Re: vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
The tones used in the US, and probably universally, to open the
squelch on repeaters are sub-audible PL tones. Those are never heard
over the air since they're sent for the duration of the transmission
and it would be quite annoying. Roger Beeps can be traced back to
the CB craze and even back to a particular radio. The Browning
Golden Eagle "pinged" and the beginning of each transmission. It was
Browning's way to let everyone know that their radios were special,
and a way for the consumer to brag about his high dollar CB every
time he keyed the microphone. Soon, people were finding mechanical
ways to reproduce the ping. One was to put a piece of metal in the
mic that made a noise when the mic was keyed. Next, manufacturers
started building microphones with electronic pings. Then, sound
effects were added such as echo chambers, animal sounds, and a host
of other things that made CB the useless waste of spectrum that it
is today. Let's keep the ham airwaves clean, understandable, and
professional. Leave the roger beeps and funny noises on the
Children's Band where they originated.
Randy (KE5EOT)
ARRL, QCWA, ARES, RACES, ROWH
On 12/12/18 7:38 AM, Russell
Stringfield rs12240@... [FT-857] wrote:
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In Europe, I believe, it takes a tone to open the
repeater. Same thing that we hear when NASA talks to the
ISS, etc.
Russ
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From: Jk mwblacksmith@... [FT-857]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FT-857] vk1od Roger Beep installation into
FT857d
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On local VHF nets it is common to start a transmission
with “This is” and un-key and listen for someone
transmitting. Then key again and transmit message.?
I makes me wonder if a start of transmission ?blip
“courtesy tone” would could replace the “This is” to
reduce doubled up transmissions.?
Im fine with nothing and un-keying mike to listen for
double ups. . ?
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On Dec 11, 2018, at 8:47 PM, n4mf_sc@... [FT-857]
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There in lies the truth, VK's (Australia) has their own
Radio Frequency Control Authority that only governs them..
The FCC has 0 (zero) influence there, Same goes for the
UK... Just cause it don't fly here doesn't mean it doesn't
fly elsewhere...
Mitch
N4MF
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Re: vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
NASA actually uses QUINDAR tones for in-band signalling.
And they are only transmitted by ground control.
The first tone (2525 Hz) turns on the remote transmitters.
The second tone (2475 Hz) turns off the remote transmitters.
These tones are 250 ms of pure sine waves and being so close together can be notched out with a single filter.
73 - Bill KA8VIT
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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:38 AM
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Subject: RE: [FT-857] vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
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In Europe, I believe, it takes a tone to open the repeater.? Same thing that we hear when NASA talks to the ISS, etc.
Russ
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Re: vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
In Europe, I believe, it takes a tone to open the repeater. Same thing that we hear when NASA talks to the ISS, etc.
Russ
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From: Jk mwblacksmith@... [FT-857]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FT-857] vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
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On local VHF nets it is common to start a transmission with “This is” and un-key and listen for someone transmitting. Then key again and transmit message.?
I makes me wonder if a start of transmission ?blip “courtesy tone” would could replace the “This is” to reduce doubled up transmissions.?
Im fine with nothing and un-keying mike to listen for double ups. .
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On Dec 11, 2018, at 8:47 PM, n4mf_sc@... [FT-857] <FT-857@...> wrote:
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There in lies the truth, VK's (Australia) has their own Radio Frequency Control Authority that only governs them.. The FCC has 0 (zero) influence there, Same goes for the UK... Just cause it don't fly here doesn't mean it doesn't fly elsewhere...
Mitch
N4MF
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Re: vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
I'm not suggesting that something bad will happen, but I did the same thing with a Uniden 2510 10 meter radio in my company truck. I could turn the beep on and off. I got a lot of complaints when using it. Give it a try and see how it plays. Good Luck
K3CLT
Chuck Tobias
On Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 2:44:30 PM EST, Mike Rhodes weightdn@... [FT-857] wrote:
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+1 on Chuck's comment. I have visions of someone tarred and feathered
while being rode out of town on a rail. The Wouff Hong would probably
enter into the picture somewhere along the way. Please reconsider.
