FT-857D no TX for 10 minutes
Hi there,
I have question for you, when I turn on my FT-857D (2014) it won¡¯t transmit for 10 minutes then it will work normally. Did you ever experience something like that? Any idea of what can be causing the issue?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
73 Stefano (IU?DFT)
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Re: Annoying problem on power up
Wind a coax choke at or near the antenna feed point in the car.? Mine is 8 turns on an empty plastic peanut butter jar held together by zip ties right before the rear truck lid mount.? Works great!? Some of my longest contacts have been /M with 100 watts..... today got Togo :-)
Good luck.
Cliff W3KKO
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On Sunday, March 17, 2019 Steve kb1chu <FT-857@...> wrote:
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My
FT-857 is in my truck. Kinda hard to escape the RF there.
Steve kb1chu
On 3/17/2019 8:17 AM, Jeff Steinkamp
n7yg@... [FT-857] wrote:
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That is a pretty good indication you are getting RF back
into the shack and it is getting picked up by the
programming cable
Steve kb1chu@...
[FT-857] wrote on 3/16/2019 17:41:
When I left my programming cable plugged into
the FT-857 it would deprogram and reset to 10.000MHz
when I would transmit. Steve kb1chu
?
Pete
I've seen my 857D do some silly stuff if I power up
while it's still connected to a computer that's also
turned on.? If you're doing something like that,
unplug all data, etc cables before turning it on.
Cliff W3KKO
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
On Saturday,
March 16, 2019 pete pg.nikolic1 <FT-857@...>
wrote:
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Afternoon all on this wet and windy day
here .
Right my FT857D is being a bit of a pain
right now .
I can power it up no problem at all but
that is the ONLY button that
works for at least 10 minutes but all
rotary controls work perfectly it
will Tx/Rx no problem i can change
frequency but not band then it
will suddenly start working correctly .
If i then turn it off providing i turn it
back on within a few
seconds it is fine but leave it 30 seconds
and it has to go thru the
no buttons thing again ..
Anyone got any ideas i am in the UK so the
talk to the tech
department bit is not viable .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
--
Jeff K. Steinkamp (N7YG)
Tucson, AZ
Scud Missile Coordinates
N32.2319 W110.8477
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Re: OT: was Re: Hidden menu and it's components
Thanks Malcolm,? Sadly virtually all of the tram and trolleybus lines have long ago been discontinued in the USA.? This happened when we went car crazy beginning in the late 1940s/early 1950s, and residential living spread to the suburbs obsoleting the tram and trolleybus line routes.? I miss those days though enjoy the modern convenience more.? HIHI, Phil / K4PO
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Re: Annoying problem on power up
If you need manuals, go here:
I keep all my manuals online for easy access!
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Ron W7HD - NAQCC#7587 OMISS#9898 KX3#6966 LinuxUser#415320
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Re: Annoying problem on power up
My
FT-857 is in my truck. Kinda hard to escape the RF there.
Steve kb1chu
On 3/17/2019 8:17 AM, Jeff Steinkamp
n7yg@... [FT-857] wrote:
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Show quoted text
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That is a pretty good indication you are getting RF back
into the shack and it is getting picked up by the
programming cable
Steve kb1chu@...
[FT-857] wrote on 3/16/2019 17:41:
When I left my programming cable plugged into
the FT-857 it would deprogram and reset to 10.000MHz
when I would transmit. Steve kb1chu
?
Pete
I've seen my 857D do some silly stuff if I power up
while it's still connected to a computer that's also
turned on.? If you're doing something like that,
unplug all data, etc cables before turning it on.
Cliff W3KKO
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
On Saturday,
March 16, 2019 pete pg.nikolic1 <FT-857@...>
wrote:
?
Afternoon all on this wet and windy day
here .
Right my FT857D is being a bit of a pain
right now .
I can power it up no problem at all but
that is the ONLY button that
works for at least 10 minutes but all
rotary controls work perfectly it
will Tx/Rx no problem i can change
frequency but not band then it
will suddenly start working correctly .
If i then turn it off providing i turn it
back on within a few
seconds it is fine but leave it 30 seconds
and it has to go thru the
no buttons thing again ..
