto, Ontario?
Canada?
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Re: closure of Canadian Locomotive Company
If you can find a copy, the book 'Constructed In Kingston: A History of the Canadian Locomotive Companies' is THE authoritive book about it all.? Unfortunately mine is packed away but I seem to recall that it wasn't any one thing that brought the company down. Shifting markets, labour unrest, parent company FM fighting a hostile takeover, etc all conspired against it.
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Re: CLC in 1972 Canadian Rail
Thanks Martin!? Saved.? Love those CPR C-liners.
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MR just arrived. ?Review of the new Atlas Train Master. ?Headline got it right as two words and the FM model number. ?Hooray!
Then the article calls it an H26-44. ?
Aaaargh!!
Frank Bongiovanni
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Re: Fw: Arriving Soon at Atlas ETA 2.28.24
Looks good, but I never expected to see one in Chihuahua Pacifico paint.? As far as I know, CH-P only had H-16-44s.
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Fw: Arriving Soon at Atlas ETA 2.28.24
The new H24-66 might be of interest.? Maybe the undec.
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Re: CLC in 1972 Canadian Rail
https://www.railwaypages.com/files/1105404/canadian-rail-no240-1972.pdf
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CLC in 1972 Canadian Rail
Hello
I found an interesting article about Canadian Locomotive Company in a 1972 issue of Canadian Rail.? It has several pictures of CPR FM-design units.? Here's the link:??
? ? ?It also will take you to the complete index of pdf scanned issues of Canadian Rail from the late Charles Cooper's Railway Pages.? He died earlier this year.? I'm not sure how much longer these files will be here, so enjoy!
Martin Iftody
Toronto, Ontario?
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Re: CP H-24-66 designation
CPR #8901-8904 had the two OK-4625 steam generators in the short wide hood (the hood was full width of the locomotive).? They were classified as DRS-24b as they were in the second batch or TM's ordered.? The documents in my collection only refer to them as H24-66's.
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I may be late on this, but if any of you get your hands on the new Rapido H16-44, please let us know what you think.
Bert¡¯s question from May hasn¡¯t been answered, unless someone responded to him directly. ?Good question. ?I haven¡¯t found the answer¡yet. ?
Frank Bongiovanni
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Does anyone know the specific designation for the Trainmasters that CP owned which had the dual
train heaters in the longer cabs? Maybe H-24-66dh?
Thanks
Bert
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closure of Canadian Locomotive Company
Hello,
I found this accidentally looking for information on the Canadian licensee of F-M, Canadian Locomotive Company.
Other histories I've read make it seem like the company quietly died for lack of customers.? The Wikipedia page for CLC says they had labor unrest, sabotage, and even a crash involving the shop switcher.? Parent company F-M pulled the plug in 1969.
Martin Iftody?
Toronto, Canada?
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California State
Railroad Museum. Sacramento, Ca. And I¡¯ve never seen any
comment about it, but when I asked the Museum Director about it he stated it¡¯s
in their ¡°future restoration¡± list. At that time he wouldn¡¯t let me back to see
it, but he said if I set up an appointment in the future I might get access to
it. But that was in 2003 or so.
Bert
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I can't find it.? Also I'm a but confused, there is a California State Railroad
Museum and a Southern
California Railroad Museum.? The Southern California
one has an H-12-44, I was able to re-locate an interesting video about
it.? They swapped injectors with a friendly company that overhauled US
Navy equipment, so that locomotive runs now.
Toronto,
Ontario, Canada?
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On Tue., Apr. 4, 2023, 4:51 a.m. Bert Greeley, <bert-tpsrr@...> wrote:
Just FYI ¨C There is, or was, an
old Santa Fe H-16-44 at the California
Railroad Museum.
It was in their storage tracks north of the museum proper. As I haven¡¯t driven
up there lately I don¡¯t know if it¡¯s still visible, but you used to be able to
see it as you got north on I5 past the museum, look to the right of the freeway
and down and you could see the top of the loco. This was a post-Lowery design,
not the oval-windowed model.
Bert
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Hello,
It's nice to be part of this group again.? I was on here in the early
2000's when it was a Yahoo Group.? I wanted to share something with all of
you; I'm not trying to brag, but I think it's really cool.
? ? ?In 2004, my late father-in-law Alberto Hurtado Moreno took
me to the train museum in Puebla, one hour
south of Mexico City.?
They had an H-16-44!? I spent about 3 hours photographing and measuring
it.? We went back the next year, and I spent another 3 hours on it.?
I intended to build an O scale model.
? ? ?Fast-forward to now, my model railroader father-in-law is
dead, and I'm divorced,? But, a few months ago I sent 60 photos to Rapido
Trains. I had seen a newsletter where two of their employees were measuring and
scanning a former CP CLC-built H-16-44 in a museum in the village
of Mazeppa, Alberta,
Canada.?
I knew some of the louvers would be in different places on a CLC unit.? Beloit units are
different.? ?They responded with this nice enail.? I took a
screen shot of it, and attached it here.
? ? ?Jason Shron and his employees at Rapido will do a fine job,
and produce a very accurate model.? I am glad I got to help in some way,
and my late father-in-law would be proud.? Some of the pain was worth it.
Martin Iftody
Toronto, Ontario,
Canada
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The H12-44 rebirth is awesome ..?
Has several videos on my FB , following along ...