Mike / W8DN
On 12/11/2018 6:05 AM, chuck tobias cltoby600@... [FT-857] wrote:
> I guess I would have to ask why you would want that. It goes back to
> the old CB trucker radio days. Not something heard on Ham Radio.
>
> K3CLT
> Chuck Tobias
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> On Monday, December 10, 2018, 11:59:30 PM EST, vk3sq@...
> [FT-857] wrote:
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> Help needed.
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> Has anyone installed the vk1od roger beep design into their FT857d. I
> am wanting to install this into mine but need how too instructions of
> how to do it.
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> Any advice appreciated.
>
> 73 de Geoff vk3sq
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>
>
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Re: vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
>From: "vk3sq@... [FT-857]"
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>Has anyone installed the vk1od roger beep design into their FT857d.
>Any advice appreciated.
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As another Australian VK3 my very, very strong advice is...
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DON'T DO IT!
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James
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Re: vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
On local VHF nets it is common to start a transmission with “This is” and un-key and listen for someone transmitting. Then key again and transmit message.? I makes me wonder if a start of transmission ?blip “courtesy tone” would could replace the “This is” to reduce doubled up transmissions.? Im fine with nothing and un-keying mike to listen for double ups. . ? ?
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There in lies the truth, VK's (Australia) has their own Radio Frequency Control Authority that only governs them. The FCC has 0 (zero) influence there, Same goes for the UK... Just cause it don't fly here doesn't mean it doesn't fly elsewhere...
Mitch N4MF
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Re: vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
There in lies the truth, VK's (Australia) has their own Radio Frequency Control Authority that only governs them. The FCC has 0 (zero) influence there, Same goes for the UK... Just cause it don't fly here doesn't mean it doesn't fly elsewhere...
Mitch N4MF
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Re: vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
PLEASE don’t do that! You would become a laughing stock and find that the number of hams that talk to you would diminish rapidly! Not to mention being made fun of and laughed at!!! ? ?
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From: FT-857@... [mailto:FT-857@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 2:40 PM
To: FT-857@...
Subject: Re: [FT-857] vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d? ? +1 on Chuck's comment. I have visions of someone tarred and feathered
while being rode out of town on a rail. The Wouff Hong would probably
enter into the picture somewhere along the way. Please reconsider.
Mike / W8DN
On 12/11/2018 6:05 AM, chuck tobias cltoby600@... [FT-857] wrote:
> I guess I would have to ask why you would want that. It goes back to
> the old CB trucker radio days. Not something heard on Ham Radio.
>
> K3CLT
> Chuck Tobias
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>
> On Monday, December 10, 2018, 11:59:30 PM EST, vk3sq@...
> [FT-857] wrote:
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> Help needed.
>
> Has anyone installed the vk1od roger beep design into their FT857d. I
> am wanting to install this into mine but need how too instructions of
> how to do it.
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> Any advice appreciated.
>
> 73 de Geoff vk3sq
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Re: vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
Maybe that is how things are done in VK Land. Probably not on HF, but maybe they like a little beep at the end of their transmission.... BEEP? Steve KA9MOT "One man with courage makes a majority." ~? Andrew Jackson
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+1 on Chuck's comment. I have visions of someone tarred and feathered
while being rode out of town on a rail. The Wouff Hong would probably
enter into the picture somewhere along the way. Please reconsider.
Mike / W8DN
On 12/11/2018 6:05 AM, chuck tobias cltoby600@... [FT-857] wrote:
> I guess I would have to ask why you would want that. It goes back to
> the old CB trucker radio days. Not something heard on Ham Radio.
>
> K3CLT
> Chuck Tobias
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>
> On Monday, December 10, 2018, 11:59:30 PM EST, vk3sq@...
> [FT-857] <FT-857@...> wrote:
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> Help needed.
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> Has anyone installed the vk1od roger beep design into their FT857d. I
> am wanting to install this into mine but need how too instructions of
> how to do it.
