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Re: Need help

 

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Are you using the same inline fuses in each scenario? Many users have reported issues with the fuse holders.?

Tom k3tvc


On Apr 27, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Carl Moon via groups.io <carl.moon@...> wrote:

?I have had an 857D for quite a while which i have used mobile. At some point, I noticed some erratic behavior like screen flashing and someone reported my signal had a chirp and wasn't frequency stable.

So, I adjusted the menu so I could see the voltage reported by the radio. In RX, it looked ok; something like 13.5 or so. But when I keyed down in CW at 100 watts, the voltage reported by the radio display went down to 10.8. I tried making the wires feeding the radio larger, etc. with no change. I also tried it indoors on an Astron RS-50M power supply and note the same huge voltage drop. Power output is about 80 watts. Any ideas of what I should check? This couldn't be normal??
Carl


Re: Need help

 

Check the fuses in the fuse holders
?Also use a volt meter to check the voltage at the power supply when idle and under load. Double check all connections. Yaesu also has Tech Support in Ca. Not sure of there hours with the virus. Good luck.


On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 5:20 PM, Carl Moon via groups.io
<carl.moon@...> wrote:
I have had an 857D for quite a while which i have used mobile. At some point, I noticed some erratic behavior like screen flashing and someone reported my signal had a chirp and wasn't frequency stable.

So, I adjusted the menu so I could see the voltage reported by the radio. In RX, it looked ok; something like 13.5 or so. But when I keyed down in CW at 100 watts, the voltage reported by the radio display went down to 10.8. I tried making the wires feeding the radio larger, etc. with no change. I also tried it indoors on an Astron RS-50M power supply and note the same huge voltage drop. Power output is about 80 watts. Any ideas of what I should check? This couldn't be normal??
Carl


Need help

Carl Moon
 

I have had an 857D for quite a while which i have used mobile. At some point, I noticed some erratic behavior like screen flashing and someone reported my signal had a chirp and wasn't frequency stable.

So, I adjusted the menu so I could see the voltage reported by the radio. In RX, it looked ok; something like 13.5 or so. But when I keyed down in CW at 100 watts, the voltage reported by the radio display went down to 10.8. I tried making the wires feeding the radio larger, etc. with no change. I also tried it indoors on an Astron RS-50M power supply and note the same huge voltage drop. Power output is about 80 watts. Any ideas of what I should check? This couldn't be normal??
Carl


Re: problem with pkt mode in 9600 baud

 

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Hello Miguel,

I have? one isolated interface. The rig works ok in DIG modes and in PKT modes with menu 73 ( pkt rate )? set to 1200 mode.


Ok... got it but a question for you.. when you say "isolated" interface.. is it something like an EasyDigi or Signalink?? If so, you're going to have deep problems trying 9600bps packet as most solutions use transformers that don't offer a wide enough signal on.


But if i change the menu 71 to 9600, the rig don't output any modulation, only carrier outputs. I try a test tone in the computer and with a one handy in the same frequency in FM. and I don't have tone, only carrier.


Two things here:? Once you change your radio to be "9600", you do realize it's now listening on the OTHER input pin on the 6pin DATA connector right??? This means you WILL need a different data cable going to your TNC, soundcard, etc.? Also note that unlike simple audio or Audio Frequency Shift Keying (AFSK) approach used in 1200bps packet, 9600bps uses audio to then trigger the radio to send the bits in a Frequency Shift Keying (FSK) approach.? FSK will sound like tightly packet hiss to a regular human ear:

?? #Listen to the very bottom one
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I try in packet ax25 to stablish link in 1k2 , and it works without problem. I try to link at 9k6 ( commuting the audio rx output between 1k2 to 9k6 out pins off the rig, and the computer receive the packets, try to answer , but don't works.

What kind of problem I can have?


I think there be four issues:

?? - you're using the wrong pin on the 6pin DATA connector

?? - the isolation transformers are hurting your signal

?? - I don't think the FT857's "9600bps" support is sufficient (most radio's 9600bps support isn't btw).? Negative reports:
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????? - etc

?? - G3RUH 9600bps packet requires near perfect / full quieting signals with almost zero interference to work.? This usually means the other station must be very close, running higher power, and are using directional antennas.? When it works, it's amazingly fast but it's hard to get working.? Instead, consider running something slower like 3600bps or 4800bps packet using Direwolf or UZ7HO soundmodem.? Those modes are far more tolerant of radios and paths but .. yes, they are 50% slower.