Anyone got any ideas i am in the UK so the
talk to the tech
department bit is not viable .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
--
Jeff K. Steinkamp (N7YG)
Tucson, AZ
Scud Missile Coordinates
N32.2319 W110.8477
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Re: Annoying problem on power up
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 19:19:51 +0000 (UTC) "Cliff cjengle23@... [FT-857]" <FT-857@...> wrote:
Pete
I've seen my 857D do some silly stuff if I power up while it's still
connected to a computer that's also turned on.? If you're doing
something like that, unplug all data, etc cables before turning it
on. Cliff W3KKO
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
On Saturday, March 16, 2019 pete pg.nikolic1 <FT-857@...>
wrote:
Afternoon all on this wet and windy day here .
Right my FT857D is being a bit of a pain right now .
I can power it up no problem at all but that is the ONLY button that
works for at least 10 minutes but all rotary controls work perfectly
it will Tx/Rx no problem i can change frequency but not band then it
will suddenly start working correctly ..
If i then turn it off providing i turn it back on within a few
seconds it is fine but leave it 30 seconds and it has to go thru the
no buttons thing again ..
Anyone got any ideas i am in the UK so the talk to the tech
department bit is not viable .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
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Hi Cliff This lives connected to the PC but i have tried unplugging it no change , It had been working perfectly for ages then one morning in the car switched it on no buttons but all the rotary was fine . I have moved recently so where all my paperwork books for the radio have gone nuff said they wont get found until the weather warms up packed up in the Garage ( soon to be Radio Shack ) in boxes i also have no scan up and down on the mic the fast/power button works but up/down no it is part of the same problem i think the apin is the mic plugs directly into the radio that places the problem in the radio not the head . Oh well .. Thanks Pete G6NJR
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Re: Annoying problem on power up
Pete,
By your description it sounds like there is a thermal problem with a component or connection. As suggested, I would try the radio with ALL cables disconnected, except for power. If it works from a cold start, it may be some sort of interference or feedback on the cables. If it still needs to "warm up" before the knobs and buttons work, it would be the radio.?
One other thing you can try is to see if the problem happens when the control head is directly connected to the radio and/or it happens when connected through the remote cable.
I hope this helps. 73,
Eric Webner K4FAN
ex KA8FAN
On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 14:21, pete pg.nikolic1@... [FT-857] wrote:
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Afternoon all on this wet and windy day here .
Right my FT857D is being a bit of a pain right now .
I can power it up no problem at all but that is the ONLY button that
works for at least 10 minutes but all rotary controls work perfectly it
will Tx/Rx no problem i can change frequency but not band then it
will suddenly start working correctly .
If i then turn it off providing i turn it back on within a few
seconds it is fine but leave it 30 seconds and it has to go thru the
no buttons thing again ..
Anyone got any ideas i am in the UK so the talk to the tech
department bit is not viable .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
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Re: Annoying problem on power up
That is a pretty good
indication you are getting RF back into the shack and it is getting
picked up by the programming cable
Steve kb1chu@... [FT-857] wrote on 3/16/2019 17:41:
When I
left my programming cable plugged into the FT-857 it would
deprogram and reset to 10.000MHz when I would transmit. Steve
kb1chu
?
Pete
I've seen my 857D do some silly stuff if I power up while
it's still connected to a computer that's also turned on.?
If you're doing something like that, unplug all data, etc
cables before turning it on.
Cliff W3KKO
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
On Saturday, March
16, 2019 pete pg.nikolic1 <FT-857@...>
wrote:
?
Afternoon all on this wet and windy day here .
Right my FT857D is being a bit of a pain right
now .
I can power it up no problem at all but that is
the ONLY button that
works for at least 10 minutes but all rotary
controls work perfectly it
will Tx/Rx no problem i can change frequency but
not band then it
will suddenly start working correctly .
If i then turn it off providing i turn it back
on within a few
seconds it is fine but leave it 30 seconds and
it has to go thru the
no buttons thing again ..
Anyone got any ideas i am in the UK so the talk
to the tech
department bit is not viable .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
--
Jeff K. Steinkamp (N7YG)
Tucson, AZ
Scud Missile Coordinates
N32.2319 W110.8477
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Re: Annoying problem on power up
When I
left my programming cable plugged into the FT-857 it would
deprogram and reset to 10.000MHz when I would transmit. Steve
kb1chu
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Show quoted text
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Pete
I've seen my 857D do some silly stuff if I power up while
it's still connected to a computer that's also turned on.?