>
> Any advice appreciated.
>
> 73 de Geoff vk3sq
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>
>
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Re: vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
+1 on Chuck's comment. I have visions of someone tarred and feathered while being rode out of town on a rail. The Wouff Hong would probably enter into the picture somewhere along the way. Please reconsider.
Mike / W8DN
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On 12/11/2018 6:05 AM, chuck tobias cltoby600@... [FT-857] wrote: I guess I would have to ask why you would want that. It goes back to the old CB trucker radio days. Not something heard on Ham Radio.
K3CLT
Chuck Tobias
On Monday, December 10, 2018, 11:59:30 PM EST, vk3sq@... [FT-857] <FT-857@...> wrote:
Help needed.
Has anyone installed the vk1od roger beep design into their FT857d. I am wanting to install this into mine but need how too instructions of how to do it.
Any advice appreciated.
73 de Geoff vk3sq
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Re: vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
I guess I would have to ask why you would want that. It goes back to the old CB trucker radio days. Not something heard on Ham Radio.
K3CLT
Chuck Tobias
On Monday, December 10, 2018, 11:59:30 PM EST, vk3sq@... [FT-857] wrote:
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Help needed.
Has anyone installed the vk1od roger beep design into their FT857d. I am wanting to install this into mine but need how too instructions of how to do it.
Any advice appreciated.
73 de Geoff vk3sq
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vk1od Roger Beep installation into FT857d
Help needed. Has anyone installed the vk1od roger beep design into their FT857d. I am wanting to install this into mine but need how too instructions of how to do it. Any advice appreciated. 73 de Geoff vk3sq
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There were some posts years ago about a contact on the antenna being intermittent. I think you can call Yaesu in Ca. and they have free tech support. They will walk you through trouble shooting the problem.
K3CLT
Chuck Tobias
On Thursday, December 6, 2018, 6:52:09 PM EST, Russ Filling redman276@... [FT-857] wrote:
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Brad, radio was also tested on manual tuned ATAS25 and showed no SWR or PO on 20m only, but does receive on all bands. I will? convey to him on seeking an external watt meter to verify PO. Thankyou? for your offering of advice sir.
Russ N3TIH
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Check his ground to the chassis of the vehicle. also check with a
watt meter online to see if it the radio or not.
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Good morning all,?
? ? I have a fellow ham buddy on a long
trip that has a newer 857D with an ATAS120 mounted in
his van,? the setup worked well for several days, but
one afternoon he told me his ATAS120 quit tuning on
20m.? All other bands verify 40m up to UHF. ( he runs
the diplexer for 2 & 70cm.)? His specifics are he
can hear stations on 20m but cannot tx or tune the
ATAS120. Everything else works as it should.? He is in
cold weather land as well.
I suspect a cold solder joint somewhere in
the band pass section, maybe even at the relay or the
relay its self.? He doesn't have stored frequencies so
initializing relay cleaning ( pwr + band up + band down
) did not resolve the problem.
Any thoughts, comments, ideas welcomed at
this point.
Russ N3TIH
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Brad, radio was also tested on manual tuned ATAS25 and showed no SWR or PO on 20m only, but does receive on all bands. I will? convey to him on seeking an external watt meter to verify PO. Thankyou? for your offering of advice sir.
Russ N3TIH
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Check his ground to the chassis of the vehicle. also check with a
watt meter online to see if it the radio or not.
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Good morning all,?
? ? I have a fellow ham buddy on a long
trip that has a newer 857D with an ATAS120 mounted in
his van,? the setup worked well for several days, but
one afternoon he told me his ATAS120 quit tuning on
20m.? All other bands verify 40m up to UHF. ( he runs
the diplexer for 2 & 70cm.)? His specifics are he
can hear stations on 20m but cannot tx or tune the
ATAS120. Everything else works as it should.? He is in
cold weather land as well.
I suspect a cold solder joint somewhere in
the band pass section, maybe even at the relay or the
relay its self.? He doesn't have stored frequencies so
initializing relay cleaning ( pwr + band up + band down
) did not resolve the problem.