--David
KI6ZHD


problem with pkt mode in 9600 baud

 

Hi everyone in the group.

I have a problem with my 857d rig.
I have? one isolated interface. The rig works ok in DIG modes and in PKT modes with menu 73 ( pkt rate )? set to 1200 mode.

But if i change the menu 71 to 9600, the rig don't output any modulation, only carrier outputs. I try a test tone in the computer and with a one handy in the same frequency in FM. and I don't have tone, only carrier.

I try to put the volume of the pc to the max. and the? menu pkt 072 ( 9600 tx gain ) at max ( 100 ). and i can hear the tone in the handy , putting the volume at max. , but at very very low level.
If I set the menu again at 1200 bauds, I can hear the tone at normal level.


I try in packet ax25 to stablish link in 1k2 , and it works without problem. I try to link at 9k6 ( commuting the audio rx output between 1k2 to 9k6 out pins off the rig, and the computer receive the packets, try to answer , but don't works.

What kind of problem I can have?


thanks & 73s


YF-122S SSB Filter - New Design?

Mike Parker
 
Edited

Here's a weird thing. So about a year ago when I was buying my umpteenth FT-857D I noticed the SSB filter picture on ML&S's site had changed:



I emailed them to say had they mistakenly grabbed a stock image or something or has Yaesu changed the design. Martin emailed and said they only supply official Yaesu parts and this was a design change, presumably because of Collins ceasing production of their mechanical filters. The CW and CW-N seem to still be of the Collins type. Other sites USA/UK I have checked seemed to have the old picture, either becase they have old stock or they haven't checked inside the box to see the change, or didn't care!

Anyway, if you read the spec on the ML&S website, it still shows the same specification as the original Collins one, namely "10-pole Collins SSB Filter (2.3kHz/4.7kHz: -6db/-66db) for FT-817, FT-857 and FT-897." But I cannot see how it can be a Collins filter, it just looks too small for the SSB variant and if its not Collins, surely the spec can't be identical?

It looks to me, more like a MuRata ceramic type, like the built-in one but mounted on a board like the 3rd party ones you can get nowadays e.g.



Any ideas? I suppose I could email Yaesu/Yaesu UK, but I am not too bothered, Haydon Communications had stock of the Collins one so I purchased that. Just curios.

73

Mike
M0SAZ


Re: FT-857D Discontinued By Yaesu - Was a Great Run

Mike Parker
 

I was buying the parts in stages to cheaply get back on the air after having a 6-ish month break (I often buy new Yaesu rigs and sell them to fund another - but had a gap in the cycle). I must have owned at least 6, closer to 10 FT-857D radios since being licenced in 2008. I had a new YF-122C and YF-122S and had just ordered the TXCO-9 when I saw this thread. I went to ML&S and they had on the FT-857D product page they had just got their last batch ever from the factory, so I had to accellerate my timetable and manged to get one! So I am lucky to have one of the last ones of the production line and as this radio will certainly go down in history as a classic, I will never sell it.

Mike
M0SAZ


Re: Saying Hello

 

I saw the same introduction into several other groups with different email addresses. Spam Bot......

On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 06:39:54 PM EDT, Peter Krarup <biblioteker@...> wrote:


If your email is ¡°Internationals LLC¡±, what is your ham license designation, location, personal name, etc?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of internationalscllc@...
Sent: Wednesday, 22 April, 2020 11:51
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FT-857] Saying Hello

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Hi everyone.?
I am new to the group and I hope everyone is staying safe.


Re: Saying Hello

Peter Krarup
 

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If your email is ¡°Internationals LLC¡±, what is your ham license designation, location, personal name, etc?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of internationalscllc@...
Sent: Wednesday, 22 April, 2020 11:51
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FT-857] Saying Hello

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Hi everyone.?
I am new to the group and I hope everyone is staying safe.


Saying Hello

 

Hi everyone.?
I am new to the group and I hope everyone is staying safe.


For sale FT-857D & tuner

aart wedemeijer
 

For sale in Holland (Europe)

FT-857D with tuner FC-30 and Microkeyer cable DB37-FT-mini8. Prepared for all-band (including 60M).