If you're doing something like that, unplug all data, etc
cables before turning it on.
Cliff W3KKO
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
On Saturday, March
16, 2019 pete pg.nikolic1 <FT-857@...>
wrote:
?
Afternoon all on this wet and windy day here .
Right my FT857D is being a bit of a pain right
now .
I can power it up no problem at all but that is
the ONLY button that
works for at least 10 minutes but all rotary
controls work perfectly it
will Tx/Rx no problem i can change frequency but
not band then it
will suddenly start working correctly .
If i then turn it off providing i turn it back
on within a few
seconds it is fine but leave it 30 seconds and
it has to go thru the
no buttons thing again ..
Anyone got any ideas i am in the UK so the talk
to the tech
department bit is not viable .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
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Re: OT: was Re: Hidden menu and it's components
Hi Trams run on rails, trolleybuses run on tyres.? Trams pick up the power from the rail and an overhead wire, trolleybuses have a pair of overhead pick wires. 73 Malcolm ZL2UDF ?
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From: FT-857@... [mailto:FT-857@...]
Sent: Saturday, 16 March 2019 11:36 p.m.
To: FT-857@...
Subject: [FT-857] OT: was Re: Hidden menu and it's components? ? Can you please explain to me what is the difference between a TRAM and a TROLLEYBUS please? Sorry for the OT post. WIlll get back to my FT-857 now. (mostly for 2m, 70 cm FM of late.) Also, may we have your name and callsign (if any) please?
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Re: Interface to FT-857D Control head
Take a look at this ...
I've been working with it a it but? \this is my forst forray with this kind of programming.
I'm going to use this controller -
because it already has two hardware optical shaaft encoder inputs. Seems the perfect controller, with a nice programmable LCD.
I'm doing this because I have the dreaded bad lines in my display ...
Please ping me if you make any progress!!! Tracy N4LGH
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Re: Interface to FT-857D Control head
I ran about 15ft of CAT 5 or maybe 6 the same way with no discernable loss of latency and no issues
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On Saturday, March 16, 2019 haburton <FT-857@...> wrote:
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Does anyone know where I might be able to find the protocol between the radio and the control head of my Yaesu FT-857D? I need to do a frequency display and a few other things while the radio is remoted in the trunk. I don't want to run that much extra wire to use data from the CAT port.
Harley Burton N5BFB
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Re: Annoying problem on power up
Pete
I've seen my 857D do some silly stuff if I power up while it's still connected to a computer that's also turned on.? If you're doing something like that, unplug all data, etc cables before turning it on.
Cliff W3KKO
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
On Saturday, March 16, 2019 pete pg.nikolic1 <FT-857@...> wrote:
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Afternoon all on this wet and windy day here .
Right my FT857D is being a bit of a pain right now .
I can power it up no problem at all but that is the ONLY button that
works for at least 10 minutes but all rotary controls work perfectly it
will Tx/Rx no problem i can change frequency but not band then it
will suddenly start working correctly .
If i then turn it off providing i turn it back on within a few
seconds it is fine but leave it 30 seconds and it has to go thru the
no buttons thing again ..
Anyone got any ideas i am in the UK so the talk to the tech
department bit is not viable .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
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Annoying problem on power up
Afternoon all on this wet and windy day here .
Right my FT857D is being a bit of a pain right now .
I can power it up no problem at all but that is the ONLY button that
works for at least 10 minutes but all rotary controls work perfectly it
will Tx/Rx no problem i can change frequency but not band then it
will suddenly start working correctly .
If i then turn it off providing i turn it back on within a few
seconds it is fine but leave it 30 seconds and it has to go thru the
no buttons thing again ..
Anyone got any ideas i am in the UK so the talk to the tech
department bit is not viable .
Thanks Pete G6NJR
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OT: was Re: Hidden menu and it's components
Can you please explain to me what is the difference between a TRAM and a TROLLEYBUS please? Sorry for the OT post. WIlll get back to my FT-857 now.
(mostly for 2m, 70 cm FM of late.)
Also, may we have your name and callsign (if any) please?