Any thoughts, comments, ideas welcomed at
this point.
Russ N3TIH
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Check his ground to the chassis of the vehicle. also check with a
watt meter online to see if it the radio or not.
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Good morning all,?
? ? I have a fellow ham buddy on a long
trip that has a newer 857D with an ATAS120 mounted in
his van,? the setup worked well for several days, but
one afternoon he told me his ATAS120 quit tuning on
20m.? All other bands verify 40m up to UHF. ( he runs
the diplexer for 2 & 70cm.)? His specifics are he
can hear stations on 20m but cannot tx or tune the
ATAS120. Everything else works as it should.? He is in
cold weather land as well.
I suspect a cold solder joint somewhere in
the band pass section, maybe even at the relay or the
relay its self.? He doesn't have stored frequencies so
initializing relay cleaning ( pwr + band up + band down
) did not resolve the problem.
Any thoughts, comments, ideas welcomed at
this point.
Russ N3TIH
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Good morning all,?
? ? I have a fellow ham buddy on a long trip that has a newer 857D with an ATAS120 mounted in his van,? the setup worked well for several days, but one afternoon he told me his ATAS120 quit tuning on 20m.? All other bands verify 40m up to UHF. ( he runs the diplexer for 2 & 70cm.)? His specifics are he can hear stations on 20m but cannot tx or tune the ATAS120. Everything else works as it should.? He is in cold weather land as well.
I suspect a cold solder joint somewhere in the band pass section, maybe even at the relay or the relay its self.? He doesn't have stored frequencies so initializing relay cleaning ( pwr + band up + band down ) did not resolve the problem.
Any thoughts, comments, ideas welcomed at this point.
Russ N3TIH
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Re: Ft 857D with Ham Radio Deluxe
Yes, I didn't have a problem with the free version.? With commonly used buttons available, the FT 857d is a pretty easy to operate rig using HRD.? I find that I switch screens on the radio frequently to do the VFO A/B, A=B, SPLIT, 2.3 K filter, 500 hz filter, AGC on/off, power level, ATT, NB, and modes.? That's a pain directly on the radio, but quite easy with laptop buttons.
I'm not sure why it would damage the radio any more using CAT software vs making the change with an on-radio screen selection.
Wayne W5GIE
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Thanks for telling me Paul. Glad to be of help.
For what it’s worth I keep the main unit in the back as well but I can unplug it and take it into the warm to do any programming. All you really need is a cable to connect front and back when its in the house and a 12 volt feed.
Also may be worth taking an image from the radio on your computer. Good safety precaution. I acquired a second hand one a few months after buying the new one. It was a very good deal and the unit was previously owned by a CB operator and not working properly. I got it going by cleaning up the dry joints that were caused when he tried to wide band it then doing a full factory re-set and finally cloning it from the new one.
Worked well!!
Anyway enjoy it. I use one of mine nearly every day. Use it with an ATAS 120A
73 Nick (GW6EWX)
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Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:40 PM
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Hi Nick
Well, that fixed it. When starting out with a radio like this with many menus, I am not surprised that I selected that feature by accident...
That saved me a reset and reload of all the frequencies that I have stored. Not a big deal but here in the Midwest the temps are beginning to fall and we are due for a snow storm this weekend.
As this is a mobile rig and it is neatly tucked in the back of my SUV I would have to open the tailgate and stand outside while reprogramming running back and forth from the control head up front and the radio in the rear where the laptop would be.
Thanks again
paul
W9PCS
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Re: Ft 857D with Ham Radio Deluxe
I run the last free version with my 857D and never had the
problems that you are talking about.? maybe older radios but the
problem was fixed on the last free version that was released.
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If I remember correctly the older post on this,the free
version did things that will harm the memory locations.
Yaesu used a type of chip that can only be written to a
certain number of times then becomes useless. All of the
newer versions do not include commands that need to be
written to those chips on the 857 and 897 radios. So
whatever the new version does is not supposed to harm the
radios.?
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