€ 650 + shipping

Direct contact pa3c@...?? +31 6 547 00 445

Aart PA3C


FT-857 for sale

Tom Ponte
 

I have an FT-857 for sale. This belonged to W4MUZ, who is no longer operating. There are some lines in the display, but otherwise works. Asking $450.00


--
Tom Ponte, WB1CZX


Re: FT-857D sale

Gerald Kopstein
 

Hi Josh and all.....sorry but sold the 857.....forgot to advise group....


Jerry n9ac



On Monday, April 20, 2020, 12:11:52 AM EDT, Josh Gluck <joshgluck@...> wrote:


Hi Jerry

Still available? ?I¡¯d be interested.?


Josh KC2TKK?


Re: FT-857D sale

 

Hi Jerry

Still available? ?I¡¯d be interested.?


Josh KC2TKK?


Re: Delayed RX after TX

 

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Thank you Arman for coming back with solution, something to keep in mind (or somewhere on the computer).

73 de Thierry

Le 13/04/2020 ¨¤ 10:16, ek1et.radio@... a ¨¦crit?:

Hello everyone,

Just for information to all that have the problem. I have found the source of the problem. It is a faulty relay in a power amplified board. In my case the relay was the one that switches RX from GND to antenna for 20m band.

Re-soldering the relay contacts did not help and when listen to the noise and kick the relay, the noise become attenuated and come back within a minute or less. It looks like that there are some internal contact issue in this relay.?

Just ordered from Conrad SY-12W-K relays? to replace them. Also found same problem on 15m band but this relay is working more stable, showing the same issue not always. Any case will change it also.?

Arman, EK1ET

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Thierry, F-14314, JN38JK, Delta Loop Antenna ~83m


Re: Delayed RX after TX

 

Hello everyone,

Just for information to all that have the problem. I have found the source of the problem. It is a faulty relay in a power amplified board. In my case the relay was the one that switches RX from GND to antenna for 20m band.

Re-soldering the relay contacts did not help and when listen to the noise and kick the relay, the noise become attenuated and come back within a minute or less. It looks like that there are some internal contact issue in this relay.?

Just ordered from Conrad SY-12W-K relays? to replace them. Also found same problem on 15m band but this relay is working more stable, showing the same issue not always. Any case will change it also.?

Arman, EK1ET

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Re: Connected Programmer Cable impairs CTCSS Tone Encode Feature

 

This is a know problem with the 857 and RT Systems programming cable.
It is mentioned on the RT Systems website in the knowledge base. See below.

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CTCSS or PL Tones do not transmit

Last Updated: 09/06/2013
CTCSS or PL?Tones do not transmit

This will happen if the cable is left connected to the radio and is NOT connected to the computer (it sets up a ground loop that causes this problem).

Solution, disconnect the cable from the radio when it's not in use. ?

Note: ?If using control software that requires the cable to be connected to the radio AND the computer, this is not a problem and everything works properly. ?

Knowledge Base:?? ?


Ken


Re: Delayed RX after TX

 

Hi Peter,

This is not the case. I have removed all possible RFI from mic by using caps soldered to ground.?Also transmitting with 5w only also causing the issue.? In my case transmitter stops transmitting normally. The issue is with receiver, that does lowering the gain on transmit and restoring the gain to previous stage with delay when transmit stooped.


Thanks,
Arman


Re: FT-857D Discontinued By Yaesu - Was a Great Run

 

Wish I knew that I could have ordered another 857 control head !? ?I? DID have to open it up and sort of cokes (sp?) the LCD into working better...

That said, I have two of the 857Ds so I'm OK for now.

Bought a place near Phoenix, AZ so I bought an 891 for that house.? HRO there said that Yaesu did not put VHF/UHF into the
radio because hams would rather have a separate radio for that and can monitor the two areas of spectrum at the same time that way.

The little I have played with the 891,? I think I really like it though.

boB? K7IQ


Re: Delayed RX after TX

 

I had a similar issue and, as noted previously by other group members, it was caused by RFI in the mic holding transmit open. Here are notes from my maintenance log:

    • On 10M FM above 35 or 40W (and possibly other bands and modes), the transmitter will not stop transmitting for several seconds or longer after the mic button is released.?Resolved. This is caused by faulty MH-59 mic design. Problem could not be reproduced with original MH-31 mic.?Modified mic by jumpering over ground pin inductor per instructions found googling. This resolved issue. Also made some transmit audio improvements to mic as found on Internet.

Peter