Didnt know about a surving H16-44 , stateside ...
Cool work with Rapido?
dP
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I can't find it.? Also I'm a but confused, there is a California State Railroad Museum and a Southern California Railroad Museum.? The Southern California one has an H-12-44, I was able to re-locate an interesting video about it.? They swapped injectors with a friendly company that overhauled US Navy equipment, so that locomotive runs now.
Martin Iftody? Toronto, Ontario, Canada?
On Tue., Apr. 4, 2023, 4:51 a.m. Bert Greeley, < bert-tpsrr@...> wrote:
Just FYI ¨C
There is, or was, an old Santa Fe H-16-44 at the California Railroad
Museum. It was in their
storage tracks north of the museum proper. As I haven¡¯t driven up there lately
I don¡¯t know if it¡¯s still visible, but you used to be able to see it as you
got north on I5 past the museum, look to the right of the freeway and down and
you could see the top of the loco. This was a post-Lowery design, not the
oval-windowed model.
Bert
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Hello,
It's nice to be part of this group again.? I was on here in the early
2000's when it was a Yahoo Group.? I wanted to share something with all of
you; I'm not trying to brag, but I think it's really cool.
? ? ?In 2004, my late father-in-law Alberto Hurtado Moreno took
me to the train museum in Puebla, one hour
south of Mexico City.?
They had an H-16-44!? I spent about 3 hours photographing and measuring
it.? We went back the next year, and I spent another 3 hours on it.?
I intended to build an O scale model.
? ? ?Fast-forward to now, my model railroader father-in-law is
dead, and I'm divorced,? But, a few months ago I sent 60 photos to Rapido
Trains. I had seen a newsletter where two of their employees were measuring and
scanning a former CP CLC-built H-16-44 in a museum in the village
of Mazeppa, Alberta,
Canada.?
I knew some of the louvers would be in different places on a CLC unit.? Beloit units are
different.? ?They responded with this nice enail.? I took a
screen shot of it, and attached it here.
? ? ?Jason Shron and his employees at Rapido will do a fine job,
and produce a very accurate model.? I am glad I got to help in some way,
and my late father-in-law would be proud.? Some of the pain was worth it.
Martin Iftody
Toronto, Ontario,
Canada
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Just FYI ¨C
There is, or was, an old Santa Fe H-16-44 at the California Railroad
Museum. It was in their
storage tracks north of the museum proper. As I haven¡¯t driven up there lately
I don¡¯t know if it¡¯s still visible, but you used to be able to see it as you
got north on I5 past the museum, look to the right of the freeway and down and
you could see the top of the loco. This was a post-Lowery design, not the
oval-windowed model.
Bert
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Hello,
It's nice to be part of this group again.? I was on here in the early
2000's when it was a Yahoo Group.? I wanted to share something with all of
you; I'm not trying to brag, but I think it's really cool.
? ? ?In 2004, my late father-in-law Alberto Hurtado Moreno took
me to the train museum in Puebla, one hour
south of Mexico City.?
They had an H-16-44!? I spent about 3 hours photographing and measuring
it.? We went back the next year, and I spent another 3 hours on it.?
I intended to build an O scale model.
? ? ?Fast-forward to now, my model railroader father-in-law is
dead, and I'm divorced,? But, a few months ago I sent 60 photos to Rapido
Trains. I had seen a newsletter where two of their employees were measuring and
scanning a former CP CLC-built H-16-44 in a museum in the village
of Mazeppa, Alberta,
Canada.?
I knew some of the louvers would be in different places on a CLC unit.? Beloit units are
different.? ?They responded with this nice enail.? I took a
screen shot of it, and attached it here.
? ? ?Jason Shron and his employees at Rapido will do a fine job,
and produce a very accurate model.? I am glad I got to help in some way,
and my late father-in-law would be proud.? Some of the pain was worth it.
Martin Iftody
Toronto, Ontario,
Canada
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Hi Bert
Canadian units only had 3 fans because almost all of them had small engines-? 1600hp, not 2000 or 2400.? Only the 2400hp Trainmasters with 4 fans.? I suspect the climate had something to do with it, too-? those engines weren't going to cross the Sonora desert!
Martin Iftody
Toronto, Canada
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Hello,
It's nice to be part of this group again.? I was on here in the early 2000's when it was a Yahoo Group.? I wanted to share something with all of you; I'm not trying to brag, but I think it's really cool.
? ? ?In 2004, my late father-in-law Alberto Hurtado Moreno took me to the train museum in Puebla, one hour south of Mexico City.? They had an H-16-44!? I spent about 3 hours photographing and measuring it.? We went back the next year, and I spent another 3 hours on it.? I intended to build an O scale model.
? ? ?Fast-forward to now, my model railroader father-in-law is dead, and I'm divorced,? But, a few months ago I sent 60 photos to Rapido Trains. I had seen a newsletter where two of their employees were measuring and scanning a former CP CLC-built H-16-44 in a museum in the village of Mazeppa, Alberta, Canada.? I knew some of the louvers would be in different places on a CLC unit.? Beloit units are different.? ?They responded with this nice enail.? I took a screen shot of it, and attached it here.
? ? ?Jason Shron and his employees at Rapido will do a fine job, and produce a very accurate model.? I am glad I got to help in some way, and my late father-in-law would be proud.? Some of the pain was worth it.
Martin Iftody
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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