BRY AF4K 54321
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Interface to FT-857D Control head
Does anyone know where I might be able to find the protocol between the radio and the control head of my Yaesu FT-857D? I need to do a frequency display and a few other things while the radio is remoted in the trunk. I don't want to run that much extra wire to use data from the CAT port.
Harley Burton N5BFB
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Re: Hidden menu and it's components
No, I haven't tried a loop Pete. I have two antennas on the roof, one end fed 26,5 m long and one vertical with 8 meters mast, which is not complete yet, but I suppose that it will bring more noise than the end fed wire.
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Re: Hidden menu and it's components
Hi Bod,
The name is Michael and the country Greece.
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Re: Hidden menu and it's components
have you tried a full wave? loop antenna? or? a? small loop?
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From: FT-857@... on behalf of mariussw@... [FT-857]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:07 AM
To: FT-857@...
Subject: RE: [FT-857] Hidden menu and it's components
?
?
In my area I have a problem with noise from neighborhood electric fences sparking over, that annoyingly upsets the AGC level if I have it on.
I only recently learned from reading documentation on other rigs, that best practice is to use NB to deal with this. Logical once you realize it, but may not be quite that obvious.
In recent months constantly experiencing very high noise levels (to the extent of finding it difficult to even receive commercial transmissions), I eventually decided replace the filters. Noise experience deteriorated quite rapidly over time since I started
to notice it.. (Having eliminated other sources).
Also from various bits and pieces I have read, the IPO provides more value regarding noise on lower frequency bands.
Marius ZR6P
From: FT-857@...
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 11:22 PM
To: FT-857@...
Subject: RE: [FT-857] Hidden menu and it's components
Where can I buy a 65 inch TV for $99?
Tom K3TVC
From: FT-857@... [mailto:FT-857@...]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 17:09
To: FT-857@...
Subject: RE: [FT-857] Hidden menu and it's components
I was thinking the same thing as yours and Mike's reply. My 857D is in the car and works beautifully. In the house it didn't do too well.. I live in a townhouse, and the close neighbors and cheap electronics has reeked havoc on the 857D as well as my 897D,
which has been the home rig for the last 10+ years. I use AC line filters, 1:1 current baluns on the antennas, the attenuator knob, IPO, and the RF gain to work through the noise and make contacts.
When I first got this rig, I thought it was bad from the factory because of the constant 20+ dB noise. Then I took it to a field and connected it to an inverted V out in the middle of nowhere for field day. The rig was perfectly quiet and signals were booming
in. I worked many stations and had a blast. When I got home, the excitement was lost with 15-20 dB noise level.
I have knocked the noise down with the things mentioned above, but when the neighbor turns on her $99.00 65" LCD TV, the noise returns. This is not the radio, but external factors.
73,
--Hank
KB4MTO / TA5ZC
https://www.hamradio.hanklambert.com
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FT-857@...
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Cc:
Sent:
Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:09:11 -0400
Subject:
RE: [FT-857] Hidden menu and it's components
Preferably advice from someone who understands receiver circuitry or at least basic RF principles¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡you don¡¯t have a sensitivity problem, you¡¯ve got one or more sources of RFI you need to locate.
Lee KX4TT
From: FT-857@... [ mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, 11 March, 2019 16:02
To: FT-857@...
Subject: Re: [FT-857] Hidden menu and it's components
If someone is telling you the 857 is too sensitive to use with a 'base'
antenna, beware because they are definitely blowing smoke somewhere that
you really don't need smoke !! I would consider looking for advice from
another source.
Mike / W8DN
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Re: Hidden menu and it's components
What country are you in? A name, callsign and location would be nice....?
Regards,?
Bob? G8IYK
On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 3:21, sternface@... [FT-857] wrote:
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Thank you all for the advice for this matter. Truth is that I already have done what you suggest. Turned off the electricity from the mains, and run my rig on battery. Nothing changes. The source is not in my house and my other rig (Kenwood TS-140S) has the same reception as the 857.?
I suppose that all this QRM, or QRN has to do with two main sources. One is the tram, which runs about 200 meters form my home and the other is the trolley bus which runs 300 m at he opposite side!
So I think that maybe I should try a QRM Eliminator, something like MFJ's 1026. I am looking for a device to make the test before I buy it of course.
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